Quote from: NWH on April 14, 2020, 11:11:48 am10000 people die of Flu each year they were saying blimey never knew that it was that many.Don't get hung up on numbers NWH, just like with corona many of those flu victims would have died anyway.
10000 people die of Flu each year they were saying blimey never knew that it was that many.
Quote from: deeege on April 14, 2020, 11:53:33 amIt’s sad that the forum now seems to allow personal insults and name calling in every virus related thread.I’ve had a weekend away from the forum and internet as a whole, it helps to step away for awhile and I think some on here should probably do the same.Unfortunately deeege there isn't a nice way to tell somebody they're being stupid, childish or hysterical, this is an emotive topic and if that's the height of the rudeness then I don't think you have anything to complain about.
It’s sad that the forum now seems to allow personal insults and name calling in every virus related thread.I’ve had a weekend away from the forum and internet as a whole, it helps to step away for awhile and I think some on here should probably do the same.
Quote from: Dry Clean on April 14, 2020, 11:50:06 amQuote from: G Griffin on April 14, 2020, 10:44:25 amQuote from: Dry Clean on April 14, 2020, 09:05:37 amQuote from: G Griffin on April 14, 2020, 12:05:43 amQuote from: Dry Clean on April 13, 2020, 11:07:00 pmQuote from: Dave Willis on April 13, 2020, 09:29:26 pmI reckon all those doctors and nurses who lost their lives must have had underlying health problems or were over seventy years old.Wouldn’t think they’d need visors, masks, gloves etc when the risks are so low.An idiot would reckon that, a sensible type would listen to what the experts are saying which is being exposed to large doses for the virus can increase the risk of getting a more serious infection, even then its only slightly, so unless you plan to be in a ward full of seriously ill with the virus patents there's no need for the hysterics.Have you any numbers for 'large doses' and 'a more serious infection'? What would be a 'large dose' of the virus? Or is it just large doses of bullshIt that you specialise in?There's a doctor on the Vine show most mornings who tries to calm the hysterical and stupid of which you are both, when asked the question about young healthy NHS workers dying she explained that the sicker you tend to be the more of the virus is in your system, basically its because your immune system isn't killing it, therefore to be exposed to such a person means you can be exposed to larger doses of the virus, this is one theory on why some healthy NHS workers are dying from the virus, as I keep saying we need to listen to the experts and not Guys like Griff who seems to be taking great pleasure in spreading their idiotic bile.I'm hysterical but you think I'm spreading idiotic bile? We've established that you have almost zero chance of dying from the virus, so why don't you leave it to others to discuss the pandemic? You are also unique in that you can work and not touch anything that someone has touched before you or will touch after you. You're in an enviable position but not everyone else is. You are safe but others have to work at it.Add childish to hysterical and stupid.I'm only repeating information about yourself that you have posted on the forum. I'm stupid, hysterical and childish because of what you post? Ok. Look, we know the virus won't affect you- you've told us- but It's not my fault that you feel uncomfortable about others talking about the virus. And you go on about being self righteous, when you're sat there in your Irony tower with almost zero chance of dying.
Quote from: G Griffin on April 14, 2020, 10:44:25 amQuote from: Dry Clean on April 14, 2020, 09:05:37 amQuote from: G Griffin on April 14, 2020, 12:05:43 amQuote from: Dry Clean on April 13, 2020, 11:07:00 pmQuote from: Dave Willis on April 13, 2020, 09:29:26 pmI reckon all those doctors and nurses who lost their lives must have had underlying health problems or were over seventy years old.Wouldn’t think they’d need visors, masks, gloves etc when the risks are so low.An idiot would reckon that, a sensible type would listen to what the experts are saying which is being exposed to large doses for the virus can increase the risk of getting a more serious infection, even then its only slightly, so unless you plan to be in a ward full of seriously ill with the virus patents there's no need for the hysterics.Have you any numbers for 'large doses' and 'a more serious infection'? What would be a 'large dose' of the virus? Or is it just large doses of bullshIt that you specialise in?There's a doctor on the Vine show most mornings who tries to calm the hysterical and stupid of which you are both, when asked the question about young healthy NHS workers dying she explained that the sicker you tend to be the more of the virus is in your system, basically its because your immune system isn't killing it, therefore to be exposed to such a person means you can be exposed to larger doses of the virus, this is one theory on why some healthy NHS workers are dying from the virus, as I keep saying we need to listen to the experts and not Guys like Griff who seems to be taking great pleasure in spreading their idiotic bile.I'm hysterical but you think I'm spreading idiotic bile? We've established that you have almost zero chance of dying from the virus, so why don't you leave it to others to discuss the pandemic? You are also unique in that you can work and not touch anything that someone has touched before you or will touch after you. You're in an enviable position but not everyone else is. You are safe but others have to work at it.Add childish to hysterical and stupid.
