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Simon Trapani

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Re: Thise who use a univalve
« Reply #20 on: February 29, 2020, 10:08:42 am »
Because ive been trying out various means of controlling waterflow. I would get a univalve but it seems the connection between the pole hise and the reel hose is left to drag on the ground, which i definitely dont want.

Otherwise the univalve seems ideal, hiwever the fact the connection drags around on the ground deters me from getting one,

Ive just fitted a new tap to my pole anyway, that seems to be the best of both worlds. Excellent water flow control which is what im after.

So you have a tap on your pole with a loop Matt?

Each to their own but I've not worked like that for many years since the aquadaptor and then the univalve came out.......IMO its much better....
.....

Yes the connector gets dragged along the ground but I use rectus26 fittings and they last ages and very rarely come apart when working.....its better than having a loop of hose on my pole for sure.....

When you use a Univalve and you pick up your connector between your pole hose and reel hose to move to the next location on the house you're cleaning you make your own loop.

I tried working last week by dragging the hose round with those foam golf-balls on the join, they still catch on everything that they possibly could.

I just pick it up by the connector if I’m going round a corner or similar. Otherwise I just give it a sharp tug towards me. Any connector will catch on certain corners/car tyres etc.

Dave Willis

Re: Thise who use a univalve
« Reply #21 on: February 29, 2020, 11:55:04 am »
Oh yes we have got all the bugs out of it now.
First only cost about 5 pound to make fits on any belt.
No faffing around pulling your hose ON/OFF.
Hose never drag on ground or get's hooked up on any thing.
No extra hose around your feet. NO TRIPPING HOSES ON THE GROUND.
If the brass water switch fails hasn't yet but if it does replace it 5 minute job. for about $2  think that's about 1 Pound. maybe less.
Anyway  let you use what you think best. ;D ;D

Same as a holster and tap. Just don’t make the connection from tap and reel hose too long and the connector is off the ground. Don’t think many of us can be bothered with the cowboys pommel for excess hose to be honest. Flick the poppers open on the holster to release the tap.
That’s just about it.

Dry Clean

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Re: Thise who use a univalve
« Reply #22 on: February 29, 2020, 12:44:00 pm »
Shown this a while back everyone bagged me out.
And now it seems  not to bad idea. ;D ;D
At least not dragging the hose connection on the ground getting hooked on things. ::)roll ::)roll :o :o
Also all you need is the one ON/OFF switch on your belt for all your poles.
NOT one  switch for each pole you have LOL.
https://youtu.be/qoZU_KsGEpE

What a joke......by the time you ve faffed about with that I'll have cleaned a whole house and I'll be onto my next job........I hose connector dragging along the floor is not an issue for me......

Agreed, if you're going to do a video on a tap at least make sure its not leaking. lol

H MAN

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Re: Thise who use a univalve
« Reply #23 on: February 29, 2020, 09:02:59 pm »
Oh yes we have got all the bugs out of it now.
First only cost about 5 pound to make fits on any belt.
No faffing around pulling your hose ON/OFF.
Hose never drag on ground or get's hooked up on any thing.
No extra hose around your feet. NO TRIPPING HOSES ON THE GROUND.
If the brass water switch fails hasn't yet but if it does replace it 5 minute job. for about $2  think that's about 1 Pound. maybe less.
Anyway  let you use what you think best. ;D ;D

Same as a holster and tap. Just don’t make the connection from tap and reel hose too long and the connector is off the ground. Don’t think many of us can be bothered with the cowboys pommel for excess hose to be honest. Flick the poppers open on the holster to release the tap.
That’s just about it.


As said this was prototype and all the bugs are out of it now.
Of cause some people can not see pass that (the big picture.)
And noticed from all the posts lately.
It also seems that the Unvalve has few short coming as well.

Here's  someone else that uses this system and also tried the Univalve as well.
UNIVALVE v OTHER??
And at the 330 mark give you the pros and cons.
NKservices water flow Controllers for wfp
https://youtu.be/94Y3DeiDXuk





 

P @ F

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Re: Thise who use a univalve
« Reply #24 on: March 01, 2020, 02:20:28 am »
That blokes on here too Herman  ;D ;D
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

H MAN

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Re: Thise who use a univalve
« Reply #25 on: March 01, 2020, 02:25:44 am »
That blokes on here too Herman  ;D ;D
That's correct he is also saying what I have been saying.in regard to water switches.

H MAN

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Re: Thise who use a univalve
« Reply #26 on: March 01, 2020, 03:37:42 am »
NKservices water flow Controllers for wfp
https://youtu.be/94Y3DeiDXuk

Relating to the water control valve he is using on there belt and works as good as our set up.
But this one we have it attached to the belt differently  otherwise the  water valve ball switch works the same as any other.
Just does not flop around on the belt.
Check the video can attach your ball valve switch. easily.
https://youtu.be/eJi4y3Dgxn8




Dave Willis

Re: Thise who use a univalve
« Reply #27 on: March 01, 2020, 07:40:46 am »
Lovely! But who wants to wear a belt and valve all day and who wants to fit a belt for every job?
With a holster you never remove it. Mine has been on my belt for ten years, doesn’t get in the way, weighs very little, never need to uncouple the hose so connectors last for ages. Can jump in and out of the van without removing it. Some people can’t see past the nose on their face.

Dave Willis

Re: Thise who use a univalve
« Reply #28 on: March 01, 2020, 07:49:27 am »
The advantage of a Univalve is eliminating that loop of pole hose that tends to tangle with the reel hose. The disadvantage would be loss of water control (it’s either on or off). In the early days some suppliers offered hooks to attatch to the pole to wind excess hose onto (hardly ideal).

