[Lee GLS]

Wait a minute is there something wrong with the Rangers 
If I was to get one I would really like the ranger

The oil pump issue is still, well an issue, despite Ford modifying the design.
Of course, Ford also refuse to admit that there was ever a problem with the 2.2 and 3.2 Ranger engines going bang so anything that you've heard must just be anecdotal.
And the Group Action Page on Facebook is just a coincidence too -as are the Ford Technicians on the Ranger Forums who are fitting about four new oil pumps per day.

The course of action, as outlined above, is just to get it changed for a proper gear driven pump - either the Australian type or other.

Aside from that they're very good and have become the best selling truck in the UK.

One very annoying issue is the lack of a rear limited slip diff on the newer models (2011 onward) along with underbody protection. If you don't go off road then it's fine - but I do and it isn't.

An off road pack / rear locking diff is available as an option but most don't have it - a bit daft really as it was only an extra £300.

The ridiculous part is that all of the older Mazda built Rangers (99-11), like mine, had this as standard and are far more usable on and off road in stock form.

Ford call it progress...apparently.

Also, the 2.2 and 3.2 are now history and replaced with a more Polar Bear friendly 2.0 single or twin turbo.
They don't seem bad at all - how long they'll last of course is another matter.

Wow well you and spurce should start up window cleaning mechanics advice services lol.

I really really really like the look of the ranger realistically I probably would consider buying around 2016 but now I'm worried!.
How about the Mitsubishi then ?

You will be fine with a 2016 model provided it has full service history as the newer pump are much better. Or you can get an FAI gear pump for £60 and it’s around 4 hours labour to fit so not too much money for peace of mind.

[EandM]

Wait a minute is there something wrong with the Rangers 
If I was to get one I would really like the ranger

The oil pump issue is still, well an issue, despite Ford modifying the design.
Of course, Ford also refuse to admit that there was ever a problem with the 2.2 and 3.2 Ranger engines going bang so anything that you've heard must just be anecdotal.
And the Group Action Page on Facebook is just a coincidence too -as are the Ford Technicians on the Ranger Forums who are fitting about four new oil pumps per day.

The course of action, as outlined above, is just to get it changed for a proper gear driven pump - either the Australian type or other.

Aside from that they're very good and have become the best selling truck in the UK.

One very annoying issue is the lack of a rear limited slip diff on the newer models (2011 onward) along with underbody protection. If you don't go off road then it's fine - but I do and it isn't.

An off road pack / rear locking diff is available as an option but most don't have it - a bit daft really as it was only an extra £300.

The ridiculous part is that all of the older Mazda built Rangers (99-11), like mine, had this as standard and are far more usable on and off road in stock form.

Ford call it progress...apparently.

Also, the 2.2 and 3.2 are now history and replaced with a more Polar Bear friendly 2.0 single or twin turbo.
They don't seem bad at all - how long they'll last of course is another matter.

Wow well you and spurce should start up window cleaning mechanics advice services lol.

I really really really like the look of the ranger realistically I probably would consider buying around 2016 but now I'm worried!.
How about the Mitsubishi then ?

I just like to know what I'm dealing with as money is limited due to circumstances.

Despite it being an issue that should never have existed, It wouldn't put me off buying a newer (Ford as opposed to Mazda) Ranger but I'd ignore anything Ford said about the oil pump issue and just replace it with a proper one.
The extra length of the newer Supercab bed would be a big help to me and the improvement in power, economy and drivability would be most welcome.
The off road ability just as isn't as good and as I go off road every day this would be an issue.
Used locking diffs can be bought and fitted but for most people, I'm sure it works fine.

I originally started off looking for an older L200 but found that they had a great number of issues that I couldn't afford to live with. Some of them managed 300k+ without any problems at all. Others died on eBay at about 60k.

The older Rangers aren't really prone to anything, except now rust as many of them are up to 20 years old.

Don't know much about the newer L200 except that they have class leading ride quality due to coil springs at the rear - which also results in a payload of about 500 kg, which makes it a bit hopeless.

[EandM]

Wait a minute is there something wrong with the Rangers 
If I was to get one I would really like the ranger

The oil pump issue is still, well an issue, despite Ford modifying the design.
Of course, Ford also refuse to admit that there was ever a problem with the 2.2 and 3.2 Ranger engines going bang so anything that you've heard must just be anecdotal.
And the Group Action Page on Facebook is just a coincidence too -as are the Ford Technicians on the Ranger Forums who are fitting about four new oil pumps per day.

The course of action, as outlined above, is just to get it changed for a proper gear driven pump - either the Australian type or other.

