[Richard iSparkle]

Two people doing £600 a day?

That can't be possible unless you had some commercial work or a few massive houses.

This thread makes me feel like a massive c

hi jay,

its very possible.

i average £400 a day one man per van on domestics. not every day as some rounds are incomplete, but some are over £400

we've been doing £600 on domestics a day with 2 people  for years (before i split the guys up last year

i pay my guys who can do this £90 a day fully employed. they've been with me for over 5 years

it depends on the average price per house, but also your setup and your training. i could only train guys to hit these figures when i could do it myself. before i could do it myself (i started off just office based) the guys were telling me its impossible to hit £300 a day

some people will say it depends on what area of the country you are in.. but i have people in my same area who think they cant change over £10 a house

hope this is food for thought.

R

Knocking out £400 worth of work for £90 a day, how brain dead would you need to be not come home from work each day feeling like a total mug.

"Once again you're confusing opinions with evidence , what you have given is opinions" DryClean


well they obviously dont think the same as you.

employing isn't just about paying the highest wage. there are a number of factors we all use to decide upon whether a job is good for them.

they have had other options but for various reasons the job I offer works well for them

Most factories local to me offer £600 or more a week/ sick pay pensions and so on so and still find it hard enough to recruit so if can get reliable guys to clean windows for that sort of money then fair play to you, more so in an area where £400 is possible to do daily which would lead me to believe that a shortage of decent employment wouldn't be a factor.

to be honest i dont know what the factories around me pay, but i understand in my area over £10 and hour for unskilled manual work is decent enough, and then i suppose the terms of employment work for them. they work 4 long days a week and 3 off. i look after them.

i guess we are well paid compared to delivery drivers and its an easier job with more security and more independence

[jay moley]

Those doing £400 or above for a single man:

Are any corners being cut, like not bothering to clean the frames or not wiping down downstairs sills?

Another question I suppose:

How do you ensure you clean a house in the quickest possible time?

Cheers

[NWH]

You don’t need to cut any corners m8 you need to do good sized houses and you can average 6-8 houses a day.

[NWH]

If you are having to clean 20 + houses a day you’ll end up cutting corners,it’s a wheat and chaff game its shifting sand to constantly month on month year on year replace lower paying work with work that’s always worth more for less time spent cleaning.
I’ve always said if you have 10 £50 plus jobs why can’t you go and get another 10 or 50 or a 100 houses the same,you may have the same amount to do tomorrow as me money wise but I might be able to get mine done in half the time leaving me enough energy to do it day on day,Wednesday or Thursday might come and you’ve had enough coz you are running.
I wished I’d known when I was at school a bloke said to me once the most important muscle is the one between your ears,the second one that will give you as much pleasure is the one between you’re legs lol.

[Shrek]

If you are having to clean 20 + houses a day you’ll end up cutting corners,it’s a wheat and chaff game its shifting sand to constantly month on month year on year replace lower paying work with work that’s always worth more for less time spent cleaning.
I’ve always said if you have 10 £50 plus jobs why can’t you go and get another 10 or 50 or a 100 houses the same,you may have the same amount to do tomorrow as me money wise but I might be able to get mine done in half the time leaving me enough energy to do it day on day,Wednesday or Thursday might come and you’ve had enough coz you are running.
I wished I’d known when I was at school a bloke said to me once the most important muscle is the one between your ears,the second one that will give you as much pleasure is the one between you’re legs lol.

Your cōck isn’t a muscle 

[jay moley]

If you are having to clean 20 + houses a day you’ll end up cutting corners,it’s a wheat and chaff game its shifting sand to constantly month on month year on year replace lower paying work with work that’s always worth more for less time spent cleaning.
I’ve always said if you have 10 £50 plus jobs why can’t you go and get another 10 or 50 or a 100 houses the same,you may have the same amount to do tomorrow as me money wise but I might be able to get mine done in half the time leaving me enough energy to do it day on day,Wednesday or Thursday might come and you’ve had enough coz you are running.
I wished I’d known when I was at school a bloke said to me once the most important muscle is the one between your ears,the second one that will give you as much pleasure is the one between you’re legs lol.

