[Haz]

Next ten years will be no different than the last ten years every other month new idiots I mean company’s start up and every other month some of them disappear   but we are still there going stronger and stronger.

There’s always going to be someone cheaper or dearer than you forever and always next ten years last ten years no different.

Just do what you do and don’t give a f*** about the rest then your business will grow

I love the attitude  all positivity  thats what its all about  keep it up

[nathankaye]

Haz, obviously this is your opinion and your entitled to it, however it is based on limited knowledge of your own surrounding areas.  Also dont take it personally, but you have ones on here who have been doing this a whole lot longer than yourself with vast experience and knowledge.
Yes wfp makes it easier for people to try their luck and get into this line of work but and its a big BUT,  it makes very little difference as this has always been the case and there is more to it than just offering a cheap under cutting price.  If this was the case, all of us who have been doing so for longer than 7 yrs would have no business what so ever.   Ask any of us if we know of many one man bands in the areas where we work which charge very little for cleaning windows.  We can all tell of many which we know and have known over the many years!  I know in two villages where I work, that I am double and triple some guys n little groups who can knock out houses really fast ie 3 on a house.   
Even UK window cleaning company offers free cleans to coax ones to them and so far I have lost ermmmmmm   0  customers to them.

Yes technology is changing and apps improve but not many will fall for it. Whats the name of that new one, where customers receive gifts and rewards from their window cleaner via this app/group?   I dont think that is taking off too great at the moment and i dont think it ever will.   Plenty of things can change in ten years, granted but plentybof things wont change ie people want a good reliable services and have spent years prior putting up with false economies and sales gimmicks and so not everyone will search out the cheapest window cleaner or the cheapest thing because they have learnt what in reality the cheapest "whatever" gets them!

So, im also one who has a different opinion.

[reflection]

Didn’t realise you couldn’t curse I was thinking there I definitely didn’t say idiots I said c***s  lol.

Sometime new (idiots) do you a favour because sometimes you loose business to them just because people want a change or because they are tight and want to save 50p but then after a month or two they realise you are better and the new start is a useless (idiot) so they then ask you back and your like

yeah no problem that will be £15 please

But you only used to be £10

Yeah but I hadn’t put your price up in over five years for being a loyal customer, you are now a new customer

You have now gained more over the space of the year.

[Haz]

Haz, obviously this is your opinion and your entitled to it, however it is based on limited knowledge of your own surrounding areas.  Also dont take it personally, but you have ones on here who have been doing this a whole lot longer than yourself with vast experience and knowledge.
Yes wfp makes it easier for people to try their luck and get into this line of work but and its a big BUT,  it makes very little difference as this has always been the case and there is more to it than just offering a cheap under cutting price.  If this was the case, all of us who have been doing so for longer than 7 yrs would have no business what so ever.   Ask any of us if we know of many one man bands in the areas where we work which charge very little for cleaning windows.  We can all tell of many which we know and have known over the many years!  I know in two villages where I work, that I am double and triple some guys n little groups who can knock out houses really fast ie 3 on a house.   
Even UK window cleaning company offers free cleans to coax ones to them and so far I have lost ermmmmmm   0  customers to them.

Yes technology is changing and apps improve but not many will fall for it. Whats the name of that new one, where customers receive gifts and rewards from their window cleaner via this app/group?   I dont think that is taking off too great at the moment and i dont think it ever will.   Plenty of things can change in ten years, granted but plentybof things wont change ie people want a good reliable services and have spent years prior putting up with false economies and sales gimmicks and so not everyone will search out the cheapest window cleaner or the cheapest thing because they have learnt what in reality the cheapest "whatever" gets them!

So, im also one who has a different opinion.

I totally understand what your saying 100% but in this modern day times are moving fast and i can see in like 10 years there will be window cleaning comparison sites lmaoo... i might be going over the top but its just a thought lol  but i really doubt that will happen  ;Dbut u never know with the times moving so fast...

In  a good few decades everything will be computerized.....you will not even see cash in hand...all money will dissapear.. everything will be from a click of a button.

Thats the way i see the future mate hence my post , yes i may of exaggerated on some points but im just being futuristic 

[deeege]

Yes 7 years experience, probably achieved more in 7 years then what u could achieve in 14 years  

Hows that pal when you’ve  admittedly got a round full of rock bottom prices? Hardly anything I’d want to be bragging about tbh.

