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Poll

If the Government makes the decision later today to pay Self employed a decent proportion of their SE?

Yes, do the right thing along with the rest of the country and close
Wait till full lockdown being told to close.
Ignore all and carry on.
Wait another week as see what happens.

johnny bravo

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Re: Would you make the decision to close your business.....
« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2020, 10:40:21 am »
don't be seen coughing
which is also a common thing

G Griffin

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Re: Would you make the decision to close your business.....
« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2020, 10:58:06 am »
There's a lot of cognitive dissonance going on.
I think ones are trying to convince themselves about going out to work.
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Re: Would you make the decision to close your business.....
« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2020, 11:00:28 am »
I'm not working today. Undecided on tomorrow or rest of week. Going to see what Governments latest announcement will be this afternoon. Remember learning about the titanic in school ? What do you think they'll be teaching the kids in history lessons in years to come about Covid19 ?..... If someone stands in your front garden shouting at you that your house is on fire do you wave back ?.... No. That's pretty much what Italy is doing now and we are all waving. We are not unsinkable.

Arnold Palmer

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Re: Would you make the decision to close your business.....
« Reply #23 on: March 23, 2020, 11:31:34 am »
There's a lot of cognitive dissonance going on.
I think ones are trying to convince themselves about going out to work.

Ones definitely are.

Stoots

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Re: Would you make the decision to close your business.....
« Reply #24 on: March 23, 2020, 11:46:20 am »
Well I'm out and apart from everyone and the kids being at home which is annoying it's a nice day for window cleaning.

No point stopping prematurely we've probably only got a matter of a week or a few at most before forced to stop may as well make the most of it.  only had 1 cancel from todays work and doing a couple of first cleans. Lots working from home so still have an income.

p1w1

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Re: Would you make the decision to close your business.....
« Reply #25 on: March 23, 2020, 11:52:30 am »
I'm not working today. Undecided on tomorrow or rest of week. Going to see what Governments latest announcement will be this afternoon. Remember learning about the titanic in school ? What do you think they'll be teaching the kids in history lessons in years to come about Covid19 ?..... If someone stands in your front garden shouting at you that your house is on fire do you wave back ?.... No. That's pretty much what Italy is doing now and we are all waving. We are not unsinkable.
Did you not hear the science expert yesterday saying we can not keep comparing ourselves to Italy , They are different socially,  They have a far higher older and high risk population then the UK and the majority of them live in the region were the majority of the deaths are, so there death rate is going to be very high They reckon thousands could have had it before the virus was properly understood.
I agree with everything you say but people need to stop comparing us to Italy.
Personally I find it best to just listen to the experts and not papers, social media and what the press want to print and say, keeps me more sane.

deeege

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Re: Would you make the decision to close your business.....
« Reply #26 on: March 23, 2020, 12:10:32 pm »
I'm not working today. Undecided on tomorrow or rest of week. Going to see what Governments latest announcement will be this afternoon. Remember learning about the titanic in school ? What do you think they'll be teaching the kids in history lessons in years to come about Covid19 ?..... If someone stands in your front garden shouting at you that your house is on fire do you wave back ?.... No. That's pretty much what Italy is doing now and we are all waving. We are not unsinkable.
Did you not hear the science expert yesterday saying we can not keep comparing ourselves to Italy , They are different socially,  They have a far higher older and high risk population then the UK and the majority of them live in the region were the majority of the deaths are, so there death rate is going to be very high They reckon thousands could have had it before the virus was properly understood.
I agree with everything you say but people need to stop comparing us to Italy.
Personally I find it best to just listen to the experts and not papers, social media and what the press want to print and say, keeps me more sane.

They also have around 8x the amount of critical care beds that we have, which is the part that worries me.
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Re: Would you make the decision to close your business.....
« Reply #27 on: March 23, 2020, 12:19:25 pm »
In the next couple of weeks we will find out either way. We've a similar sized population to Italy, granted we maybe different in other ways. Their health care system ranks higher than ours though and still the death toll rises. Italy has warned us and the world. I think it's worth taking heed even if it proves to be different here.

G Griffin

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Re: Would you make the decision to close your business.....
« Reply #28 on: March 23, 2020, 12:25:31 pm »
The death rate in Italy is also high because they were testing only critical cases.
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CleanClear

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Re: Would you make the decision to close your business.....
« Reply #29 on: March 23, 2020, 12:34:04 pm »
Spain, yesterday:



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Spain, today ;

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Forum Admin

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Re: Would you make the decision to close your business.....
« Reply #30 on: March 23, 2020, 12:37:59 pm »
People need to stop assuming we are invincible, these other countries are looking at us like we have gone mad, they cannot believe we are carrying on as normal knowing what's coming. Unfortunately some won't take the advice until we start getting hundreds/thousands fatalities a day....sadly a lot of damage is already done then. It's the actions now that affect what happens in 2/3 and further weeks.
What is coming will be horrendous, if you can please stay home, save the NHS and save lives.

