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johnny bravo

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deisal or petrol van now
« on: March 05, 2020, 11:15:35 pm »
What are the changes coming into effect regarding diesel vans  with emmisions etc. in a few years     Is it worthwhile  looking @ petrol vans if needed  for the future if looking to update

dazmond

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Re: deisal or petrol van now
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2020, 07:54:27 am »
The problem with petrol van's are they usually dont have many available and the payload is usually lower..I'd go diesel if I were you....

price higher/work harder!

Michael Peterson

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Re: deisal or petrol van now
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2020, 10:39:49 am »
i agree with dazmond, does adblue and all that help with all this ?

RPCCS

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Re: deisal or petrol van now
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2020, 11:29:16 am »
Ad blue is a diesel system cleaner normally fitted to buses and trucks,but now being introduced to taxis, I believe a lot of vans now have the system too.
Petrol vans are pretty hard to come by unless you are looking at Berlingo size. The likes of Transits and similar size vans don’t do petrol, unless you buy brand new.  It’s going to be electric from 2035; but what the greenies have overlooked is where is all the power going to come from for the electric charging points.
Cheers Rich

zesty

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Re: deisal or petrol van now
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2020, 01:11:15 pm »
Almost all new vans are adblue, more money, more cost, all for nothing!

The. Climate. Has. Always. Changed. And. Always. Will.

 ;D

NBwcs

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Re: deisal or petrol van now
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2020, 03:02:31 pm »
Do a search on auto van trader and you'll find about 14500 diesel and only approx 250 petrol of which some listings aren't even vans. All my works within a 3 mile radius and my mechanic told me I'd be better getting a petrol but a decent sized petrol van is  like looking for rocking horse poo.

Rayleigh Window Cleaning Services

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Re: deisal or petrol van now
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2020, 03:11:50 pm »
Ad blue does help with emissions resulting in up to 90% water vapour coming out the exhaust.

Yes there is a cost to this.

Status Check

Re: deisal or petrol van now
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2020, 03:45:41 pm »
£12 per 5000 miles. Transit Customs.

AuRavelling79

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Re: deisal or petrol van now
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2020, 10:12:42 am »
Unless I regularly travelled in a congestion anti diesel zone I'd stick with diesel. Exception being if I could get away with a low payload and low daily mileage. But then electric is becoming more viable.
It's a game of three halves!

johnny bravo

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Re: deisal or petrol van now
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2020, 11:02:57 am »
is there a year registration when Adblue has been installed on vans.    how can you check if a van has Adblue installed/         These add ons mean more expense in years to come ive heard.       Same as DPF Filters getting messed up .   if not topped up regularly


dazmond

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Re: deisal or petrol van now
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2020, 12:41:21 pm »
is there a year registration when Adblue has been installed on vans.    how can you check if a van has Adblue installed/         These add ons mean more expense in years to come ive heard.       Same as DPF Filters getting messed up .   if not topped up regularly

not all vans have adblue...mines a 17 plate...connect L2 240
price higher/work harder!

johnny bravo

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Re: deisal or petrol van now
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2020, 04:53:10 pm »
Some good deals on  ford vans when I have just looked.      im too used to my drivers side door on my dispatch atm     access to this side when parked on my driveway,  fill tank up etc

DeLuce

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Re: deisal or petrol van now
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2020, 02:26:40 pm »
If the engine is Euro6 category, then it’s an Adblue.
I could be wrong, but this is the case with Transit Custom.

dazmond

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Re: deisal or petrol van now
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2020, 08:07:33 am »
If the engine is Euro6 category, then it’s an Adblue.
I could be wrong, but this is the case with Transit Custom.

Nope...your wrong....mines a euro 6 and no need to top up with adblue
price higher/work harder!

Spruce

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Re: deisal or petrol van now
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2020, 09:00:27 am »
If the engine is Euro6 category, then it’s an Adblue.
I could be wrong, but this is the case with Transit Custom.

Nope...your wrong....mines a euro 6 and no need to top up with adblue

PSA seem to have gone down the Adblue route. Other manufacturers have gone down the regenerative braking route.
Most manufacturers using Adblue have an Adblue filler cap next to the diesel filler cap.

I'm pretty certain that Ford have gone down the regenerative braking route.

This 62 plate Boxer van I now have has a DPF filter. I don't do many long trips and have no idea when regen is working. It just does it automatically, no warning lights on the dash etc.
The dpf system is working as there isn't any soot on the exhaust pipe; its clean. Not like the previous van without a dpf filter. MOT says particle emissions are as per the info plate in the engine bay.
 
Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

Spruce

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Re: deisal or petrol van now
« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2020, 09:03:31 am »
If the engine is Euro6 category, then it’s an Adblue.
I could be wrong, but this is the case with Transit Custom.

Nope...your wrong....mines a euro 6 and no need to top up with adblue

Daz, yours is a Transit Connect. It could well be that the Custom uses different methods to meet emission standards.

I've looked at the owner's manual for a 2018 Ford Custom. It tells me that the Adblue tank holds 22 liters.
I haven't looked closely enough but I can't see where its filler is located.

Ford have 2 engines apparently in the Custom - a 2.0l Eco and a 2.2 Tdci. It could also be that the Adblue filler is for one and not the other.

Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

Scrimble

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Re: deisal or petrol van now
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2020, 09:32:34 am »
so what if the van has ad blue? I never understand how some people are so  full of fear.

my new Fiat Doblo has ad blue and so far in 5k miles I have poured 1 bottle into it at £12, its covered under a 5 year warranty so there won't be any issues

EandM

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Re: deisal or petrol van now
« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2020, 09:38:14 am »
so what if the van has ad blue? I never understand how some people are so  full of fear.

my new Fiat Doblo has ad blue and so far in 5k miles I have poured 1 bottle into it at £12, its covered under a 5 year warranty so there won't be any issues

Primary issue with the Ford Ad BLue is that it gives you a mileage countdown to a point at where it won't start without refilling.
That's fine until you refill it and it doesn't realise it's been refilled - typically occurs below 4c.
It is possible to reset but it often involves a visit to a dealer - which tends to be expensive.
It's been causing a few problems of the Ranger Forums.

johnny bravo

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Re: deisal or petrol van now
« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2020, 11:55:08 am »
its no problem if you can top up yourself,     but if the engine management is computerised to go into limp mode  when it reaches a certain mileage or level  needs re setting then if you have to get a mechanic to look at it , nightmare ,     

there are certain areas in a van you just cannot reach.      you may need special tools to use ,


KS Cleaning

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Re: deisal or petrol van now
« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2020, 02:51:12 pm »
If the engine is Euro6 category, then it’s an Adblue.
I could be wrong, but this is the case with Transit Custom.

Nope...your wrong....mines a euro 6 and no need to top up with adblue

Daz, yours is a Transit Connect. It could well be that the Custom uses different methods to meet emission standards.

I've looked at the owner's manual for a 2018 Ford Custom. It tells me that the Adblue tank holds 22 liters.
I haven't looked closely enough but I can't see where its filler is located.

Ford have 2 engines apparently in the Custom - a 2.0l Eco and a 2.2 Tdci. It could also be that the Adblue filler is for one and not the other.
The Custom has used the 2.0 litre engine since 2016, the 2.2 duratorq engine was used prior to 2016. The Adblue filler is located behind the fuel flap right next to the fuel filler.