Aside from that they're very good and have become the best selling truck in the UK.

One very annoying issue is the lack of a rear limited slip diff on the newer models (2011 onward) along with underbody protection. If you don't go off road then it's fine - but I do and it isn't.

An off road pack / rear locking diff is available as an option but most don't have it - a bit daft really as it was only an extra £300.

The ridiculous part is that all of the older Mazda built Rangers (99-11), like mine, had this as standard and are far more usable on and off road in stock form.

Ford call it progress...apparently.

Also, the 2.2 and 3.2 are now history and replaced with a more Polar Bear friendly 2.0 single or twin turbo.
They don't seem bad at all - how long they'll last of course is another matter.

Wow well you and spurce should start up window cleaning mechanics advice services lol.

I really really really like the look of the ranger realistically I probably would consider buying around 2016 but now I'm worried!.
How about the Mitsubishi then ?

You will be fine with a 2016 model provided it has full service history as the newer pump are much better. Or you can get an FAI gear pump for £60 and it’s around 4 hours labour to fit so not too much money for peace of mind.

I think the issue may stem from the current Ranger being an Australian designed and built truck (other places build them too) and having a 20k mile first oil change.

I'm sure that if it lives somewhere fairly warm that might be ok.
Over here, where it's often cold, the oil life isn't anything like as long.
The original pump might be fine with 5-8k change intervals but it's a rubbish design and I really couldn't afford to take the risk.

[Crystal-clear]

So I test drove a 3.2 66 2017 plate today.
Amazing drive.

Some questions if it's okay!
So one worry I can see with yours is no tray on the floor? Should that bed chip you'll have rot issues?

I would like a 650 tank 2 reels like yours one electric how does the 35 footer fit as space is less
Will a 650 fit okay:?

How are you liking working from it being a few days now?
Who fixed it all in was it just you? Do the usual companys supply and fit to pick ups also?
Love how the reels are on the tale but can that damage the hinges? as hose reels can weigh quite a bit.

There isnt a bulkhead like in Van's just for extra protection? Or does the end of the tray bed act as one?

Is the 3.2 way to much more on fuel then the 2.2
I heard the 2.2 can have some problems so I'm off put.
I must have a roof rack and rear cover ofcourse however if I cant find with how much extra to put on I guess best to buy with both on?
Might as well get the euro 6 so 2017? I was thinking and 3.2 but dont wana be roasted on fuel

[hank jr]

Away from all the can we can’t we work I finished setting up my pickup. I know most don’t like them but I needed a family vehicle and have always wanted a pickup, don’t know why, I’m really happy with it. The range of angles I pull the hose out is brilliant, I can fit my SLX 22 and 35 in the back, it’s a tubeless set up and a custom 500 L tank

https://youtu.be/qY5mxR9Mg6E

I've got the same set up. I've got 3 kids and misses who can't drive....whats the point in paying for 2 vehicles?

[TomCrowther]

So I test drove a 3.2 66 2017 plate today.
Amazing drive.

Some questions if it's okay!
So one worry I can see with yours is no tray on the floor? Should that bed chip you'll have rot issues?

I would like a 650 tank 2 reels like yours one electric how does the 35 footer fit as space is less
Will a 650 fit okay:?

How are you liking working from it being a few days now?
Who fixed it all in was it just you? Do the usual companys supply and fit to pick ups also?
Love how the reels are on the tale but can that damage the hinges? as hose reels can weigh quite a bit.

There isnt a bulkhead like in Van's just for extra protection? Or does the end of the tray bed act as one?

Is the 3.2 way to much more on fuel then the 2.2
I heard the 2.2 can have some problems so I'm off put.
I must have a roof rack and rear cover ofcourse however if I cant find with how much extra to put on I guess best to buy with both on?
Might as well get the euro 6 so 2017? I was thinking and 3.2 but dont wana be roasted on fuel

Do not, under any circumstances, buy the 3.2 litre engine. It can't go round corners any faster than the 2.2 and everyone who buys one wishes they had bought the 2.2.

[robbo333]

Nice set up Lee. I'd be well chuffed with that.

I used to run a Toyota Hilux Vigo (not for window cleaning) and loved it.

I've got a Hiace now, plus I also do pressure washing, soft washing, blah blah blah. The add ons are doing well, so I feel kind of ...stuck!

To be honest, i'd ditch all the add ons and get a vehicle like yours.

[Crystal-clear]

So I test drove a 3.2 66 2017 plate today.
Amazing drive.

Some questions if it's okay!
So one worry I can see with yours is no tray on the floor? Should that bed chip you'll have rot issues?