Quote from: Dry Clean on April 14, 2020, 09:05:37 amQuote from: G Griffin on April 14, 2020, 12:05:43 amQuote from: Dry Clean on April 13, 2020, 11:07:00 pmQuote from: Dave Willis on April 13, 2020, 09:29:26 pmI reckon all those doctors and nurses who lost their lives must have had underlying health problems or were over seventy years old.Wouldn’t think they’d need visors, masks, gloves etc when the risks are so low.An idiot would reckon that, a sensible type would listen to what the experts are saying which is being exposed to large doses for the virus can increase the risk of getting a more serious infection, even then its only slightly, so unless you plan to be in a ward full of seriously ill with the virus patents there's no need for the hysterics.Have you any numbers for 'large doses' and 'a more serious infection'? What would be a 'large dose' of the virus? Or is it just large doses of bullshIt that you specialise in?There's a doctor on the Vine show most mornings who tries to calm the hysterical and stupid of which you are both, when asked the question about young healthy NHS workers dying she explained that the sicker you tend to be the more of the virus is in your system, basically its because your immune system isn't killing it, therefore to be exposed to such a person means you can be exposed to larger doses of the virus, this is one theory on why some healthy NHS workers are dying from the virus, as I keep saying we need to listen to the experts and not Guys like Griff who seems to be taking great pleasure in spreading their idiotic bile.I'm hysterical but you think I'm spreading idiotic bile? We've established that you have almost zero chance of dying from the virus, so why don't you leave it to others to discuss the pandemic? You are also unique in that you can work and not touch anything that someone has touched before you or will touch after you. You're in an enviable position but not everyone else is. You are safe but others have to work at it.
Quote from: G Griffin on April 14, 2020, 12:05:43 amQuote from: Dry Clean on April 13, 2020, 11:07:00 pmQuote from: Dave Willis on April 13, 2020, 09:29:26 pmI reckon all those doctors and nurses who lost their lives must have had underlying health problems or were over seventy years old.Wouldn’t think they’d need visors, masks, gloves etc when the risks are so low.An idiot would reckon that, a sensible type would listen to what the experts are saying which is being exposed to large doses for the virus can increase the risk of getting a more serious infection, even then its only slightly, so unless you plan to be in a ward full of seriously ill with the virus patents there's no need for the hysterics.Have you any numbers for 'large doses' and 'a more serious infection'? What would be a 'large dose' of the virus? Or is it just large doses of bullshIt that you specialise in?There's a doctor on the Vine show most mornings who tries to calm the hysterical and stupid of which you are both, when asked the question about young healthy NHS workers dying she explained that the sicker you tend to be the more of the virus is in your system, basically its because your immune system isn't killing it, therefore to be exposed to such a person means you can be exposed to larger doses of the virus, this is one theory on why some healthy NHS workers are dying from the virus, as I keep saying we need to listen to the experts and not Guys like Griff who seems to be taking great pleasure in spreading their idiotic bile.
Quote from: Dry Clean on April 13, 2020, 11:07:00 pmQuote from: Dave Willis on April 13, 2020, 09:29:26 pmI reckon all those doctors and nurses who lost their lives must have had underlying health problems or were over seventy years old.Wouldn’t think they’d need visors, masks, gloves etc when the risks are so low.An idiot would reckon that, a sensible type would listen to what the experts are saying which is being exposed to large doses for the virus can increase the risk of getting a more serious infection, even then its only slightly, so unless you plan to be in a ward full of seriously ill with the virus patents there's no need for the hysterics.Have you any numbers for 'large doses' and 'a more serious infection'? What would be a 'large dose' of the virus? Or is it just large doses of bullshIt that you specialise in?
Quote from: Dave Willis on April 13, 2020, 09:29:26 pmI reckon all those doctors and nurses who lost their lives must have had underlying health problems or were over seventy years old.Wouldn’t think they’d need visors, masks, gloves etc when the risks are so low.An idiot would reckon that, a sensible type would listen to what the experts are saying which is being exposed to large doses for the virus can increase the risk of getting a more serious infection, even then its only slightly, so unless you plan to be in a ward full of seriously ill with the virus patents there's no need for the hysterics.
I reckon all those doctors and nurses who lost their lives must have had underlying health problems or were over seventy years old.Wouldn’t think they’d need visors, masks, gloves etc when the risks are so low.
Quote from: Dry Clean on April 14, 2020, 11:56:42 amQuote from: NWH on April 14, 2020, 11:11:48 am10000 people die of Flu each year they were saying blimey never knew that it was that many.Don't get hung up on numbers NWH, just like with corona many of those flu victims would have died anyway.You’re going to die anyway.
