[Jay Le Huray]

I have just got one of these and I must say it's a great bit of kit once you get used to the twist action to turn the water flow on and off and in theory would save you water
https://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/gooseneck-valve-2465.html

[lee_dewing]

Yeh only problem is it won’t work with Gardiners swivel 🙆🏻‍♂️

So will stick with univalve, even though this isn’t perfect.

Sleeve ejector and pole end insert that Male rectus sits on are not robust and break too easily

I’m pretty careful
And getting p’d off with this 🤯

[JandS]

I have one if anybody wants to do a free trial....you can even have it if you like it.
Used for about 2 hours.

[M & C Window Cleaning]

For me the Univalve has proved to be the most versatile hand hardwearing of the two types of valve, though it has to be said I've not tried the new version of the Gardiner gooseneck valve. I did use the original one and also found a way to use it with the gardiner swivel.

Though the tension was adjustable, my main issue with the original gooseneck valve was that it would not operate under just the weight of the pole and brush even on the easiest setting. It always required a little lateral force on the pole to keep the brush on the glass whislt operating the valve. This was not a problem working on ground floor windows but put significant stress on the pole when operating the valve with the pole fully extended. The result was that I eventually broke a perfectly good pole section on my SLX when my gooseneck valve stuck.

As a consequence, I went back to using the Univalve.

[Jay Le Huray]

I have one if anybody wants to do a free trial....you can even have it if you like it.
Used for about 2 hours.

I don't think 2 hours of use would be enough to get used to it,
it took me a days work to get used to the wrist action (something I think a few on here would be an expert at... LOL)

[֍Winp®oClean֍]

The Univalve is up there with the best WFP innovations of all time IMO. The only surprise is that it isn't a Gardiner product as these accolades usually do belong to them! However, I do believe Peter Fogwill may have been involved in the early days of this neck valve so it's maybe not a total surprise!

[JandS]

2 hours of constant tightening, slackening it off tweaking it here and there told me all I needed to know and I like Gardiners stuff.
Consider the Univalve I use....I fitted it and it worked...says it all.

[H MAN]

Have put this up a while back it is now perfected re modified,
Good thing is you don't have to have a  water switching device in every WFP.   
https://youtu.be/qoZU_KsGEpE

[wayne m]

Has to be the uni-valve for me easy and simple to use and I also use the gardiner swivel neck so this would be no good for me.

[Smudger]

Univalve by far the best - I was always a bit disappointed the gardiners won't endorse their use.

I had Peters aquataps - they were good but long term put lots of stress on the pole and caused lots to wear  - when I tried the gardiners version I wasn't impressed.

Darran

[dazmond]

you cant beat the univalve IMO...its just the best water control device out there for your regular 22ft/25ft poles...i have got the gardiners gooseneck and its on my xtreme 47 at the moment but i think im gonna take it off as it adds weight to the pole(esp at 40 ft!)and its awkward to turn on and off at these heights...ill just go back to a carbon gooseneck and no water control on this pole as it only gets used around 10 times a month.....

[Alex Gardiner]

Univalve by far the best - I was always a bit disappointed the gardiners won't endorse their use.

I had Peters aquataps - they were good but long term put lots of stress on the pole and caused lots to wear  - when I tried the gardiners version I wasn't impressed.

Darran

The only reason we do not endorse the univalve is that we are aware of the amount of damage that the use of them can cause to the components around them. We spend quite a bit of our customer service time assisting clients who have fitted them (as a modification) and then have other components fail - such as pole hose, push-fit connections, brush fittings etc.

Whilst we currently supply our twist gooseneck valve we are also working on a pull-action version of the gooseneck valve that will not have the same associated component damage issues we find the univalve can cause to other WFP components.

In the meantime we have designed a new standard gooseneck that will isolate the hard pulling action of using a univalve - this is in testing at the moment and will be released soon.

[Alex Gardiner]

The Univalve is up there with the best WFP innovations of all time IMO. The only surprise is that it isn't a Gardiner product as these accolades usually do belong to them! However, I do believe Peter Fogwill may have been involved in the early days of this neck valve so it's maybe not a total surprise!

Hi PW

The original gooseneck valve we released did use Peter Fogwill's 'Aquatap technology' inside    However we found in large scale use that this mechanism was not reliable enough and became very difficult to provide warranty cover for. (having said that some clients are still using them 4 years on)

After a couple of years absence we then released the latest version of our Twist-Action gooseneck valve with a new patented valve inside and we have found that this is far more reliable. The new version also has adjustable tension to allow it to work with different length poles and types of brush.

[Alex Gardiner]

I have just got one of these and I must say it's a great bit of kit once you get used to the twist action to turn the water flow on and off and in theory would save you water
https://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/gooseneck-valve-2465.html

Glad you like it Jay 

The twist gooseneck valve does take a day or so to get used to, but once your working method is modified it allows a very seamless water control method -  no need to let go of the pole at all in use. Personally I find that working with the twist valve speeds me up by a noticeable 5-10% on most work.

