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Quote from: dazmond on February 03, 2020, 03:59:52 pmOh dear god!! 🙄Heres mine.....
Oh dear god!! 🙄Heres mine.....
Why don't you have a quick google before making stupid comments?
yep....paid my local garage £80 to fit my tank.....i couldnt be arsed to fit it myself......
Daz, they’ve just found a random bit of metal they had knocking about and put a crappy bolt through it...surely you can see that?!£80, I’d have done that for a pint for you; I’d of found you a bit of metal that didn’t have rust for a second pint I’m not a tart with the whole tank thing but please don’t start preaching it’s solid just because you tried to push it a bit!!!!
Quote from: Spruce on February 03, 2020, 03:19:35 pmQuote from: The Big Kahuna on February 03, 2020, 11:20:45 amThanks Spruce. I'm looking at the newer shape Berlingo ( well 2010 onwards anyhow ). My reason for asking is after looking at the price of facelifts compact systems I'm thinking of diy'ing my own framed ( skid tank or similar) system that everything is attached to. The idea being that even if I change vans again in the future, swapping it out will be quick and easy. So am looking at easy fitting options and ideas to help with that.There was an advert GrippaTank put up in 2012 regarding their tank systems. They are against drilling through the chassis."A poorly fixed system will react in an accident like a massive cheese slicer - shredding your vehicle floor. Hence, our system features large spreader plates for the underside of the vehicle (these are bonded as well as bolted) together with solid T-LOK fixings that slot in to a lateral rail.At MIRA, the system was bolted into the floor pan not the chassis (the weakest part of the van), hurled along the HyGe Sled and passed with flying colours. Our spreader plates and T-LOK technology act like a giant sandwich (there seems to be a real food theme developing here!) thus making the system and the vehicle one complete unit.We do not fix into the chassis as this could compromise the vehicles integrity.I realise that tank fixing can be a very emotional subject among some. For example, the MOT inspector I have used for the past 20 years will fail a van if there is a single hole drilled through the chassis. My current van has gone to 2 other MOT stations since I have owned it because its a class 7 van. My old van was class 4. Neither of the 2 testers had any issue with bolts going through the chassis with spreader plates.So it might be worthwhile to see if there is a similar issue with your MOT inspector. Its a grey area and left to the individual inspector as to whether he feels a van's chassis has been compromised by drilling a couple of holes in it.If there is an issue then you can only use large spreader plates.I like the idea of a tank bolted to a skid. Omnipole used to favour that. Streamline still do tanks on skids as far as I know. The only consideration is that they will be much heavier and take up valuable payload.I can't find the photos I promised but will continue looking. back in the day we had a vw t5 with a truck mounted carpet cleaner fitted in the rear and vw voided the vans warranty as they bolted three of the bolts throw the chassis when it was fitted , they also said that doing this could and will stop the van acting like i should when in a crash as the crumple zones would be comprised , all it took was a sharp eyed warranty guy at a dealer to spot this so be warned if there new lucky for us we didnt need to claim on it and the van left us 6 year later with 200k on the clock
Quote from: The Big Kahuna on February 03, 2020, 11:20:45 amThanks Spruce. I'm looking at the newer shape Berlingo ( well 2010 onwards anyhow ). My reason for asking is after looking at the price of facelifts compact systems I'm thinking of diy'ing my own framed ( skid tank or similar) system that everything is attached to. The idea being that even if I change vans again in the future, swapping it out will be quick and easy. So am looking at easy fitting options and ideas to help with that.There was an advert GrippaTank put up in 2012 regarding their tank systems. They are against drilling through the chassis."A poorly fixed system will react in an accident like a massive cheese slicer - shredding your vehicle floor. Hence, our system features large spreader plates for the underside of the vehicle (these are bonded as well as bolted) together with solid T-LOK fixings that slot in to a lateral rail.At MIRA, the system was bolted into the floor pan not the chassis (the weakest part of the van), hurled along the HyGe Sled and passed with flying colours. Our spreader plates and T-LOK technology act like a giant sandwich (there seems to be a real food theme developing here!) thus making the system and the vehicle one complete unit.We do not fix into the chassis as this could compromise the vehicles integrity.I realise that tank fixing can be a very emotional subject among some. For example, the MOT inspector I have used for the past 20 years will fail a van if there is a single hole drilled through the chassis. My current van has gone to 2 other MOT stations since I have owned it because its a class 7 van. My old van was class 4. Neither of the 2 testers had any issue with bolts going through the chassis with spreader plates.So it might be worthwhile to see if there is a similar issue with your MOT inspector. Its a grey area and left to the individual inspector as to whether he feels a van's chassis has been compromised by drilling a couple of holes in it.If there is an issue then you can only use large spreader plates.I like the idea of a tank bolted to a skid. Omnipole used to favour that. Streamline still do tanks on skids as far as I know. The only consideration is that they will be much heavier and take up valuable payload.I can't find the photos I promised but will continue looking.
Thanks Spruce. I'm looking at the newer shape Berlingo ( well 2010 onwards anyhow ). My reason for asking is after looking at the price of facelifts compact systems I'm thinking of diy'ing my own framed ( skid tank or similar) system that everything is attached to. The idea being that even if I change vans again in the future, swapping it out will be quick and easy. So am looking at easy fitting options and ideas to help with that.
Daz, you could put a tank in with no bolts at all and it will feel solid. You are relying on the strength of a tiny allen bolt head to stop your tank flying through the cab. It’s not much better than a popper! Seriously, there’s not even a washer underneath it. That’s one of the worst bodges I’ve ever seen in twelve years on this forum.