I can't see how you can grow a window cleaning business by only taking on high priced work. It would take ages. You have to take on a variety of priced work obviously without taking on underpriced work.

It's not as if you are going to get 10 new enquiries all from high priced work one after the other.

If you've got a full round you could be more selective and replace low priced work with high priced work. But if you don't have a full round or want to go to another van you can't turn away stuff unless it's underpriced or inconvenient work.

[Smudger]

Those doing £400 or above for a single man:

Are any corners being cut, like not bothering to clean the frames or not wiping down downstairs sills?

Another question I suppose:

How do you ensure you clean a house in the quickest possible time?

Cheers

Only NWH - he's boasted in the past the he's happy not to clean the frames on his customer houses...

it's about refining how you work, getting in the correct position to clean quickly and parking where you can reach more than one property at a time, the biggest thing my guys usually do is clean a house  then go back to the van reel in then return to the house and either knock for money or post. card - this should e done while at the house saves a journey to and from the van..
also the increase in DD - credit cards and go Cardless saves time on offing for change - mindless chit chat etc...

Darran

[NWH]

If I wanted to put another van on the road with my turnover of work I could but I’m happy at the moment with what I’m doing as I have a cleaning side to the business as well at the moment which is ticking over,I’m not interested in doing loads of 20 quid houses and running I’ve employed before and done that.
When I’m ready to do it again the work is there in a monetary way to be able to employ without the stress of not knowing whether they’ll be able to hit the right numbers if they’ve WFPoled before,I have my work so if I get behind due to weather or time off I can catch up money wise cherry picking work to make up the loss by doing larger work priced well.
I used to have 3 times the work when having employed I can now get more in my pocket doing less work than with 2 of us cleaning 2-3 times as many jobs,no point in having loads of work if it’s average because it’ll pay average.

[Richard iSparkle]

the other biggie (after equipment fixed hose reel etc) is just cleaning the window to the amount it requires..

someone posted a really good description of this a few months back..

you look at the window when you approach it and see how dirty it is and how much cleaning it'll need.

with maintenance cleans most only need a once over everything if they're being done 4 weekly... so long as you are looking out for extra dirty ones, or bird muck etc (those will need cleaning till they're done) you'll be fine

personally the first time i did over £300 a day on my own, was when i had to pickup my son from nursery for 2pm. when i went out that morning i needed to finish the round and just did every trick in the book to make sure i was finished in time.

i nailed it with enough time to have lunch with my dad defore getting my boy...

once you've got it, its easy

the simplest way to hit it would be to spend a day with a chap on here who is already doing it so you can see for yourself of course

[Crystal-clear]

NWH .If you start adult 9am and finish at 5pm 20 houses with the WFP at £20.00 so 3bed semis
Cant see How that's not possible it wouldn't be rushed its 3 an hour.
It would be hard for the bussniess owner to do that consistantly with everything else needed to be done.but an employee working solely on the glass long days is doable on regular cleans

[NWH]

There would be no point in spending a day with someone on here for the sake of it,the work someone else does might be completely different to you,you might clean 20 terrace houses at a fiver a pop and someone might have a fairly easy 100 quid house that takes half the time window cleaning is all about what type of work you have.
This is why we get conflicting opinions all the time because some are cleaning houses in other parts of the country for a fraction of what other cleaners are getting so you are classed as a boasting liar,you may have a 25 quid house you may think is a great little earner yet another cleaner may think I have jobs I can clean in the same time for 3 x the money so your 25 quid job in there eyes becomes not worth bothering with,it’s all about what jobs YOU have and clean year in year out no one can take you out and show you how it’s done you need better paying jobs and you need to be able to make your daily target easier to achieve with price.
You can’t keep going out and knocking out 20-30 jobs a day week after week why not find work that’s prices better and clean 2/3s less work,it’s not brain surgery lol.

