[Lee Pryor]

Of course it cant be done...... I should know. 

[G Griffin]

You have to largely ignore whats been said by other cleaners to a point.

You can only work with what youve got in your area.

Its no good someone telling you to do 6 large houses a day to do £400 one man if your local market wont sustain it.

Theres no houses big enough in my city to have a round of those and even if there was theres no way i would get 50/60 quid a pop for them. My biggest house is £30!

Likewise its ok me saying do 40 houses 2 man but maybe you cant get work as compact as that.

Just do what you can with what youve got, prices DO vary massively from north to south

That's a good way to start a post.
So I did

[G Griffin]

Make them work longer hours and drop their hourly rate.
Boris Johnson'll sort that out for you.

[NWH]

LEE I was being sarcastic to the comment above my previous one,I know it can be.

[Lee Pryor]

errrr.......... so was I. Clearly I know it can be done.....................Ive done it!

[Simon Trapani]

If Lee’s ten or so  guy’s are roughly turning that over a day then fair play I hold my hands up & say I was wrong.

I just think your average window cleaner would struggle to turn that over day in day out. But that’s what puts Lee apart from most of us. And also probably why I’ve only got as far as one employee & two vans in total.

Think I need to think bigger!

[NWH]

If you’ve the right work you can do better with 1 employee than you can with 2 or 3,again all depends on the work you have.

[Jonny 87]

If Lee’s ten or so  guy’s are roughly turning that over a day then fair play I hold my hands up & say I was wrong.

I just think your average window cleaner would struggle to turn that over day in day out. But that’s what puts Lee apart from most of us. And also probably why I’ve only got as far as one employee & two vans in total.

Think I need to think bigger!

It does also depend very much on area. ( I know people on here will say it doesn’t)

But pryors average price wouldn’t cut it in my area. Definitely not for 10 vans worth anyway.

An expensive window cleaner is £10 for a three bed semi in my area. No way would a lot of people pay £15.

In other areas £15 for a 3 bed semi is probably average.

Window cleaning is definitely more profitable in different parts of the country. Especially on a large scale. 

[Richard iSparkle]

If Lee’s ten or so  guy’s are roughly turning that over a day then fair play I hold my hands up & say I was wrong.

I just think your average window cleaner would struggle to turn that over day in day out. But that’s what puts Lee apart from most of us. And also probably why I’ve only got as far as one employee & two vans in total.

Think I need to think bigger!

It does also depend very much on area. ( I know people on here will say it doesn’t)

But pryors average price wouldn’t cut it in my area. Definitely not for 10 vans worth anyway.

An expensive window cleaner is £10 for a three bed semi in my area. No way would a lot of people pay £15.

In other areas £15 for a 3 bed semi is probably average.

Window cleaning is definitely more profitable in different parts of the country. Especially on a large scale.

what's your area out of interest?

[Lee Pryor]

12 vans

There are many things that make it possible. Price is just one of them.

My team are out the door at 6.30 am 5 days a week regardless of weather ect. I doubt many single cleaners do that.

Big 700L tanks each so you can work with high flow all day and not run out.

Jobs being routed in the best order.

Incentive and effort based pay structure with monthly bonuses, as well as a minimum amount of work done each month as part of employment contract.

Quite expensive live traffic update sat nav

Employing the right person in the first place is essential. Some find it easy some don't.

And of course the price of each job.

[Jonny 87]

If Lee’s ten or so  guy’s are roughly turning that over a day then fair play I hold my hands up & say I was wrong.

I just think your average window cleaner would struggle to turn that over day in day out. But that’s what puts Lee apart from most of us. And also probably why I’ve only got as far as one employee & two vans in total.

Think I need to think bigger!

It does also depend very much on area. ( I know people on here will say it doesn’t)

But pryors average price wouldn’t cut it in my area. Definitely not for 10 vans worth anyway.

An expensive window cleaner is £10 for a three bed semi in my area. No way would a lot of people pay £15.

In other areas £15 for a 3 bed semi is probably average.

Window cleaning is definitely more profitable in different parts of the country. Especially on a large scale.

what's your area out of interest?

South lanarkshire, scotland........... I love where I live,  but it’s not the easiest place to average £15 per property.

I definitely agree with Lee that there’s many ways that he has made his business more efficient and profitable. Price is just one factor..... but I’d also say it’s the most important.

[Dry Clean]

If Lee’s ten or so  guy’s are roughly turning that over a day then fair play I hold my hands up & say I was wrong.

I just think your average window cleaner would struggle to turn that over day in day out. But that’s what puts Lee apart from most of us. And also probably why I’ve only got as far as one employee & two vans in total.

Think I need to think bigger!

It does also depend very much on area. ( I know people on here will say it doesn’t)

But pryors average price wouldn’t cut it in my area. Definitely not for 10 vans worth anyway.

An expensive window cleaner is £10 for a three bed semi in my area. No way would a lot of people pay £15.

In other areas £15 for a 3 bed semi is probably average.

Window cleaning is definitely more profitable in different parts of the country. Especially on a large scale.

what's your area out of interest?

South lanarkshire, scotland........... I love where I live,  but it’s not the easiest place to average £15 per property.

I definitely agree with Lee that there’s many ways that he has made his business more efficient and profitable. Price is just one factor..... but I’d also say it’s the most important.

Jonny I would say when it come to nationwide averages your prices would be a lot closer than you would get on the CIU, HMRC tax returns would certainly back this up, when I number crunched Lees business plan his employee yearly earning potential  went from around £64k to £80k plus overnight simply because when all his costs where added up with the lower amount he was barely breaking  even, its why when it comes to earnings on here I take most of what is said with a pinch of salt.

