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RPCCS

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Re: is everyone carrying on as normal
« Reply #40 on: March 19, 2020, 08:06:19 am »
Had my first sort of cancellation today, a small stately home that has been divided into individual office suites. 3 floors inside and out, usually do one floor each month, just had a call to say please do outside only this time..Was due to do some carpet cleaning for them next week and that has been out on hold. Totally understandable though.
Cheers Rich

p1w1

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Re: is everyone carrying on as normal
« Reply #41 on: March 19, 2020, 08:20:10 am »
If the government are wanting people to catch it to build up an immunity against it to help stop the spread, shouldn't only the vulnerable groups be the ones forced to self isolate at the moment as they will be the ones who will put the strain on the NHS  and the lesser risk people who more then likely wouldn't need treatment carry on as normal as possible and just isolate if they get the symptoms. The ones not having to isolate could be the people who help others who have too.
Personally I think the ones who are higher risk and are more likely to need NHS care have the same responsibility to isolate as the ones who have flu-like symptoms are having too.


nathankaye

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Re: is everyone carrying on as normal
« Reply #42 on: March 19, 2020, 12:53:55 pm »
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RPCCS

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Re: is everyone carrying on as normal
« Reply #43 on: March 20, 2020, 10:45:42 pm »
Picked up 3 new jobs today, didn't canvas them. One bloke came up to the van when I was having my dinner and asked for a price,I went and did the job and his neighbour came out and asked, earlier a neighbour a few doors up from a job I was doing on another street asked me after I petted her dog. I have a message printed up for my customers saying.
" in order to minimize contact during corona virus, please leave money on windowsill or doorstep, close window or door aand I will leave any change thank you"
Cheers Rich

AuRavelling79

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Re: is everyone carrying on as normal
« Reply #44 on: March 21, 2020, 06:01:48 am »
It won't surprise me if/when the UK numbers of CV continue to rise exponentially - reaching Italian proportions - then window cleaning will be seen as non-essential work and closed down.

If the government doesn't "ban it" then by the end of March social pressure will cause many cancellations.

Even though we know we can easily minimise contact - just imagine all the elderly and vulnerable, the parents of kids and the workers at home seeing us swanning around in our vans washing windows when they can hardly take bonzo for a crap in the park.
It's a game of three halves!

deeege

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Re: is everyone carrying on as normal
« Reply #45 on: March 21, 2020, 06:11:01 am »
It won't surprise me if/when the UK numbers of CV continue to rise exponentially - reaching Italian proportions - then window cleaning will be seen as non-essential work and closed down.

If the government doesn't "ban it" then by the end of March social pressure will cause many cancellations.

Even though we know we can easily minimise contact - just imagine all the elderly and vulnerable, the parents of kids and the workers at home seeing us swanning around in our vans washing windows when they can hardly take bonzo for a crap in the park.

That’s exactly how i see it going. I don’t have a massive domestic round anyway but I hated doing them last week with most people working from home. Next week will be even worse with all the kids being off and it will get progressively worse from now on.

Luckily I’ve got a full week of commercial that I can do next week else I’m not sure I’d have done my domestics. I’m just not hard faced enough to have the ‘carry on regardless’ attitude whilst all around me is falling to bits.
"....and it's lend me ten pounds, I'll buy you a drink, and mother wake me early in the morning."

Owenhargreavesmidf

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Re: is everyone carrying on as normal
« Reply #46 on: March 21, 2020, 08:14:37 am »
Been helping old pensioners of mine all week, picked up a new customer yesterday aswel

davids3511

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Re: is everyone carrying on as normal
« Reply #47 on: March 21, 2020, 09:03:26 am »
It won't surprise me if/when the UK numbers of CV continue to rise exponentially - reaching Italian proportions - then window cleaning will be seen as non-essential work and closed down.

If the government doesn't "ban it" then by the end of March social pressure will cause many cancellations.

Even though we know we can easily minimise contact - just imagine all the elderly and vulnerable, the parents of kids and the workers at home seeing us swanning around in our vans washing windows when they can hardly take bonzo for a crap in the park.

That’s exactly how i see it going. I don’t have a massive domestic round anyway but I hated doing them last week with most people working from home. Next week will be even worse with all the kids being off and it will get progressively worse from now on.

Luckily I’ve got a full week of commercial that I can do next week else I’m not sure I’d have done my domestics. I’m just not hard faced enough to have the ‘carry on regardless’ attitude whilst all around me is falling to bits.
Not having a go,  I think you talk a lot of sense but you are no different just because you're doing commercial. Cant see how that makes you less 'hard faced'. You are carrying on as normal.