The point is we all die, just because some die from an otherwise avoidable cause doesn’t mean we should give up on them and just let it happen, shrug our shoulders and say ‘well, they were going to kick the bucket anyway’ Having other possibly terminal health conditions isn’t a reason to treat those who sick like you are an uncivilised individual.
Quote from: G Griffin on April 14, 2020, 12:05:55 pmQuote from: Dry Clean on April 14, 2020, 11:50:06 amQuote from: G Griffin on April 14, 2020, 10:44:25 amQuote from: Dry Clean on April 14, 2020, 09:05:37 amQuote from: G Griffin on April 14, 2020, 12:05:43 amQuote from: Dry Clean on April 13, 2020, 11:07:00 pmQuote from: Dave Willis on April 13, 2020, 09:29:26 pmI reckon all those doctors and nurses who lost their lives must have had underlying health problems or were over seventy years old.Wouldn’t think they’d need visors, masks, gloves etc when the risks are so low.An idiot would reckon that, a sensible type would listen to what the experts are saying which is being exposed to large doses for the virus can increase the risk of getting a more serious infection, even then its only slightly, so unless you plan to be in a ward full of seriously ill with the virus patents there's no need for the hysterics.Have you any numbers for 'large doses' and 'a more serious infection'? What would be a 'large dose' of the virus? Or is it just large doses of bullshIt that you specialise in?There's a doctor on the Vine show most mornings who tries to calm the hysterical and stupid of which you are both, when asked the question about young healthy NHS workers dying she explained that the sicker you tend to be the more of the virus is in your system, basically its because your immune system isn't killing it, therefore to be exposed to such a person means you can be exposed to larger doses of the virus, this is one theory on why some healthy NHS workers are dying from the virus, as I keep saying we need to listen to the experts and not Guys like Griff who seems to be taking great pleasure in spreading their idiotic bile.I'm hysterical but you think I'm spreading idiotic bile? We've established that you have almost zero chance of dying from the virus, so why don't you leave it to others to discuss the pandemic? You are also unique in that you can work and not touch anything that someone has touched before you or will touch after you. You're in an enviable position but not everyone else is. You are safe but others have to work at it.Add childish to hysterical and stupid.I'm only repeating information about yourself that you have posted on the forum. I'm stupid, hysterical and childish because of what you post? Ok. Look, we know the virus won't affect you- you've told us- but It's not my fault that you feel uncomfortable about others talking about the virus. And you go on about being self righteous, when you're sat there in your Irony tower with almost zero chance of dying.More childish babble, you're not repeating what I have said you are repeating what the experts I listen to have said, now if its not true that there is little to no chance of a healthy person dying from this virus then show me where an expert/qualified person has said this.
Quote from: George1234 on April 14, 2020, 12:10:57 pmQuote from: Dry Clean on April 14, 2020, 11:56:42 amQuote from: NWH on April 14, 2020, 11:11:48 am10000 people die of Flu each year they were saying blimey never knew that it was that many.Don't get hung up on numbers NWH, just like with corona many of those flu victims would have died anyway.You’re going to die anyway.Hopefully not from this virus George, but guys like Griff would have you believe you are, they seem to get pleasure in fearmongering.
Quote from: George1234 on April 14, 2020, 12:20:25 pmThe point is we all die, just because some die from an otherwise avoidable cause doesn’t mean we should give up on them and just let it happen, shrug our shoulders and say ‘well, they were going to kick the bucket anyway’ Having other possibly terminal health conditions isn’t a reason to treat those who sick like you are an uncivilised individual.Its why we are social distancing George, nobody on here is saying that we shouldn't practice social distancing to protect those who are at risk, end of life or other.
Quote from: Dry Clean on April 14, 2020, 12:16:24 pmQuote from: George1234 on April 14, 2020, 12:10:57 pmQuote from: Dry Clean on April 14, 2020, 11:56:42 amQuote from: NWH on April 14, 2020, 11:11:48 am10000 people die of Flu each year they were saying blimey never knew that it was that many.Don't get hung up on numbers NWH, just like with corona many of those flu victims would have died anyway.You’re going to die anyway.Hopefully not from this virus George, but guys like Griff would have you believe you are, they seem to get pleasure in fearmongering.Hopefully? You're sounding less confident now.
Quote from: G Griffin on April 14, 2020, 12:35:29 pmQuote from: Dry Clean on April 14, 2020, 12:16:24 pmQuote from: George1234 on April 14, 2020, 12:10:57 pmQuote from: Dry Clean on April 14, 2020, 11:56:42 amQuote from: NWH on April 14, 2020, 11:11:48 am10000 people die of Flu each year they were saying blimey never knew that it was that many.Don't get hung up on numbers NWH, just like with corona many of those flu victims would have died anyway.You’re going to die anyway.Hopefully not from this virus George, but guys like Griff would have you believe you are, they seem to get pleasure in fearmongering.Hopefully? You're sounding less confident now.George may have health conditions that I don't know about Griff, hence the hopefully, you do realise that to most this would be obvious.