I would like a 650 tank 2 reels like yours one electric how does the 35 footer fit as space is less
Will a 650 fit okay:?

How are you liking working from it being a few days now?
Who fixed it all in was it just you? Do the usual companys supply and fit to pick ups also?
Love how the reels are on the tale but can that damage the hinges? as hose reels can weigh quite a bit.

There isnt a bulkhead like in Van's just for extra protection? Or does the end of the tray bed act as one?

Is the 3.2 way to much more on fuel then the 2.2
I heard the 2.2 can have some problems so I'm off put.
I must have a roof rack and rear cover ofcourse however if I cant find with how much extra to put on I guess best to buy with both on?
Might as well get the euro 6 so 2017? I was thinking and 3.2 but dont wana be roasted on fuel

Do not, under any circumstances, buy the 3.2 litre engine. It can't go round corners any faster than the 2.2 and everyone who buys one wishes they had bought the 2.2.

Thanks for the heads up however I hear that that from the traders the 3.2 version is a lot better ?

[TomCrowther]

My buddy runs a garage and gave me no doubt which one to have. He also said the 3.2 value plummets out of sight.

[Crystal-clear]

My buddy runs a garage and gave me no doubt which one to have. He also said the 3.2 value plummets out of sight.

Right so I'm getting conflicting information I remember last time I thought about this and I test drove a Mitsubishi Barbarian much prefer the ranger now.. but I ended up buying nothing because everytime I asked about it they were problems here and problems there and just replaced with van.

So the dealer that I speak to at the moment by no means is desperate for sale he tells me he can get me a 2.2 if I want one but he's recommending the 3.2. I'm going to call him and tell him what you said
If there's anything else I should know of please let me know

[Lee GLS]

If you go on the Facebook ranger groups, most go for the 3.2 as it has more power and economy if virtually the same and the all love them, I went for the 2.2 as they were cheaper, and thought it may be better on fuel, The engines are pretty much identical apart from the 3.2 being a 5 cylinder. Neither engine have problems specific to its capacity, they generally suffer the same problems regardless of wether it’s a 3.2 or 2.2.

As has been said before the pre 2015 suffer from oil pump failures from 2016 on they seem to have sorted it.

They all have minor common faults like the ad blue light not going off after refilling, this is because they get run too low and the sensor crystallises over, they all also get through abs sensors which bring up a variety of dash lights, but is not a big issue to fix

I personally love my truck and setup, I’m absolutely thrilled with it, but it has cost me a fortune. You really need a custom tank to maximise the space inside, the canopy’s are not cheap unless you find a second had one, mine was £2300.

I have dampers and spring assisters on my tailgate so it soft opens and makes it easier to lift it shut,

I personally think a pickup is really only suitable for 1 operator, but with the right reels and tank it could of course be used with 2, but you loose the little space you have in the back because of the extra reel.

You can fit a 35ft pole diagonally across, it fits nicely.

I took the bed liner out of mine as everything slides about and it surprising how much space it takes, every CM counts really. I have painted it with protectakote so there is not risk of future rusting.

I fitted it all out myself.

Hope I’ve answered all your questions crystal

[Crystal-clear]

If you go on the Facebook ranger groups, most go for the 3.2 as it has more power and economy if virtually the same and the all love them, I went for the 2.2 as they were cheaper, and thought it may be better on fuel, The engines are pretty much identical apart from the 3.2 being a 5 cylinder. Neither engine have problems specific to its capacity, they generally suffer the same problems regardless of wether it’s a 3.2 or 2.2.

As has been said before the pre 2015 suffer from oil pump failures from 2016 on they seem to have sorted it.

They all have minor common faults like the ad blue light not going off after refilling, this is because they get run too low and the sensor crystallises over, they all also get through abs sensors which bring up a variety of dash lights, but is not a big issue to fix

I personally love my truck and setup, I’m absolutely thrilled with it, but it has cost me a fortune. You really need a custom tank to maximise the space inside, the canopy’s are not cheap unless you find a second had one, mine was £2300.

I have dampers and spring assisters on my tailgate so it soft opens and makes it easier to lift it shut,

I personally think a pickup is really only suitable for 1 operator, but with the right reels and tank it could of course be used with 2, but you loose the little space you have in the back because of the extra reel.

You can fit a 35ft pole diagonally across, it fits nicely.

I took the bed liner out of mine as everything slides about and it surprising how much space it takes, every CM counts really. I have painted it with protectakote so there is not risk of future rusting.

I fitted it all out myself.