[Dry Clean]

If Lee’s ten or so  guy’s are roughly turning that over a day then fair play I hold my hands up & say I was wrong.

I just think your average window cleaner would struggle to turn that over day in day out. But that’s what puts Lee apart from most of us. And also probably why I’ve only got as far as one employee & two vans in total.

Think I need to think bigger!

It does also depend very much on area. ( I know people on here will say it doesn’t)

But pryors average price wouldn’t cut it in my area. Definitely not for 10 vans worth anyway.

An expensive window cleaner is £10 for a three bed semi in my area. No way would a lot of people pay £15.

In other areas £15 for a 3 bed semi is probably average.

Window cleaning is definitely more profitable in different parts of the country. Especially on a large scale.

what's your area out of interest?

South lanarkshire, scotland........... I love where I live,  but it’s not the easiest place to average £15 per property.

I definitely agree with Lee that there’s many ways that he has made his business more efficient and profitable. Price is just one factor..... but I’d also say it’s the most important.

Off course it is and next would be what you would need to pay to get a decent employee, domestic window cleaning prices in my area would be similar to yours but I would still have to pay £600 to £700 a week plus benefits to get an decent employee.

[Richard iSparkle]

 when I number crunched Lees business plan his employee yearly earning potential  went from around £64k to £80k plus overnight simply because when all his costs where added up with the lower amount he was barely breaking  even,

 

when you number crunched Lees business plan!?!?!? 

 

[Frankybadboy]

LEE I was being sarcastic to the comment above my previous one,I know it can be.

you dont have a very good memory 

[Lee Pryor]

 when I number crunched Lees business plan his employee yearly earning potential  went from around £64k to £80k plus overnight simply because when all his costs where added up with the lower amount he was barely breaking  even,

 

when you number crunched Lees business plan!?!?!? 

 

I know its pure gold isnt it. We all have to remember that Dry clean knows everything about everybody elses business. Crunched the numbers ha! At no point did I ever say my team each did only £64k a year. In fact most do near to or over £7k a month. I have proved this a few times on youtube videos where I filmed our screens on cleaner planner.

Unlike Dry clean I can and often do back up/prove the things I say here and elsewhere. And unlike Dry clean I am one of the few people here that can give real answers or advice on threads like this. Because ive been there and done it which he hasn't and that's a fact not an opinion.

Its funny, we have a goal to be at 20 vans in 4/5 years turning £1.7 million. Im quite sure that when that happens Dry clean will still be here telling me its all wrong and it doesnt add up and we make no money. He used to wind me right up on here, but in the end I realised he actually has no first hand experience in the things he writes on these type of threads. Just a negative opinion based on nothing. He is a 10 reasons why not to do something kind of person. For the people that take a positive view it is very possible to do all these things regardless of where you are in the country.

[G Griffin]

12 vans

There are many things that make it possible. Price is just one of them.

My team are out the door at 6.30 am 5 days a week regardless of weather ect. I doubt many single cleaners do that.

Big 700L tanks each so you can work with high flow all day and not run out.

Jobs being routed in the best order.

Incentive and effort based pay structure with monthly bonuses, as well as a minimum amount of work done each month as part of employment contract.

Quite expensive live traffic update sat nav

Employing the right person in the first place is essential. Some find it easy some don't.

And of course the price of each job.

Forget Boris Johnson; Pryor'll sort it.

[Dry Clean]

 when I number crunched Lees business plan his employee yearly earning potential  went from around £64k to £80k plus overnight simply because when all his costs where added up with the lower amount he was barely breaking  even,

 

when you number crunched Lees business plan!?!?!? 

 

Its not hard to work out a few expenses Richard, VAT wages and other costs, when it comes to earnings I would never accuse anybody of talking nonsense without doing this first.

[Dry Clean]

 when I number crunched Lees business plan his employee yearly earning potential  went from around £64k to £80k plus overnight simply because when all his costs where added up with the lower amount he was barely breaking  even,

 

when you number crunched Lees business plan!?!?!? 

 

I know its pure gold isnt it. We all have to remember that Dry clean knows everything about everybody elses business. Crunched the numbers ha! At no point did I ever say my team each did only £64k a year. In fact most do near to or over £7k a month. I have proved this a few times on youtube videos where I filmed our screens on cleaner planner.

Unlike Dry clean I can and often do back up/prove the things I say here and elsewhere. And unlike Dry clean I am one of the few people here that can give real answers or advice on threads like this. Because ive been there and done it which he hasn't and that's a fact not an opinion.

Its funny, we have a goal to be at 20 vans in 4/5 years turning £1.7 million. Im quite sure that when that happens Dry clean will still be here telling me its all wrong and it doesnt add up and we make no money. He used to wind me right up on here, but in the end I realised he actually has no first hand experience in the things he writes on these type of threads. Just a negative opinion based on nothing. He is a 10 reasons why not to do something kind of person. For the people that take a positive view it is very possible to do all these things regardless of where you are in the country.

You just have to look at this wibble, lets be honest here guys, if any of us where really doing very well would we give a toss if nobody on this forum believed it, hitting a raw nerve comes to mind.

[Richard iSparkle]

 when I number crunched Lees business plan his employee yearly earning potential  went from around £64k to £80k plus overnight simply because when all his costs where added up with the lower amount he was barely breaking  even,

 

when you number crunched Lees business plan!?!?!? 

 

Its not hard to work out a few expenses Richard, VAT wages and other costs, when it comes to earnings I would never accuse anybody of talking nonsense without doing this first.

it'd be better to spend time crunching numbers of your own business and work out how you can hit better profits yourself