Re: is everyone carrying on as normal
« Reply #48 on: March 21, 2020, 09:32:09 am »
I worked yesterday as normal apart from self cancelling 3 jobs which required going in to people's properties (  one was due this Monday ). Plus checked with all my shops yesterday of which 3 were not open so they are on hold. A large % of my round are front only domestic terraced town houses. Close contact is not needed and bacs payments are the norm. However lockdown is now imminent. I'd expect government to be compiling an extensive list of who can and cannot continue to work. Until that happens I'll continue responsibly. I'll have to respectfully take any knock backs and just move on to the next.

JackieW

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Re: is everyone carrying on as normal
« Reply #49 on: March 21, 2020, 10:05:53 am »
It won't surprise me if/when the UK numbers of CV continue to rise exponentially - reaching Italian proportions - then window cleaning will be seen as non-essential work and closed down.

If the government doesn't "ban it" then by the end of March social pressure will cause many cancellations.

Even though we know we can easily minimise contact - just imagine all the elderly and vulnerable, the parents of kids and the workers at home seeing us swanning around in our vans washing windows when they can hardly take bonzo for a crap in the park.

As usual I find myself agreeing with you, which is very unfortunate in this instance.

lee_dewing

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Re: is everyone carrying on as normal
« Reply #50 on: March 21, 2020, 11:15:23 am »
Yes we will be affected financially
How hard and quickly I do not know🙇🏻‍♂️

It’s mad in away, social distancing, self isolation.

But you now can’t get online food deliveries for 2 weeks.

So everyone is queuing to get into supermarkets.

So it’s a large social gathering?🤔🦠

It’s an impossible situation
Where no one really has answers.

Testing kits are coming out so I see that it’s what a case of what better off being Ill with Coronavirus

So you can have a card to show
I’ve had it and can’t catch again 🤔
It’s flu it changes every year

There is no cure for Flu

There is a Flu 💉 vaccine
But you are injected with whatever strain is best guessed to help.

I think we will be all mass vaccinated
In the next month or so with a breakthrough vaccine
That isn’t really anything much different to what’s about.

Swine flu killed around 5000 people in 2009.

Not sure of Italy and China’s death
Toll yet but sure there not at those numbers.

It’s a very sad state of affairs at present I can understand elderly and more vulnerable are worried
Having Asthma as Deege
It’s on my mind 🏃🦠

But I do believe the Media and social media have made things worse

It’s all about restoring confidence now and probably somewhere soon they’ll be a lock in for 2 weeks

Which really isn’t as your queueing at supermarkets
Queueing for diesel
Walking your dog
picking up prescriptions

I wonder if this will change window cleaning to more like America?

Not monthly but as customers want you 2 - 4 times a year 🤔

Did a one off yesterday she wanted all round
Did front only, as needed to fit in that days customers.

She has been working from home on computer so noticed windows
She is 30 something and nice house and car £12 for large fronted house easily affordable before killer virus 🦠

she asked me 5 + years ago
But wouldn’t have a regular service

Took her money yesterday £18
And said monthly front £12
Not interested.

Are we going to be more window cleaners less frequently at higher prices

That also offer pressure washing
Gutter clearing

Upvc cleaning more to fill the gaps of less frequent window cleaning services

Worrying times 🤔🙇🏻‍♂️
More increased competition also 🤔
I was an out of work printing industry causality 15 years ago

Stay well everyone 🏃🦠

Lee
Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work.     - Aristotle

deeege

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Re: is everyone carrying on as normal
« Reply #51 on: March 21, 2020, 11:20:33 am »
It won't surprise me if/when the UK numbers of CV continue to rise exponentially - reaching Italian proportions - then window cleaning will be seen as non-essential work and closed down.

If the government doesn't "ban it" then by the end of March social pressure will cause many cancellations.

Even though we know we can easily minimise contact - just imagine all the elderly and vulnerable, the parents of kids and the workers at home seeing us swanning around in our vans washing windows when they can hardly take bonzo for a crap in the park.

That’s exactly how i see it going. I don’t have a massive domestic round anyway but I hated doing them last week with most people working from home. Next week will be even worse with all the kids being off and it will get progressively worse from now on.

Luckily I’ve got a full week of commercial that I can do next week else I’m not sure I’d have done my domestics. I’m just not hard faced enough to have the ‘carry on regardless’ attitude whilst all around me is falling to bits.
Not having a go,  I think you talk a lot of sense but you are no different just because you're doing commercial. Cant see how that makes you less 'hard faced'. You are carrying on as normal.

I think you’ve misunderstood me mate. I mean ‘hard faced’ as in I struggled last week turning up to do domestics with people obviously worried in their homes. Questioning myself constantly whether I’m doing the right thing being there or not.

The commercial I have booked in for this week I wouldn’t really have that guilt (it’s a full week on site,  no customers to deal with)

I’ll be honest, ive found the last couple of days really tough (as have most of us) and I’m not sure I’ll get any work done even if we are allowed too.