[G Griffin]

We have just entered a new decade and this window cleaning game will see a drastic change in the next 10 years... Here is what to expect in the next 10 year... some people will disagree with me and some may agree with me but i know my market well and have been in the business for over 7 years and have plenty of knowledge about the window cleaning industry.

* People will be shopping about with window cleaners just like they do with phone contracts / insurance etc
* People do not care at this present time about there window cleaning price but in the next decade you will see people change window cleaner just for the price, the economy will be changing heavy in the next decade and the window cleaning industry will be a lot more competitive this coming decade
* WFP is not a skilled trade - its on the same level as a car wash, no qualifications required a little start up capital is all is required , car washes are now at rock bottom charging rock bottom prices and window cleaning will follow in them steps.
* We have customers who are pretty old and they will come and tell us... "oh i had a window cleaner offering it for cheaper but i told him to sod off"  the older generation has a lot of loyalty but the generations as they go along decade by decade the loyalty gets lesser and lesser.... in this day and age loyalty is a dying culture.
* You will get window cleaning companies competiting with each other just like Asda and Tescos compete with each other.
* Big outfits with 10+ vans will find it tough to compete with 1 man band prices
* Traditional window cleaners will become very rare and a thing of the past
* 3/4  window cleaners will not know how to clean a window traditionally

Window cleaning is accessible by anyone due to the low cost start up, why would someone want to go to college and do brick laying when they can just get into window cleaning and earn more money in the long run..... All they need to do is watch a few youtube videos and bit of research and they are good to go, my town has had 20+ window cleaners starting up in the past 12 months, there is plenty of work out there but more and more window cleaning firms will be coming in to every city/town in the UK.... this will drive the prices down. the amount of start ups in every town in the UK is high... but the amount of start ups in the next 5 years will be 4/5 times higher then it has been in the past 5 years if that makes sense.

20 years ago car washes were good money but now car washes are a tough business to be in because the polish/kurdish have come over and driven the prices down, this will happen with reach and wash window cleaning especially with the cheap systems you can buy on todays market.

Spotless water will also play a big part in the next decade, purified water is more easily accessible then ever and they also encourage people to start a window cleaning venture.
Job center is now also advising people to start a window cleaning business due to the low start up cost.

I am based in the North East of England, our prices are already rock bottom so i cant see it getting much worse for us, but for all the Southerners out there who charge £25.00 for a 3 bedroom house they will see 1 man band unsigned vans kitted out with reach and wash systems doing it for £10.00-£12.00 instead of there £25.00

This is my OPINION of the next decade... good luck for the new decade people   

I predicted all that seven years ago.

[Haz]

Yes 7 years experience, probably achieved more in 7 years then what u could achieve in 14 years  

Hows that pal when you’ve  admittedly got a round full of rock bottom prices? Hardly anything I’d want to be bragging about tbh.

If my prices were rock bottom then i would be the cheapest in my area meaning i would not of lasted for 7 years     there is a lot of window cleaners who are cheaper then me  .... there is also window cleaners with higher prices then me, im just in the middle  , not cheap or expensive    so to be honest i would not class my prices as rock bottom  I dont come on here to brag but all im saying is that i probably have achieve more in 7 years then ^^^ has in 14 years enough said 

[Haz]

We have just entered a new decade and this window cleaning game will see a drastic change in the next 10 years... Here is what to expect in the next 10 year... some people will disagree with me and some may agree with me but i know my market well and have been in the business for over 7 years and have plenty of knowledge about the window cleaning industry.