Quote from: Dry Clean on April 14, 2020, 12:25:45 pmQuote from: George1234 on April 14, 2020, 12:20:25 pmThe point is we all die, just because some die from an otherwise avoidable cause doesn’t mean we should give up on them and just let it happen, shrug our shoulders and say ‘well, they were going to kick the bucket anyway’ Having other possibly terminal health conditions isn’t a reason to treat those who sick like you are an uncivilised individual.Its why we are social distancing George, nobody on here is saying that we shouldn't practice social distancing to protect those who are at risk, end of life or other.Don't you social distance form those not at risk then? How do you know if someone is at risk or not? What do you do if someone isn't at risk but they are going to come into contact with someone that is at risk?
Quote from: Dry Clean on April 14, 2020, 12:44:04 pmQuote from: G Griffin on April 14, 2020, 12:35:29 pmQuote from: Dry Clean on April 14, 2020, 12:16:24 pmQuote from: George1234 on April 14, 2020, 12:10:57 pmQuote from: Dry Clean on April 14, 2020, 11:56:42 amQuote from: NWH on April 14, 2020, 11:11:48 am10000 people die of Flu each year they were saying blimey never knew that it was that many.Don't get hung up on numbers NWH, just like with corona many of those flu victims would have died anyway.You’re going to die anyway.Hopefully not from this virus George, but guys like Griff would have you believe you are, they seem to get pleasure in fearmongering.Hopefully? You're sounding less confident now.George may have health conditions that I don't know about Griff, hence the hopefully, you do realise that to most this would be obvious.He said 'you're going to die anyway'.
Quote from: G Griffin on April 14, 2020, 12:47:16 pmQuote from: Dry Clean on April 14, 2020, 12:44:04 pmQuote from: G Griffin on April 14, 2020, 12:35:29 pmQuote from: Dry Clean on April 14, 2020, 12:16:24 pmQuote from: George1234 on April 14, 2020, 12:10:57 pmQuote from: Dry Clean on April 14, 2020, 11:56:42 amQuote from: NWH on April 14, 2020, 11:11:48 am10000 people die of Flu each year they were saying blimey never knew that it was that many.Don't get hung up on numbers NWH, just like with corona many of those flu victims would have died anyway.You’re going to die anyway.Hopefully not from this virus George, but guys like Griff would have you believe you are, they seem to get pleasure in fearmongering.Hopefully? You're sounding less confident now.George may have health conditions that I don't know about Griff, hence the hopefully, you do realise that to most this would be obvious.He said 'you're going to die anyway'.Yes but unlike you the rest of us know what he meant.
Quote from: Dry Clean on April 14, 2020, 11:56:42 amQuote from: NWH on April 14, 2020, 11:11:48 am10000 people die of Flu each year they were saying blimey never knew that it was that many.Don't get hung up on numbers NWH, just like with corona many of those flu victims would have died anyway.They all would have died- or will die- anyway.Err, are we not all going to die or do you plan to be immortal?The fact that lots of the deceased had other health issues is clouding the issue. It’s the Covid19 that is the last straw. Lots of these people would have lived for years without Covid19. Have you got a timescale for the deaths and having the flu?
for Christ sake guys, can we please stop arguing and maybe get back to the original thread or at least something similar
Quote from: G Griffin on April 14, 2020, 12:09:08 pmQuote from: Dry Clean on April 14, 2020, 11:56:42 amQuote from: NWH on April 14, 2020, 11:11:48 am10000 people die of Flu each year they were saying blimey never knew that it was that many.Don't get hung up on numbers NWH, just like with corona many of those flu victims would have died anyway.They all would have died- or will die- anyway.Err, are we not all going to die or do you plan to be immortal?The fact that lots of the deceased had other health issues is clouding the issue. It’s the Covid19 that is the last straw. Lots of these people would have lived for years without Covid19. Have you got a timescale for the deaths and having the flu?I said many not all, 1400 or so people die in the UK every day, fact is many of these who would have died from other conditions will now be classed as Covid19 victims, same with flu.
Quote from: Jay Le Huray on April 14, 2020, 02:45:31 pmfor Christ sake guys, can we please stop arguing and maybe get back to the original thread or at least something similarSorry, Jay but when I read some of the stuff that I read last night and today I will put up an argument on a subject as serious as this. If I get called a few names, it doesn't matter to me if it means even a few people see some sense. It's my calling .
I wonder if Dry Clean gets a dose of Coronavirus he might also be diagnosed with asthma and diabetes in addition to a heart condition.