H MAN

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Re: Thise who use a univalve
« Reply #29 on: March 01, 2020, 07:49:55 am »
Lovely! But who wants to wear a belt and valve all day and who wants to fit a belt for every job?
With a holster you never remove it. Mine has been on my belt for ten years, doesn’t get in the way, weighs very little, never need to uncouple the hose so connectors last for ages. Can jump in and out of the van without removing it. Some people can’t see past the nose on their face.
Good on you as said if works for you that great. ;)
Everyone has there way of doing things that work for them.  ;D ;D ;D

H MAN

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Re: Thise who use a univalve
« Reply #30 on: March 01, 2020, 07:54:51 am »
The advantage of a Univalve is eliminating that loop of pole hose that tends to tangle with the reel hose. The disadvantage would be loss of water control (it’s either on or off). In the early days some suppliers offered hooks to attatch to the pole to wind excess hose onto (hardly ideal).
Pretty clear that you have not seen this video
Here's  someone else that uses this system and also tried the Univalve as well.
UNIVALVE v OTHER??
And at the 330 mark give you the pros and cons.
NKservices water flow Controllers for wfp
https://youtu.be/94Y3DeiDXuk

Shrek

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Re: Thise who use a univalve
« Reply #31 on: March 01, 2020, 08:33:52 am »
The advantage of a Univalve is eliminating that loop of pole hose that tends to tangle with the reel hose. The disadvantage would be loss of water control (it’s either on or off). In the early days some suppliers offered hooks to attatch to the pole to wind excess hose onto (hardly ideal).
Pretty clear that you have not seen this video
Here's  someone else that uses this system and also tried the Univalve as well.
UNIVALVE v OTHER??
And at the 330 mark give you the pros and cons.
NKservices water flow Controllers for wfp
https://youtu.be/94Y3DeiDXuk

You and nK are the same kind of people , no one copies both your ideas though  ;D

Tristan R Clean

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Re: Thise who use a univalve
« Reply #32 on: March 01, 2020, 08:48:32 am »
Oh dear🙁.
I remember when my father in law worked with me
he swore by the tap on a belt thingy.
He also converted a clx gardener pole that had worn out clamps and levers with some roof rack plastic screw numptys . You had to turn and turn until tight. After a month he complained that he was having wrist problems and couldn’t think why😁😜. Some ideas over complicate and hinder when there is already a perfectly good solution that works.

T

Tristan R Clean

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Re: Thise who use a univalve
« Reply #33 on: March 01, 2020, 08:51:40 am »
+ I don’t even think it’s a ‘ Whatever works for you argument’
It’s simply against the laws of physics 😁

Dave Willis

Re: Thise who use a univalve
« Reply #34 on: March 01, 2020, 09:07:59 am »
Herman, I’ve seen both videos, but you always post utter garbage and refuse to listen when people point out that it’s either been done already, doesn’t work or is in the dark ages. Why don’t you take on board any of these things?
As I said it’s not practical to wear lumps of plastic with levers attached all day and neither is it practical to change belts every time you jump out of the van. NK’s version is basically a tap on a holster, been done for at least twelve years, just a larger lever than most prefer to use, he’s having to support a little extra weight by connecting the microbore directly to the tap
If you’re  continually going to post your latest inventions you have to be prepared for criticism. If you listened then maybe you could come up with a truly great design. 

H MAN

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Re: Thise who use a univalve
« Reply #35 on: March 01, 2020, 09:30:50 am »
Herman, I’ve seen both videos, but you always post utter garbage and refuse to listen when people point out that it’s either been done already, doesn’t work or is in the dark ages. Why don’t you take on board any of these things?
As I said it’s not practical to wear lumps of plastic with levers attached all day and neither is it practical to change belts every time you jump out of the van. NK’s version is basically a tap on a holster, been done for at least twelve years, just a larger lever than most prefer to use.


So do you agree with what NKs said in relations to the Pros & Cons Univalve and the tap on a holster,??

P @ F

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Re: Thise who use a univalve
« Reply #36 on: March 01, 2020, 10:28:30 am »
My lever eliminated the loop some years ago but it never took off , hardly surprising really as it was pretty pants  ;D
I did the honourable thing and ooofed it into the corner of the shed , it might still be there somewhere  ;D

https://youtu.be/486NlvtAWes
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

H MAN

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Re: Thise who use a univalve
« Reply #37 on: March 01, 2020, 10:36:30 am »
I use gorilla tape on the metal rectus fittings. which I renew every now and again and just drag it. Totally hands free
So this is what you like to know??
Anyway  if you do not want your hose fitting to drag on the ground or hook up on things.
Coil extra hose from  connection  to pole .
Put on purpose made hook devise on belt.
Hose is held on by strip of Velcro.  so not to fall off.
Or the hose connection from dragging on the ground. 



H MAN

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Re: Thise who use a univalve
« Reply #38 on: March 01, 2020, 10:42:16 am »
My lever eliminated the loop some years ago but it never took off , hardly surprising really as it was pretty pants  ;D
I did the honourable thing and ooofed it into the corner of the shed , it might still be there somewhere  ;D

https://youtu.be/486NlvtAWes
Yes remember seeing that one was that before or after Unger brought there version out of this?? ::)roll ::)roll

Granny

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Re: Thise who use a univalve
« Reply #39 on: March 01, 2020, 11:55:05 am »
I've always had a "loop" it's no problem at all once you get used to it, most problems happen when you start rushing about and don't watch what's happening with the hose..
I have a tap on a movable sleeve on the bottom section of the pole, it slides up and down the entire length and turns any way around so it's always just where you want it.
Being able to control the flow from low to high and turn it completely off with my thumb on the tap whilst cleaning far outweighs the problem of the "loop" to me.