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EandM

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Re: Transit 2.4 tdci duratorq 330s opinion please
« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2019, 11:22:49 am »
Are you saying the 2.2 is the unreliable version,I know someone who’s just got 1.

Yes. The 2.2 in the Transit and Ranger and the 3.2 in the Ranger have an oil pump issue.
The problem, essentially, is the oil pump having an incredibly stupid design that can see it fail, usually taking the engine with it.
The Transits were recalled to fix the problem but the Rangers weren't - despite there being a Facebook page set up by disgruntled owners facing huge bills for new engines that Ford won't cover.
An aftermarket,  modified oil pump of much better design is now available. It also affects the Land Rover Defender, which uses the same engine.

Lee GLS

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Re: Transit 2.4 tdci duratorq 330s opinion please
« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2019, 01:21:26 pm »
The early 2.2 transits were ok, they had the gear type oil pump rather than the cane type that fails, I think it was from euro 5 they changed them.

I’m in the process of buying a ranger, the oil pump won’t pump me off, it will just be factored into the cost of buying the vehicle that I need to have the oil pump replaced straight away.

RPCCS

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Re: Transit 2.4 tdci duratorq 330s opinion please
« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2019, 01:40:05 pm »
The 2,4 is the rear wheel drive lab high top.  I had a swb Transit 07 plate 2:2; it was as reliable as the day is long, but after only 3 months it starting rusting like nothing on earth. I kept it for 18 months then sold it to a mate, who knew the body was rusting, he had it 18 months and just had to scrap it a couple of months ago.  Your best bet is to try www.vanmonster.com.  All ex rental vans fsh ,decent mot , 6 month warranty. Yes more expensive vans, but the 3k deposit will bring down the monthly finance payments. Bear in mind  the finance on the van is offset against your tax liability.  Don’t bother with the one you mentioned, there will be better ones out there.
Cheers Rich

EandM

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Re: Transit 2.4 tdci duratorq 330s opinion please
« Reply #23 on: November 03, 2019, 01:54:10 pm »
The early 2.2 transits were ok, they had the gear type oil pump rather than the cane type that fails, I think it was from euro 5 they changed them.

I’m in the process of buying a ranger, the oil pump won’t pump me off, it will just be factored into the cost of buying the vehicle that I need to have the oil pump replaced straight away.

The 2.2 Ranger is Euro 5 from its inception and they all seem to be affected from late 2011-2016. It's also an issue with the Defender from the introduction of the 2.2 in 2012.
Ford  now list two oil pumps but I wonder what the gear driven type does to its Euro 6 standing ?
Hopefully, not a lot but you know how funny some of the insurance companies get about modifications.
The dire variable rate pump is supposed to save about 1.3 bhp at best.

This one popped up from Australia, home of the current Ranger:
https://www.engineaustralia.com.au/part/oil-pump-gear-type/

I drive an older Ranger which is a Mazda built 2.5 and doesn't seem to have any of the inherent problems that affect the current Ford built Ranger. (170,000 miles and 17 years old)

Lee GLS

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Re: Transit 2.4 tdci duratorq 330s opinion please
« Reply #24 on: November 03, 2019, 03:43:29 pm »
The early 2.2 transits were ok, they had the gear type oil pump rather than the cane type that fails, I think it was from euro 5 they changed them.

I’m in the process of buying a ranger, the oil pump won’t pump me off, it will just be factored into the cost of buying the vehicle that I need to have the oil pump replaced straight away.

The 2.2 Ranger is Euro 5 from its inception and they all seem to be affected from late 2011-2016. It's also an issue with the Defender from the introduction of the 2.2 in 2012.
Ford  now list two oil pumps but I wonder what the gear driven type does to its Euro 6 standing ?
Hopefully, not a lot but you know how funny some of the insurance companies get about modifications.
The dire variable rate pump is supposed to save about 1.3 bhp at best.

This one popped up from Australia, home of the current Ranger:
https://www.engineaustralia.com.au/part/oil-pump-gear-type/

I drive an older Ranger which is a Mazda built 2.5 and doesn't seem to have any of the inherent problems that affect the current Ford built Ranger. (170,000 miles and 17 years old)

The Australian gear type one seems to be identical to the FAI oem spec. A guy on a ranger Facebook group actually fitted a FAI OP243 oil type pump to his 3.2 ranger. I needed part of the bangle removing from the sump but it fitted and worked successfully

EandM

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Re: Transit 2.4 tdci duratorq 330s opinion please
« Reply #25 on: November 03, 2019, 04:48:40 pm »
The early 2.2 transits were ok, they had the gear type oil pump rather than the cane type that fails, I think it was from euro 5 they changed them.

I’m in the process of buying a ranger, the oil pump won’t pump me off, it will just be factored into the cost of buying the vehicle that I need to have the oil pump replaced straight away.

The 2.2 Ranger is Euro 5 from its inception and they all seem to be affected from late 2011-2016. It's also an issue with the Defender from the introduction of the 2.2 in 2012.
Ford  now list two oil pumps but I wonder what the gear driven type does to its Euro 6 standing ?
Hopefully, not a lot but you know how funny some of the insurance companies get about modifications.
The dire variable rate pump is supposed to save about 1.3 bhp at best.

This one popped up from Australia, home of the current Ranger:
https://www.engineaustralia.com.au/part/oil-pump-gear-type/

I drive an older Ranger which is a Mazda built 2.5 and doesn't seem to have any of the inherent problems that affect the current Ford built Ranger. (170,000 miles and 17 years old)

The Australian gear type one seems to be identical to the FAI oem spec. A guy on a ranger Facebook group actually fitted a FAI OP243 oil type pump to his 3.2 ranger. I needed part of the bangle removing from the sump but it fitted and worked successfully

Yes I read that. Very interesting. There seems to be a fair bit of labour involved in swapping out a part that should never have needed swapping out. Over about 50,000 miles seems to be failure point - although many seem to have done much better.
The lack of a standard LSD or locking diff on the new Ranger is another niggle - as is the absence of underbody protection.
Ford have taken a really excellent, multi use vehicle and limited its usefulness.
I suppose that's progress  :)