* People will be shopping about with window cleaners just like they do with phone contracts / insurance etc
* People do not care at this present time about there window cleaning price but in the next decade you will see people change window cleaner just for the price, the economy will be changing heavy in the next decade and the window cleaning industry will be a lot more competitive this coming decade
* WFP is not a skilled trade - its on the same level as a car wash, no qualifications required a little start up capital is all is required , car washes are now at rock bottom charging rock bottom prices and window cleaning will follow in them steps.
* We have customers who are pretty old and they will come and tell us... "oh i had a window cleaner offering it for cheaper but i told him to sod off"  the older generation has a lot of loyalty but the generations as they go along decade by decade the loyalty gets lesser and lesser.... in this day and age loyalty is a dying culture.
* You will get window cleaning companies competiting with each other just like Asda and Tescos compete with each other.
* Big outfits with 10+ vans will find it tough to compete with 1 man band prices
* Traditional window cleaners will become very rare and a thing of the past
* 3/4  window cleaners will not know how to clean a window traditionally

Window cleaning is accessible by anyone due to the low cost start up, why would someone want to go to college and do brick laying when they can just get into window cleaning and earn more money in the long run..... All they need to do is watch a few youtube videos and bit of research and they are good to go, my town has had 20+ window cleaners starting up in the past 12 months, there is plenty of work out there but more and more window cleaning firms will be coming in to every city/town in the UK.... this will drive the prices down. the amount of start ups in every town in the UK is high... but the amount of start ups in the next 5 years will be 4/5 times higher then it has been in the past 5 years if that makes sense.

20 years ago car washes were good money but now car washes are a tough business to be in because the polish/kurdish have come over and driven the prices down, this will happen with reach and wash window cleaning especially with the cheap systems you can buy on todays market.

Spotless water will also play a big part in the next decade, purified water is more easily accessible then ever and they also encourage people to start a window cleaning venture.
Job center is now also advising people to start a window cleaning business due to the low start up cost.

I am based in the North East of England, our prices are already rock bottom so i cant see it getting much worse for us, but for all the Southerners out there who charge £25.00 for a 3 bedroom house they will see 1 man band unsigned vans kitted out with reach and wash systems doing it for £10.00-£12.00 instead of there £25.00

This is my OPINION of the next decade... good luck for the new decade people   

I predicted all that seven years ago.

No wonder i havent got a medal    u beat me to it !

[G Griffin]

And one of our Northern brethren is planning on conkering the south. He's already taken his boot laces out. I don't think William Wallace ever stopped in a Premier Inn though; can you imagine all that woad on the bedding?
The North will rise again because the south have had it too easy.

[Owenhargreavesmidf]

Yes 7 years experience, probably achieved more in 7 years then what u could achieve in 14 years  

Hows that pal when you’ve  admittedly got a round full of rock bottom prices? Hardly anything I’d want to be bragging about tbh.

If my prices were rock bottom then i would be the cheapest in my area meaning i would not of lasted for 7 years     there is a lot of window cleaners who are cheaper then me  .... there is also window cleaners with higher prices then me, im just in the middle  , not cheap or expensive    so to be honest i would not class my prices as rock bottom  I dont come on here to brag but all im saying is that i probably have achieve more in 7 years then ^^^ has in 14 years enough said 

What have you achieved in 7 years? how many van and staff and vans do you have?

[Haz]

Yes 7 years experience, probably achieved more in 7 years then what u could achieve in 14 years  

Hows that pal when you’ve  admittedly got a round full of rock bottom prices? Hardly anything I’d want to be bragging about tbh.

If my prices were rock bottom then i would be the cheapest in my area meaning i would not of lasted for 7 years     there is a lot of window cleaners who are cheaper then me  .... there is also window cleaners with higher prices then me, im just in the middle  , not cheap or expensive    so to be honest i would not class my prices as rock bottom  I dont come on here to brag but all im saying is that i probably have achieve more in 7 years then ^^^ has in 14 years enough said 

What have you achieved in 7 years? how many van and staff and vans do you have?

I have just the 1 van  plus no staff yet but hopefully i will be in a position to take staff on soon 

[Slacky]

 Not with rock bottom prices you wont be able to.

[Spruce]

“7 years experience” you say?

Your probably classed as a newby on this forum.

I clearly am a newbie as i have under 20 posts  and yes over 7 years experience ,  how long have u been licking windows for Mr CIU God

No you aren't a newbie Haz 

What was your posting name on this forum in a previous life? I can't remember.

[Slacky]

No he’s not a  newbie.

Im sure we all know who he is.

[Shrek]

Yes 7 years experience, probably achieved more in 7 years then what u could achieve in 14 years  

Hows that pal when you’ve  admittedly got a round full of rock bottom prices? Hardly anything I’d want to be bragging about tbh.

