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davids3511

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How does everyone stop leaks in their vans?
« on: January 02, 2020, 08:06:25 pm »
I've tried hoselock, expensive metal hoselocks, Gardenias, Gardner's metal connectors (they actually fused together). I'm sick of a wet van, any ideas that work for more than a week?

Splash & dash

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Re: How does everyone stop leaks in their vans?
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2020, 08:17:04 pm »
I've tried hoselock, expensive metal hoselocks, Gardenias, Gardner's metal connectors (they actually fused together). I'm sick of a wet van, any ideas that work for more than a week?


We use a variety of fittings from John guest , Gardiners quick release bit like hose lock but metal fittings , don’t get leaks , just the odd bit of water now and then when connecting or disconnecting the odd fitting .

davids3511

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Re: How does everyone stop leaks in their vans?
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2020, 08:51:14 pm »
I've tried hoselock, expensive metal hoselocks, Gardenias, Gardner's metal connectors (they actually fused together). I'm sick of a wet van, any ideas that work for more than a week?


We use a variety of fittings from John guest , Gardiners quick release bit like hose lock but metal fittings , don’t get leaks , just the odd bit of water now and then when connecting or disconnecting the odd fitting .
I've got the gardiner quick release, they're just OK in my opinion. The male and female on the reel spindle actually fused together, I couldn't separate them. Could you provide a link to the John guest you use? I need some inspiration.

Splash & dash

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Re: How does everyone stop leaks in their vans?
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2020, 08:56:21 pm »
I've tried hoselock, expensive metal hoselocks, Gardenias, Gardner's metal connectors (they actually fused together). I'm sick of a wet van, any ideas that work for more than a week?


We use these on the di vessels , and pumps , and other bits and bobs , hope this helps , there are a number of different types and styles of fittings .

We use a variety of fittings from John guest , Gardiners quick release bit like hose lock but metal fittings , don’t get leaks , just the odd bit of water now and then when connecting or disconnecting the odd fitting .
I've got the gardiner quick release, they're just OK in my opinion. The male and female on the reel spindle actually fused together, I couldn't separate them. Could you provide a link to the John guest you use? I need some inspiration.

NWH

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Re: How does everyone stop leaks in their vans?
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2020, 08:58:28 pm »
John Guest everything except the connection on the reel and if it’s good quality it’ll last ages before it leaks.

davids3511

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Re: How does everyone stop leaks in their vans?
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2020, 09:04:42 pm »
I've tried hoselock, expensive metal hoselocks, Gardenias, Gardner's metal connectors (they actually fused together). I'm sick of a wet van, any ideas that work for more than a week?


We use these on the di vessels , and pumps , and other bits and bobs , hope this helps , there are a number of different types and styles of fittings .

We use a variety of fittings from John guest , Gardiners quick release bit like hose lock but metal fittings , don’t get leaks , just the odd bit of water now and then when connecting or disconnecting the odd fitting .
I've got the gardiner quick release, they're just OK in my opinion. The male and female on the reel spindle actually fused together, I couldn't separate them. Could you provide a link to the John guest you use? I need some inspiration.
Brilliant, thank you.

dazmond

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Re: How does everyone stop leaks in their vans?
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2020, 10:01:17 pm »
John guest/metal rectus 26 fittings and buying a decent reel with a high pressure brass rotary joint on the side did it for me.....I never get leaks from the side of my reel anymore......
price higher/work harder!

P @ F

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Re: How does everyone stop leaks in their vans?
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2020, 10:10:04 pm »
My van is bone dry , I use nothing expensive at all , orange and black hoselock type plastics from Varitech and brass Wickes hoselock on my reel , rectus 21 on poles
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

Spruce

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Re: How does everyone stop leaks in their vans?
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2020, 08:11:03 am »
I've tried hoselock, expensive metal hoselocks, Gardenias, Gardner's metal connectors (they actually fused together). I'm sick of a wet van, any ideas that work for more than a week?

We have used petal hoses reels from the outset which we take out of the van.
We have outside van ports with Gardiner QR hose fittings.

On each hose reel I have a brass 3/4" Hozelok tap connector.  On the hose from the van port to the hose reel I have a QR Metal hose plug with 1/2" hose barb. On the other end I still use Hozelok plastic hose connectors. I prefer Hozelok as they have 3 plastic locators where others only have 2.

I carry spare replacement O Rings on the van and occasionally lubricate them with a smear of petroleum jelly.
When we finish after each clean  we join the two ends of this hose together and that keeps the hose near enough full of water, coil it up and put it away.
I have a couple of Hozelok hose connectors that are sealed with silicone adhesive. They go on the hose reel tap connector so water doesn't drip from the hose when inside the van. We use EZ snap female stop conectors on the other end of the hose reel hose and male connectors on the pole hose.

We are still using Exceed's orange hose. The brush head is shaken to remove excess water from the bristles and the poles are put into the van brush head first.  (I have a pole rack on the side of the van with 2 plastic  gutter brackets for each pole.)
 
I then open the Univalve and as I coil the hose up the water in the hose drains onto the ground. The hose is hooked onto the closest gutter bracket.

There is still going to be a bit of condensation inside the van, especially in winter. I had to dry the roof with a towel yesterday, but the floor is usually almost dry all the time.

When I can I leave the rear doors open for the van to breath when it's parked on the driveway at home.
 