I really think it’s going to get far far worse in the UK than anything we’ve seen in Italy and China yet and the thought of needing ventilators and not being able to get them absolutely terrifies me.

I’ve suffered with Asthma my whole life and whilst it’s a lot better now than it was when I was a kid, I spent many nights/weeks in hospital hooked up to nebulisers with breathing aids and believe me it’s a lot worse than you can ever imagine.

Sorry for the rant but my point is I’m not saying you shouldn’t do domestics. Whilst the guidelines are allowing you to go to work then go for it, just that I can’t really bring myself to do it at the moment.
"....and it's lend me ten pounds, I'll buy you a drink, and mother wake me early in the morning."

The Jester of Wibbly

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Re: is everyone carrying on as normal
« Reply #52 on: March 21, 2020, 11:37:04 am »
Never ever feel guilty of trying to earn your crust.  Remember the self emlpoyed will not get the same help as the employed.

What else would they expect?

We will only stop what we are doing if and when we go to full lockdown which will probably last a month. 

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James Styles

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Re: is everyone carrying on as normal
« Reply #53 on: March 21, 2020, 12:47:47 pm »
I’m also unsure whether to go to work Monday or just call my work off for the next few months. This feel so weird messaging the customers that I’m coming to do windows while all this is going on, I also think quite a few of them will ask me to leave it or cancel altogether. I’m honestly not sure what to do.

Shrek

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Re: is everyone carrying on as normal
« Reply #54 on: March 21, 2020, 01:33:12 pm »
We have a friend who owns a beauty salon and has done very good for the last 5 years, she’s just announced she’s closed her shop for the foreseeable and managed to secure herself a job at Asda starting tonight at 10pm. She’s happy she can continue to pay her bills  :)

p1w1

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Re: is everyone carrying on as normal
« Reply #55 on: March 21, 2020, 01:34:35 pm »
I’m also unsure whether to go to work Monday or just call my work off for the next few months. This feel so weird messaging the customers that I’m coming to do windows while all this is going on, I also think quite a few of them will ask me to leave it or cancel altogether. I’m honestly not sure what to do.
You need to stop second guessing on every thing really bud and just try.
Look at it another way, last week a lot of people thought they had no job as the companies they work for cant afford to pay them. Next week these same people now know they can sit at home or whatever knowing they will at least get 80% of their monthly paycheck, whilst all the self employed can do is get into more debt with a loan or defer July tax payment and have a bigger bill at the end of the year, so maybe they will think ill still have my windows cleaned to help the sole trader out. At the end of the day who knows you just got to try your best while you can, everybody is in uncharted territory.
Personally i had no issues with customers last week, i just cracked on, the only ones i didn't do was of my choosing (elderly people that i would have contact with).

dazmond

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Re: is everyone carrying on as normal
« Reply #56 on: March 21, 2020, 01:38:18 pm »
absolutely just carry on as normal whether its domestic or commercial...some of you think too much.....the only difference is im going to  phone up some of my elderly customers the day before im due and ask them how they are and can i get them some milk,bread,etc before i call....

also im not ruling out cleaning the odd job for free or even writing off the odd small debt but i think most of my work will get cleaned/paid as normal......some will get skipped for a month or two...

dont forget the self employed are struggling according to the news.....this will work in our favour!

James what the hell are you doing?no need to "call off" your work for the next few months.....

1.no physical contact is made with the customer
2.you work on your own
3.your cleaning which is a good thing
4.most payments are made online(well mine are),ive also got a card machine for contactless payments
5.its only a small amount of money were talking about(£8-£20 jobs mainly)
price higher/work harder!

Slacky

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Re: is everyone carrying on as normal
« Reply #57 on: March 21, 2020, 01:58:01 pm »
I’m also unsure whether to go to work Monday or just call my work off for the next few months. This feel so weird messaging the customers that I’m coming to do windows while all this is going on, I also think quite a few of them will ask me to leave it or cancel altogether. I’m honestly not sure what to do.

Have you ever thought of trying to tell your head to f*** off?

I picked up a 3 - 4 day pressure washing job about an hour or so ago. The guy asked me to do it this week or next week. Guaranteed work with the right attitude, in a secluded location, out in the sticks, customer happy and accepting to have a tradesman on his property. I’ll turn up, and crack on in secluded bliss.


Terrible though innit, he did say they wouldnt come outside to talk to me. How rude!


Slacky

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Re: is everyone carrying on as normal
« Reply #58 on: March 21, 2020, 02:05:48 pm »
All I know is when I work I work in isolation.

James Styles

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Re: is everyone carrying on as normal
« Reply #59 on: March 21, 2020, 02:34:36 pm »
I’m just overthinking it all, yes I would like my negative thinking to f**k off lol I’m gonna carry on, as mentioned we ain’t got the support that employed people have been given.