If my prices were rock bottom then i would be the cheapest in my area meaning i would not of lasted for 7 years     there is a lot of window cleaners who are cheaper then me  .... there is also window cleaners with higher prices then me, im just in the middle  , not cheap or expensive    so to be honest i would not class my prices as rock bottom  I dont come on here to brag but all im saying is that i probably have achieve more in 7 years then ^^^ has in 14 years enough said 

What have you achieved in 7 years? how many van and staff and vans do you have?

I have just the 1 van  plus no staff yet but hopefully i will be in a position to take staff on soon 

In 7 years you’re still a 1 man band with crap prices and how is this achieving more than most on here then 

[Owenhargreavesmidf]

Yes 7 years experience, probably achieved more in 7 years then what u could achieve in 14 years  

Hows that pal when you’ve  admittedly got a round full of rock bottom prices? Hardly anything I’d want to be bragging about tbh.

If my prices were rock bottom then i would be the cheapest in my area meaning i would not of lasted for 7 years     there is a lot of window cleaners who are cheaper then me  .... there is also window cleaners with higher prices then me, im just in the middle  , not cheap or expensive    so to be honest i would not class my prices as rock bottom  I dont come on here to brag but all im saying is that i probably have achieve more in 7 years then ^^^ has in 14 years enough said 

What have you achieved in 7 years? how many van and staff and vans do you have?

I have just the 1 van  plus no staff yet but hopefully i will be in a position to take staff on soon 

So your a one man band and your not in the position to take another staff on and u been doing it for seven years u say? I have one full time staff with me and i been doing it for five years!

[Haz]

Not with rock bottom prices you wont be able to.

Mr Slacker if u look at my previous comments it does say i am not the cheapest in my local area and i am also not the most expensive either...i sit in the middle at just the average mark, i have a lot of window cleaners in my area offering cheaper prices then myself so i cant be that rock bottom?  I  have certain  targets and i will continue to hit them week in and week out as i have been for the past 12 months  so dont tell me what i will be able to do and what i cant 

[Haz]

Yes 7 years experience, probably achieved more in 7 years then what u could achieve in 14 years  

Hows that pal when you’ve  admittedly got a round full of rock bottom prices? Hardly anything I’d want to be bragging about tbh.

If my prices were rock bottom then i would be the cheapest in my area meaning i would not of lasted for 7 years     there is a lot of window cleaners who are cheaper then me  .... there is also window cleaners with higher prices then me, im just in the middle  , not cheap or expensive    so to be honest i would not class my prices as rock bottom  I dont come on here to brag but all im saying is that i probably have achieve more in 7 years then ^^^ has in 14 years enough said 

What have you achieved in 7 years? how many van and staff and vans do you have?

I have just the 1 van  plus no staff yet but hopefully i will be in a position to take staff on soon 

In 7 years you’re still a 1 man band with crap prices and how is this achieving more than most on here then 

So your telling me my prices are crap.. wow u seem to know more about my business then i actually do ? haha my prices are actually average  to be honest  and yes im still a 1 man band but i think i can get my second van on the road within the next 12 months hopefully 

[Haz]

Yes 7 years experience, probably achieved more in 7 years then what u could achieve in 14 years  

Hows that pal when you’ve  admittedly got a round full of rock bottom prices? Hardly anything I’d want to be bragging about tbh.

If my prices were rock bottom then i would be the cheapest in my area meaning i would not of lasted for 7 years     there is a lot of window cleaners who are cheaper then me  .... there is also window cleaners with higher prices then me, im just in the middle  , not cheap or expensive    so to be honest i would not class my prices as rock bottom  I dont come on here to brag but all im saying is that i probably have achieve more in 7 years then ^^^ has in 14 years enough said 

What have you achieved in 7 years? how many van and staff and vans do you have?

I have just the 1 van  plus no staff yet but hopefully i will be in a position to take staff on soon 

So your a one man band and your not in the position to take another staff on and u been doing it for seven years u say? I have one full time staff with me and i been doing it for five years!

Well done to you and your achievement in 5 years, what is the secret ? i would love to know

[Shrek]

So what have you achieved then? Comin on here bragging you’ve achieved more with your business in 7 years than someone can in 14 years , we are all waiting