[Mr B shine]

I'm sure this has been endlessly covered but I can't  find a search feature.

 What's a good filter system for making pure from tap?
 Thank you.

[Spruce]

I'm sure this has been endlessly covered but I can't  find a search feature.

 What's a good filter system for making pure from tap?
 Thank you.

What is the tds of your tap water?
Are you on a water meter and how many liters of water a day do you need?
Do you have a facility to store water?

First purchase is a tds meter from a reputable wfp supplier.

[Mr B shine]

I'm sure this has been endlessly covered but I can't  find a search feature.

 What's a good filter system for making pure from tap?
 Thank you.

What is the tds of your tap water?
Are you on a water meter and how many liters of water a day do you need?
Do you have a facility to store water?

First purchase is a tds meter from a reputable wfp supplier.

I'm in bedford so the TDS will be high as the water round here is harder than a hardy hard thing.
 I will need to make it daily at first as there is no real storage yet.
 I don't know how much I'm going to need yet.

[Spruce]

I'm sure this has been endlessly covered but I can't  find a search feature.

 What's a good filter system for making pure from tap?
 Thank you.

What is the tds of your tap water?
Are you on a water meter and how many liters of water a day do you need?
Do you have a facility to store water?

First purchase is a tds meter from a reputable wfp supplier.

I'm in bedford so the TDS will be high as the water round here is harder than a hardy hard thing.
 I will need to make it daily at first as there is no real storage yet.
 I don't know how much I'm going to need yet.

So you need an r/o. An r/o when working efficiently will remove about 97% of the dissolved solids from your water. The remaining %ages would be polished off with resin. I would suggest a 5 or 6 liter di vessel for this. You will still need to buy a TDS meter.

The next question is to ask is how you are going to go about cleaning windows wfp.

If you need to process water quickly and directly into a tank in a van, then most systems revolve around 4040 r/o's.
If you have a storage facility and are able to store water in a garage for example, then you can use a cheaper, slower water producing r/o.

These smaller r/o's range from 50GPD to 450GPD.  The smallest you could go for IMHO is a 300GPD but I would recommend a 450gpd. (The smaller ones are used by fish keepers.)

Now 450GPD sounds a lot of water but the day is 24hrs long, the gallons are US gallons (4 liters) and the membrane is rated and the best water temperature and water quality.

When it comes to a 450gpd in cold winter's tap water it would take over 36 hours to fill a 1000 liters IBC tank with about 800 liters of pure.  It was only fractionally better in summer at 28 hours to fill the same tank.
A 450 will provide you will plenty of water once you get busy using an IBC tank as a 'reservoir'.

You would need a transfer pump to transfer water to you van or 25l plastic containers.

I would  contact a reputable supplier such as Doug at Daqua.co.uk when the time comes. You will get quality membranes in the r/o as apposed to cheaper Chinese made membranes that aren't as efficient and wouldn't last as long.

[Mr B shine]

Cheers spruce that was a useful reply.
  I was looking at back packs but the reality is I'm going to need a trolly as i already have a very solid round  that i do traditional.
 Old injuries with a bad knee is making ladder work harder so I need to switch over.

[Spruce]

Cheers spruce that was a useful reply.
  I was looking at back packs but the reality is I'm going to need a trolly as i already have a very solid round  that i do traditional.
 Old injuries with a bad knee is making ladder work harder so I need to switch over.

Yep, carrying a back pack around won't help your knee either. Decanting water from 25 litre plastic containers into the backpack isn't good for the back either.

This was an interesting video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKb-sjFf5mc&t=144s

You have a big round already so my gut is telling me you need to start towards the 'top' of the equipment list. Most new cleaners starting out begin with a backpack as its the cheapest way of starting. They only have a few customers. As they grow their customer base, they will quickly find themselves outgrowing their equipment.

But you have a 'solid' round so I would be heading toward a van mount with hose reel if I were doing this over. I started with a trailer system with a new round we purchased comprising of an estate of 90% dormers. There is no way I could have done that with a backpack. I was also younger and healthier then as well.

I very quickly found that the trailer system wasn't good enough and eventually went to a van mount in a 2001 Citroen Relay 1.9 swb diesel. I should have done that years before.

[dd]

A lot comes down to how much money you have.

If funds are not an issue and you have an established round, personally I would look at a 500l van mount system, and buy a new/newish van.

Grippatank are near you so I would start my investigations there.

[dazmond]

Get a decent van,500l tank and electric reel from the off along with a carbon pole.....

You really dont want a backpack or trolley system trust me...been there,done that.....

With having an established round  you ll soon make your money back.....you ll wish you d switched sooner after a few months without a doubt.....

[Richard iSparkle]

I’d recommend A van based pure freedom by the window cleaning warehouse. I’ve had 3 very robust systems off them and at a good price. Great service too.  just get a loan and do it if you need. It’ll pay you back time and time again.

[a900]

As others have said. Your choice to listen or not. Don’t waste your time with barrels and trolleys. Get a van and a tank.

Then you have two options with RO depending on circumstances and what you want to do. Static RO at home and pump the water from a storage tank into the van when needed. Or RO in van and run hose pipe to van to fill up. Either option you need to make sure the RO set up doesn’t freeze or it will need replacement parts if you do.

The bottom line is don’t waste your time with barrels and backpack or trolley. You will feel like your no better off than ladders and resent it.

[Spruce]

Some good advise here.

Back to the r/o and adding to a900's advise. If you are processing water into an IBC storage tank then a 300 - 450gpd (prefer 450gpd) will do long term. If you have an r/o on board and you process water directly into the van's tank, then most fit a bigger 4021 or the most popular 4040 r/o as they produce water faster.

An r/o works by forcing tap water through a membrane. The water can get through but 97-98% or the dissolved solids can't and get trapped. The membrane housing has a process of then flushing those solids away during the filtration process.

So whilst filtering water, you will expect to use up to 3 liters of tap water to produce 1 liter of pure. The remaining 2 liters of water goes to waste. Some of us in soft to medium water hardness areas can reduce that ratio to about 60 waste to 40 pure.

[andyralph]

Hi I have some equipment for sale I’ve posted on the used equipment for sale if u r intrested thanks andy

[Mr B shine]

After some talking and some numbers it's looking like a van with a 500-650li tank and I've found a decent fella to sell me water to start with.
 Cheers people as there has been some good advice on here....ahthankinyou.

[Clever Forum Name]

After some talking and some numbers it's looking like a van with a 500-650li tank and I've found a decent fella to sell me water to start with.
 Cheers people as there has been some good advice on here....ahthankinyou.

I ain't told you the price yet 

[Mr B shine]

After some talking and some numbers it's looking like a van with a 500-650li tank and I've found a decent fella to sell me water to start with.
 Cheers people as there has been some good advice on here....ahthankinyou.

I ain't told you the price yet 

The price will be good, I have a feeling it will be ok

[NWH]

Depends where you make your water I reckon the unit they sell for 800-1000 looks a good option if you make water outside,it’s a 40x40 with 2 pre filters and can quickly be disconnected and put indoors.