Hope I’ve answered all your questions crystal

Yeah thx!.
So if you had a 3.2 how much more fuel a week do you think you would spend ?
Based on what you're saying 3.2 is totally fine
Where did you secure the battery £2300 ain't bad!

[EandM]

My buddy runs a garage and gave me no doubt which one to have. He also said the 3.2 value plummets out of sight.

Right so I'm getting conflicting information I remember last time I thought about this and I test drove a Mitsubishi Barbarian much prefer the ranger now.. but I ended up buying nothing because everytime I asked about it they were problems here and problems there and just replaced with van.

So the dealer that I speak to at the moment by no means is desperate for sale he tells me he can get me a 2.2 if I want one but he's recommending the 3.2. I'm going to call him and tell him what you said
If there's anything else I should know of please let me know

I'd go with everything Lee said.

The Ranger Forums are full of people with 3.2 who really love them. Saying that the 2.2 is perfectly good at what it does and has plenty of power in its own right.

If you were doing a lot of towing then the 3.2 is probably better suited but for general stuff, including window cleaning, I'm sure the 2.2 is fine.

The difference in mpg is likely to be fairly negligible and the VED, being commercial is the same on both.

Both engines have now been phased out in favour of the 2.0 single and bi-turbo and, pre-virus, there was a rush to get a 3.2 whilst stocks last.

The 2.0 bi-turbo seem to be very good but longevity is doubtful as it's working 65% harder for the same bhp than the 3.2.

As a point of balance: The 3.2 makes around 200 bhp and the 2.2 between 150 and 170 depending on age.
My highly reliable, daily workhorse and rather elderly 2.5 Ranger makes 107 bhp and I've never found it lacking in any way.

[TomCrowther]

So I test drove a 3.2 66 2017 plate today.
Amazing drive.

Some questions if it's okay!
So one worry I can see with yours is no tray on the floor? Should that bed chip you'll have rot issues?

I would like a 650 tank 2 reels like yours one electric how does the 35 footer fit as space is less
Will a 650 fit okay:?

How are you liking working from it being a few days now?
Who fixed it all in was it just you? Do the usual companys supply and fit to pick ups also?
Love how the reels are on the tale but can that damage the hinges? as hose reels can weigh quite a bit.

There isnt a bulkhead like in Van's just for extra protection? Or does the end of the tray bed act as one?

Is the 3.2 way to much more on fuel then the 2.2
I heard the 2.2 can have some problems so I'm off put.
I must have a roof rack and rear cover ofcourse however if I cant find with how much extra to put on I guess best to buy with both on?
Might as well get the euro 6 so 2017? I was thinking and 3.2 but dont wana be roasted on fuel

Do not, under any circumstances, buy the 3.2 litre engine. It can't go round corners any faster than the 2.2 and everyone who buys one wishes they had bought the 2.2.

Thanks for the heads up however I hear that that from the traders the 3.2 version is a lot better ?

That’s because they can’t shift them and see you as a way to get rid of one.

[Lee GLS]

If you go on the Facebook ranger groups, most go for the 3.2 as it has more power and economy if virtually the same and the all love them, I went for the 2.2 as they were cheaper, and thought it may be better on fuel, The engines are pretty much identical apart from the 3.2 being a 5 cylinder. Neither engine have problems specific to its capacity, they generally suffer the same problems regardless of wether it’s a 3.2 or 2.2.

As has been said before the pre 2015 suffer from oil pump failures from 2016 on they seem to have sorted it.

They all have minor common faults like the ad blue light not going off after refilling, this is because they get run too low and the sensor crystallises over, they all also get through abs sensors which bring up a variety of dash lights, but is not a big issue to fix

I personally love my truck and setup, I’m absolutely thrilled with it, but it has cost me a fortune. You really need a custom tank to maximise the space inside, the canopy’s are not cheap unless you find a second had one, mine was £2300.

I have dampers and spring assisters on my tailgate so it soft opens and makes it easier to lift it shut,

I personally think a pickup is really only suitable for 1 operator, but with the right reels and tank it could of course be used with 2, but you loose the little space you have in the back because of the extra reel.

You can fit a 35ft pole diagonally across, it fits nicely.

I took the bed liner out of mine as everything slides about and it surprising how much space it takes, every CM counts really. I have painted it with protectakote so there is not risk of future rusting.

I fitted it all out myself.

Hope I’ve answered all your questions crystal

Yeah thx!.
So if you had a 3.2 how much more fuel a week do you think you would spend ?
Based on what you're saying 3.2 is totally fine
Where did you secure the battery £2300 ain't bad!