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dazmond

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Re: How does everyone stop leaks in their vans?
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2020, 08:52:33 am »
With the greatest of respect spruce(a man of your knowledge and wisdom)I cant fathom why you would take the reel out of the van and plug it into an outside port,a fixed reel is far easier on the body,just open van door and pull the hose........
price higher/work harder!

lee_dewing

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Re: How does everyone stop leaks in their vans?
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2020, 09:32:46 am »
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John Guest everything except the connection on the reel and if it’s good quality it’ll last ages before it leaks.

NWH
1/4 inch elbow fitting🤔

So thread end goes into
(shurflo pump?)

Other end takes pole hose? Or 6mm microbore hose ?

Thanks
Lee

Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work.     - Aristotle

Spruce

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Re: How does everyone stop leaks in their vans?
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2020, 10:10:13 am »
With the greatest of respect spruce(a man of your knowledge and wisdom)I cant fathom why you would take the reel out of the van and plug it into an outside port,a fixed reel is far easier on the body,just open van door and pull the hose........

I have often thought about a fixed internal hose reel. I often think of my round and if I had a fixed reel how would I park my van etc. So it is something I continually think about.

One of the local lads has fixed hose reels and he ends up pulling reams of hose out and its all over the road and the pavement. He walks right up the road way past the house he is cleaning and then doubles back knowing he has plenty of hose to get to the back windows.

This becomes more of an issue when parking in the side streets where there are hundreds of Victorian town houses in the side streets and parking is tight. With us we turn the hose reel around on the pavement in the direction we need to be in and off we go. I couldn't do that with a fixed reel.

On Tuesday we did a few houses built around a central car park. The only way is to take the hose reel to the furthest job and pull it back to the van laying down hose as we go around 6 or 7 x 90 degree bends. There is never any parking in this parking area. We have to park outside it.

At one time the insurance company wrote to us on several occasions informing us we needed to keep our doors locked when working away from the van. Leaving doors open would invalidate our insurance.

Most of the time we work in good areas but we do have a couple of customers on the edge of some rough estates. Leaving the rear doors unlocked is not recommended. When my son did deliveries, he got out of the van in a good area and on getting one parcel out of the back, some kid on a bike nicked his mobile phone out of the front. Son said it was a matter of a few seconds.

So if I did a fixed reel system i would also need a loose reel in the back and I would need rollers in the floor.
That's a big job when you give everything to do a day's work.  Most of the time my son lifts the reels in and out.


 
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lee_dewing

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Re: How does everyone stop leaks in their vans?
« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2020, 10:36:44 am »
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I would need rollers in the floor.

Yes this is what puts me off!

Not easy lot going on under van
Spare wheel, exhaust etc
Where floor rollers go would not be
The place that suits me best

Also as said Spruce
The ability to lock doors is essential I think

I have pole hose off pump which connects to reel outside van

I shut doors on pole hose easily

I have shut doors on microbore with reel inside van but not happy doing that

Probably too O.C.D but feel over time this may affect door closure

Maybe messing up door alignment 🤔
Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work.     - Aristotle

TomCrowther

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Re: How does everyone stop leaks in their vans?
« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2020, 12:55:45 pm »
I used to think the same. Bought two lots of rollers but never got around to it.
I use the electric reel, bolted upside down to the roof of the van. I work with the rear doors ajar but locked. Fixed electric reel is a big step forward. If it broke, I would avoid working until a new one arrived.

Granny

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Re: How does everyone stop leaks in their vans?
« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2020, 12:56:16 pm »
Stainless Steel Flexible hose connectors (Screwfix) along with brass Rectus 26 connectors, Rectus 26  brass elbow connectors for the reels they are a better seal than the Hozelock type elbows.
Personally I wouldn't use Hozelock  anywhere on the pressurised side of the pump.
We run two man from one pump the pressure is pretty high! ;D

davids3511

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Re: How does everyone stop leaks in their vans?
« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2020, 05:06:10 pm »
If it broke, I would avoid working until a new one arrived.
So just a normal day then?

Slash

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Re: How does everyone stop leaks in their vans?
« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2020, 05:37:49 pm »
A dry van,no chance as Ive tried everything.

Stoots

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Re: How does everyone stop leaks in their vans?
« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2020, 05:50:49 pm »
As above, i dont stop leaks just minimse them.

Protect the floor and dont worry about it, lifes too short to try and achieve the impossible.

robbo333

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Re: How does everyone stop leaks in their vans?
« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2020, 05:59:07 pm »
I keep my pipework to a minimum (probably 1.2m in the whole van), from tank to reel.
I use normal fittings but make sure the fittings are secure, so they can't move around.
I have the brass hozelock 90 degree connector on my reel and I have secured the hose leading up to it (with a cable tie attached to the hose reel) to minimise lateral movement.
I work out the side of the van (which works very well for me). It's a straight run up the custy's drive, or I can go up or down the street without any problems.
I also use 50m of reinforced pole hose on my main reel, followed by 50m of microbore. Light to pull out and reel in, but also I can shut the side door on it, without affecting water flow.
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lee_dewing

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Re: How does everyone stop leaks in their vans?
« Reply #19 on: January 03, 2020, 07:39:01 pm »
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[/I also use 50m of reinforced pole hose on my main reel, followed by 50m of microbore. ]

Robbo the 50 m pole hose off reel does it lay flat?

I’d be worried about tripping over joe public !

I’m obviously missing something 🙂
Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work.     - Aristotle