PHILIP HARDY

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Re: Would you make the decision to close your business.....
« Reply #31 on: March 23, 2020, 12:57:02 pm »
I'm not working today. Undecided on tomorrow or rest of week. Going to see what Governments latest announcement will be this afternoon. Remember learning about the titanic in school ? What do you think they'll be teaching the kids in history lessons in years to come about Covid19 ?..... If someone stands in your front garden shouting at you that your house is on fire do you wave back ?.... No. That's pretty much what Italy is doing now and we are all waving. We are not unsinkable.
Did you not hear the science expert yesterday saying we can not keep comparing ourselves to Italy , They are different socially,  They have a far higher older and high risk population then the UK and the majority of them live in the region were the majority of the deaths are, so there death rate is going to be very high They reckon thousands could have had it before the virus was properly understood.
I agree with everything you say but people need to stop comparing us to Italy.
Personally I find it best to just listen to the experts and not papers, social media and what the press want to print and say, keeps me more sane.
On the other hand the reason Italy have a more aged population is because they live and eat well and dont have the same levels of diabetes and heart desease that we do, if its killing them because they are older it sure as hell will get them over here for being unhealthy.
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dazmond

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Re: Would you make the decision to close your business.....
« Reply #32 on: March 23, 2020, 01:10:39 pm »
the thing is the more severe lockdowns in other countries are not working either!casualties are still getting higher and higher......

theres no chance of passing on the virus(or getting it!)cleaning outside windows if your customers pay online and you stand a few metres away from the customers so i dont see what the problem is for us cleaners......

theres even talk of stopping people going out ALTOGETHER!NOT EVEN FOR A WALK!......we re all gonna go insane stuck in the house.....mounting anger and rebellion will just see us flout  this and go for a walk/run anyway.....

its an english trait to go outside when the weathers nice and i cant see it changing anytime soon......just stay away from other people.....(its easy where i live as its only a little town)........
price higher/work harder!

Forum Admin

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Re: Would you make the decision to close your business.....
« Reply #33 on: March 23, 2020, 01:15:12 pm »
The severe lockdowns are working, who knows what it would be like without them...the issue is they are done too late when already thousands have this virus and it gets worse and then 2-3 weeks later you see this spikes. I agree if you're in a rural area and lucky to be able to do that then great, but people cramming in these parks these past few days is just so selfish....they will understand but far too late.

Missing Link

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Re: Would you make the decision to close your business.....
« Reply #34 on: March 23, 2020, 01:43:26 pm »
The death rate in Italy is also high because they were testing only critical cases.

Testing sounds like a killer.

Maybe they ought to stop it.

Over here it's the coronavirus.
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The Jester of Wibbly

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Re: Would you make the decision to close your business.....
« Reply #35 on: March 23, 2020, 01:56:27 pm »
Social media moaners are taking things by storm at the moment. Not sure if it's jealously but they seem to hate anyone being out without nessassary reason.  A mobile hairdresser has been slandered for carrying on working.

I am waiting for someone to shout from the other side of the road at me impersonating Billy the Kid, pointing their phone at me screaming 'I'm gonna make you famous'.   ;D ;D
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p1w1

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Re: Would you make the decision to close your business.....
« Reply #36 on: March 23, 2020, 02:15:32 pm »
Social media moaners are taking things by storm at the moment. Not sure if it's jealously but they seem to hate anyone being out without nessassary reason.  A mobile hairdresser has been slandered for carrying on working.

I am waiting for someone to shout from the other side of the road at me impersonating Billy the Kid, pointing their phone at me screaming 'I'm gonna make you famous'.   ;D ;D
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andyM

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Re: Would you make the decision to close your business.....
« Reply #37 on: March 23, 2020, 02:22:31 pm »
I've done 3/4 of a normal working day today as i was just testing the water.
I don't deem my being out working as unnecessary as it's essential to earn my living.
I've been using sanitiser and following the guidelines and using the social distancing rule.
Every customer i have spoken too has been positive about me being out working today, and i've just mentioned to all of them that basically i will try to keep the round going as best i can (if allowed), but it will be a case of "see you when i see you" and for them to contact me if they need to.
We all need to ensure that there might be a business left for us when this all eventually settles down.
Contact your customers where possible by whichever means possible, and keep hold of them, and it might also give you some reassurance.
Hold tight, and carry on, until you are told any different as we could be in for a long bumpy road yet.
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wfp master

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Re: Would you make the decision to close your business.....
« Reply #38 on: March 23, 2020, 02:45:52 pm »
I have to say business should NOT be as usual at this time, everyone should feel out of their comfort zone at the moment.

If you look at the stats of the other countries it's clear the way the UK is going in terms of a spike and being completely overwhelmed like Italy by people not adhering to the simple Government rules.

A lockdown will be necessary; I believe the Government are doing all they can to avoid this but so many people are just carrying on and spreading this throughout the UK like wildfire. People need to stay at home and think about the NHS and the many people affected by this virus, there are many other users of the NHS such as cancer patients of all ages, heart attacks etc that will all suffer as a consequence of this.

We all need to work together, stay at home, save the NHS.
the government are NOT doing enough  to avoid this thats way people are still going to work on packed trains buses ect. no work no money for lots  of people.

The Jester of Wibbly

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Re: Would you make the decision to close your business.....
« Reply #39 on: March 23, 2020, 02:48:43 pm »
discrimination against the self employed.

Treat everyone fairly and everyone will work together.
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