[NWH]

I don’t start at 9 that’s the middle of the morning for me,an hour in the morning is worth 2 in the afternoon,very true that.

[NWH]

I also found that sticking religiously to a route of work limits you take all this round software etc,I do what work I know that is due that will provide the amount I want to earn on any given day-week.
I might have work due that a software programme is telling me to do tomorrow it might be paying me for example 20 quid for the day,I would rather check my records and see the weathers bad Tuesday so I’ll go and do 50 tomorrow instead because make up for the wet day I couldn’t have done much on.

[Stoots]

You have to largely ignore whats been said by other cleaners to a point.

You can only work with what youve got in your area.

Its no good someone telling you to do 6 large houses a day to do £400 one man if your local market wont sustain it.

Theres no houses big enough in my city to have a round of those and even if there was theres no way i would get 50/60 quid a pop for them. My biggest house is £30!

Likewise its ok me saying do 40 houses 2 man but maybe you cant get work as compact as that.

Just do what you can with what youve got, prices DO vary massively from north to south

[NWH]

NWH .If you start adult 9am and finish at 5pm 20 houses with the WFP at £20.00 so 3bed semis
Cant see How that's not possible it wouldn't be rushed its 3 an hour.
It would be hard for the bussniess owner to do that consistantly with everything else needed to be done.but an employee working solely on the glass long days is doable on regular cleans

No I agree but would you rather clean that work in that time or do it in just over half the time,I’m not saying you can’t do 300 if you live south of the Thames and you aren’t taking 300 a day I would say your not trying to hard you have to do the school pick up or you are just plain lazy.
I’m saying every day you get chance to do the hours with average weather,so so many window cleaners out there that start at 9-10 o’clock finish at 2-2-30 they are the ones that think it’s boasting rubbish when you say you cant earn over 150-200 a day,in there eyes no one works harder or quicker than them and charges more.

[NWH]

You have to largely ignore whats been said by other cleaners to a point.

You can only work with what youve got in your area.

Its no good someone telling you to do 6 large houses a day to do £400 one man if your local market wont sustain it.

Theres no houses big enough in my city to have a round of those and even if there was theres no way i would get 50/60 quid a pop for them. My biggest house is £30!

Likewise its ok me saying do 40 houses 2 man but maybe you cant get work as compact as that.

Just do what you can with what youve got, prices DO vary massively from north to south

Correct what you said you have to ignore most of it because what’s possible for you might not be possible for me,this is why you get so many replies saying certain things are not in anyway possible.
I could tell you what I get for certain houses- jobs you might think what a complete load of rubbish there’s no way he will be getting X for that,the simple reason you’d never get it in your area so you not believing it would understandable but that doesn’t in any way mean it’s not happening or being done.
If I told some people I knew what Pryors are taking or turning over a month they’d laugh me down the road,but it’s happening.

[Richard iSparkle]

There would be no point in spending a day with someone on here for the sake of it,

 

if you want to learn how to do something the quickest way is to find someone who is already doing it and copy them

the idea that someone in one area of the UK can't learn from someone else in a different area of the UK doing the same business is obviously ridiculous.

i'm ducking out of this chat now though. there's no point in arguing over something so blindingly obvious 

[NWH]

Why would you help someone in you’re area as regards what you are charging and how you go about it,there’s enough seagulls about sitting waiting to take food out of you’re mouth I don’t really think there’s much point in volunteering the the facts.
One thing I’ve learnt in life as well as window cleaning is trust no one that has to be well and truly earned  lol,one minute there coming round with you saying oh right oh I see the next week they are knocking on the doors lol,if I was 30 years older maybe.

[Frankybadboy]

didnt know we had so many people on here that employ 


if this, if that, and god feck me you dont employ

isn't funny when you ask about Vat it all goes quiet


smell ballsxit  

[NWH]

There we go must be rubbish talk can’t be done no way no how,I give up.