Looking at the figures on the FB forums the 2016 on Rangers seem to be better on fuel, my 2015 2.2 is poor. On a steady run it struggles to make 32mpg using it for very local work this week it was showing 23mpg.  On FB the new 2.2s seem to easily get high 30’s on a run and low 30ish running around and the 3.2 seem similar.

I can’t guarantee these figures are accurate though as everyone’s computer could rear incorrectly

[EandM]

If you go on the Facebook ranger groups, most go for the 3.2 as it has more power and economy if virtually the same and the all love them, I went for the 2.2 as they were cheaper, and thought it may be better on fuel, The engines are pretty much identical apart from the 3.2 being a 5 cylinder. Neither engine have problems specific to its capacity, they generally suffer the same problems regardless of wether it’s a 3.2 or 2.2.

As has been said before the pre 2015 suffer from oil pump failures from 2016 on they seem to have sorted it.

They all have minor common faults like the ad blue light not going off after refilling, this is because they get run too low and the sensor crystallises over, they all also get through abs sensors which bring up a variety of dash lights, but is not a big issue to fix

I personally love my truck and setup, I’m absolutely thrilled with it, but it has cost me a fortune. You really need a custom tank to maximise the space inside, the canopy’s are not cheap unless you find a second had one, mine was £2300.

I have dampers and spring assisters on my tailgate so it soft opens and makes it easier to lift it shut,

I personally think a pickup is really only suitable for 1 operator, but with the right reels and tank it could of course be used with 2, but you loose the little space you have in the back because of the extra reel.

You can fit a 35ft pole diagonally across, it fits nicely.

I took the bed liner out of mine as everything slides about and it surprising how much space it takes, every CM counts really. I have painted it with protectakote so there is not risk of future rusting.

I fitted it all out myself.

Hope I’ve answered all your questions crystal

Yeah thx!.
So if you had a 3.2 how much more fuel a week do you think you would spend ?
Based on what you're saying 3.2 is totally fine
Where did you secure the battery £2300 ain't bad!

Looking at the figures on the FB forums the 2016 on Rangers seem to be better on fuel, my 2015 2.2 is poor. On a steady run it struggles to make 32mpg using it for very local work this week it was showing 23mpg.  On FB the new 2.2s seem to easily get high 30’s on a run and low 30ish running around and the 3.2 seem similar.

I can’t guarantee these figures are accurate though as everyone’s computer could rear incorrectly

I've seen forum figures up into the low 40s which is very impressive. I've also seen 3.2 owners towing at 16 mpg!
Scary.

I'm guessing most of the high mpg's are from trucks doing higher speed work and running nearly empty payloads ?
Also from late 2015 they're nearly all limited to commercial speed limits which would have a further improvement on the mpg.

Low 30's for yours sound excellent and in my geriatric Mk2 I rarely average much more than 24 mpg.

[windowswashed]

I've a question, how do you secure the other pole whilst your tailgate is open to would be thieves whilst you are out of sight of your pickup?

[Lee GLS]

I've a question, how do you secure the other pole whilst your tailgate is open to would be thieves whilst you are out of sight of your pickup?

I close the top opener and lock the truck then there is no way to remove the pole

[Crystal-clear]

I've a question, how do you secure the other pole whilst your tailgate is open to would be thieves whilst you are out of sight of your pickup?

I close the top opener and lock the truck then there is no way to remove the pole

Wow amazing.
I can see more space for the second reel on the right!
The 3.2 seems to be going for about £15500 average miles + vat a 2017 the one I test drove.
Your one is prob about 12k+ vat
Here's the thing a good doblo with 1k payload small for tight spaces £4600+ vat. The vat doesbt bother me as I'll have It off set againts vat bill but
It's about £10,000 more ... so I start back tracking can pay for either.. but I struggle to justify it and keep on going back to Van's!!! I start convincing myself its over kill yet love the ranger.

[EandM]

I've a question, how do you secure the other pole whilst your tailgate is open to would be thieves whilst you are out of sight of your pickup?

I close the top opener and lock the truck then there is no way to remove the pole

Wow amazing.
I can see more space for the second reel on the right!
The 3.2 seems to be going for about £15500 average miles + vat a 2017 the one I test drove.
Your one is prob about 12k+ vat
Here's the thing a good doblo with 1k payload small for tight spaces £4600+ vat. The vat doesbt bother me as I'll have It off set againts vat bill but
It's about £10,000 more ... so I start back tracking can pay for either.. but I struggle to justify it and keep on going back to Van's!!! I start convincing myself its over kill yet love the ranger.

There've been a couple of 2013 plate double cabs with sensible miles for around the £7.5k mark. The current situation has had a massive impact on vehicle prices.