[M & C Window Cleaning]

The only reason we do not endorse the univalve is that we are aware of the amount of damage that the use of them can cause to the components around them. We spend quite a bit of our customer service time assisting clients who have fitted them (as a modification) and then have other components fail - such as pole hose, push-fit connections, brush fittings etc.

Whilst we currently supply our twist gooseneck valve we are also working on a pull-action version of the gooseneck valve that will not have the same associated component damage issues we find the univalve can cause to other WFP components.

In the meantime we have designed a new standard gooseneck that will isolate the hard pulling action of using a univalve - this is in testing at the moment and will be released soon.

The above is a mystery to me

I have to say that since discovering your range of poles, goosenecks, brushes and brush fittings many years ago, I have never felt the need to look elsewhere for these tools.
I have also used the Univalve together with all of these products, including your green PU pole hose, since it was introduced and not had any significant problems or breakages due to the Univalve that were not easily put right with a little thought.

I’ve had two JG connectors pull apart in three years (cheap as chips and I always carry spares anyway) Fixed in seconds
If a hose has pulled out of a connector more than handful of times (usually only happens with hot water) I’ve fitted a JG hose tail to the hose. Again a simple fix

Even the issues with the Univalve and jet capsules were resolved following your advice.

The swivel and jet capsules together is another matter and a challenge I’m currently working on. (A different topic I know)

I am finding that using a swivel is problematic with the jet capsules especially in the colder weather. I have very little need for using hot water where I work, but I’m finding that as the temp drops the jet hoses become less flexible and this is pulling the capsules apart as I use the swivel. Lengthening the jet hoses helps but hasn’t completely resolved the issue. I’m going to try a softer hose option shortly to see if that resolves the issue

[Spruce]

I have just got one of these and I must say it's a great bit of kit once you get used to the twist action to turn the water flow on and off and in theory would save you water
https://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/gooseneck-valve-2465.html

Glad you like it Jay 

The twist gooseneck valve does take a day or so to get used to, but once your working method is modified it allows a very seamless water control method -  no need to let go of the pole at all in use. Personally I find that working with the twist valve speeds me up by a noticeable 5-10% on most work.

You still have time to work on window cleaning Alex? Wow.

I appreciate that it gives you an opportunity to test and evaluate new product, but it must take you all your time running the business.

[Alex Gardiner]

You still have time to work on window cleaning Alex? Wow.

I appreciate that it gives you an opportunity to test and evaluate new product, but it must take you all your time running the business.

It is only a small amount of work each month now - mainly training my youngest Daughter & Son on 'Live Contracts' so they build up a  working knowledge of how to window clean (and earn some money  )

Nothing beats working with a prototype or new products to get a real feel for it and how it functions.

[Slacky]

The Univalve is up there with the best WFP innovations of all time IMO. The only surprise is that it isn't a Gardiner product as these accolades usually do belong to them! However, I do believe Peter Fogwill may have been involved in the early days of this neck valve so it's maybe not a total surprise!

Hi PW

The original gooseneck valve we released did use Peter Fogwill's 'Aquatap technology' inside    However we found in large scale use that this mechanism was not reliable enough and became very difficult to provide warranty cover for. (having said that some clients are still using them 4 years on)

After a couple of years absence we then released the latest version of our Twist-Action gooseneck valve with a new patented valve inside and we have found that this is far more reliable. The new version also has adjustable tension to allow it to work with different length poles and types of brush.

Alex, i was a fan of the original gooseneck twist valve. But they just didnt last long enough so I gave up on them.

Since then Ive adopted the use of a swivel gooseneck, which is great, allows for greater flexibility and ease of use when working.

But are the two compatible?

I bought one of the updated twist goose necks last week in the hope theyre more reliable, to try with a swivel neck, its like trying to juggle spaghetti, any ideas if a different or improved technique would make them compatible?

Thankyou.

[Alex Gardiner]

Alex, i was a fan of the original gooseneck twist valve. But they just didnt last long enough so I gave up on them.

Since then Ive adopted the use of a swivel gooseneck, which is great, allows for greater flexibility and ease of use when working.

But are the two compatible?

I bought one of the updated twist goose necks last week in the hope theyre more reliable, to try with a swivel neck, its like trying to juggle spaghetti, any ideas if a different or improved technique would make them compatible?

Thankyou.

The Twist Gooseneck Valve and the swivel goosenecks are not really compatible which is why we do not recommend the two being used together.

Some clients manage to make it work by balancing the adjuster on the valve so that it is set slightly stiffer than the swivel gooseneck this way the swivel can be used all the time, but to operate the valve the brush has to be swivelled and then twisted some more.