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Evan

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Re: Membrane cleaning
« Reply #20 on: December 10, 2020, 09:06:08 am »
Do you guys flush your systems regularly?

chris turner

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Re: Membrane cleaning
« Reply #21 on: December 10, 2020, 10:07:38 am »
Do you guys flush your systems regularly?

I flush maybe once a month for 10 mins. My last membrane lasted around 5 years doing this with an input TDS of 350.

NWH

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Re: Membrane cleaning
« Reply #22 on: December 10, 2020, 10:16:51 am »
I flush mine every blue moon producing water at 003 6-7 years old this membrane.

Splash & dash

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Re: Membrane cleaning
« Reply #23 on: December 10, 2020, 05:12:01 pm »
This post makes me laugh most on hear claim they are earning £400-600 per day but they cannot afford it replace membranes that cost less than a days wages , just buy new what a bunch of skinflints 🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥

chris turner

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Re: Membrane cleaning
« Reply #24 on: December 10, 2020, 05:55:40 pm »
This post makes me laugh most on hear claim they are earning £400-600 per day but they cannot afford it replace membranes that cost less than a days wages , just buy new what a bunch of skinflints 🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥

Isn't it just you and NWH that claim you earn that sort of money?

Splash & dash

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Re: Membrane cleaning
« Reply #25 on: December 10, 2020, 06:06:35 pm »
This post makes me laugh most on hear claim they are earning £400-600 per day but they cannot afford it replace membranes that cost less than a days wages , just buy new what a bunch of skinflints 🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥

Isn't it just you and NWH that claim you earn that sort of money?




I have never stated what we earn on hear , Ime just quoting what the majority say 

chris turner

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Re: Membrane cleaning
« Reply #26 on: December 10, 2020, 06:20:07 pm »
This post makes me laugh most on hear claim they are earning £400-600 per day but they cannot afford it replace membranes that cost less than a days wages , just buy new what a bunch of skinflints 🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥

Isn't it just you and NWH that claim you earn that sort of money?




I have never stated what we earn on hear , Ime just quoting what the majority say

Well unfortunately you are wrong, i would say the majority of people on here earn something in the region of 200,000 penny's a day and choose to look after those pennies where they can.

Splash & dash

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Re: Membrane cleaning
« Reply #27 on: December 10, 2020, 06:36:23 pm »
This post makes me laugh most on hear claim they are earning £400-600 per day but they cannot afford it replace membranes that cost less than a days wages , just buy new what a bunch of skinflints 🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥

Isn't it just you and NWH that claim you earn that sort of money?




I have never stated what we earn on hear , Ime just quoting what the majority say

Well unfortunately you are wrong, i would say the majority of people on here earn something in the region of 200,000 penny's a day and choose to look after those pennies where they can.



What ever , it’s false economy just replace them , ones on hear with multiple vans and there they are trying to clean  membranes , sad !,,,,,,,,,

chris turner

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Re: Membrane cleaning
« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2020, 07:03:58 pm »
This post makes me laugh most on hear claim they are earning £400-600 per day but they cannot afford it replace membranes that cost less than a days wages , just buy new what a bunch of skinflints 🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥

Isn't it just you and NWH that claim you earn that sort of money?




I have never stated what we earn on hear , Ime just quoting what the majority say

Well unfortunately you are wrong, i would say the majority of people on here earn something in the region of 200,000 penny's a day and choose to look after those pennies where they can.



What ever , it’s false economy just replace them , ones on hear with multiple vans and there they are trying to clean  membranes , sad !,,,,,,,,,

Spending £5 to save £100s isn't really false economy is it...
Perhaps you should change your name to splash the cash  ;D

Splash & dash

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Re: Membrane cleaning
« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2020, 07:11:56 pm »
This post makes me laugh most on hear claim they are earning £400-600 per day but they cannot afford it replace membranes that cost less than a days wages , just buy new what a bunch of skinflints 🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥

Isn't it just you and NWH that claim you earn that sort of money?




I have never stated what we earn on hear , Ime just quoting what the majority say

Well unfortunately you are wrong, i would say the majority of people on here earn something in the region of 200,000 penny's a day and choose to look after those pennies where they can.



What ever , it’s false economy just replace them , ones on hear with multiple vans and there they are trying to clean  membranes , sad !,,,,,,,,,

Spending £5 to save £100s isn't really false economy is it...
Perhaps you should change your name to splash the cash  ;D





Depending ware you are in the country a 4040 membrane should last 3-10 years mine are 6 years old and still fine , but if a company with multiple vans cannot afford a couple of membranes every 3+ years or so then there is something drastically  wrong , all the time you spend faffing about  removing it , cleaning it replacing it all costs , just replace it and you know it won’t have to be touched again fir a number of years , that’s my take on it , I don't  believe in waiting money  but neither am I a skinflint , to me it’s just common sense tk replace it , you wouldn’t dream of cleaning an oil filter ,or air filter unless it’s specifically designed tk be cleaned would you , membranes are not designed to be cleaned they are a consumable item once knackered they need replacing end off .

Bungle

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Re: Membrane cleaning
« Reply #30 on: December 10, 2020, 07:22:47 pm »
This post makes me laugh most on hear claim they are earning £400-600 per day but they cannot afford it replace membranes that cost less than a days wages , just buy new what a bunch of skinflints 🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥

Isn't it just you and NWH that claim you earn that sort of money?




I have never stated what we earn on hear , Ime just quoting what the majority say

Well unfortunately you are wrong, i would say the majority of people on here earn something in the region of 200,000 penny's a day and choose to look after those pennies where they can.



What ever , it’s false economy just replace them , ones on hear with multiple vans and there they are trying to clean  membranes , sad !,,,,,,,,,

Spending £5 to save £100s isn't really false economy is it...
Perhaps you should change your name to splash the cash  ;D





Depending ware you are in the country a 4040 membrane should last 3-10 years mine are 6 years old and still fine , but if a company with multiple vans cannot afford a couple of membranes every 3+ years or so then there is something drastically  wrong , all the time you spend faffing about  removing it , cleaning it replacing it all costs , just replace it and you know it won’t have to be touched again fir a number of years , that’s my take on it , I don't  believe in waiting money  but neither am I a skinflint , to me it’s just common sense tk replace it , you wouldn’t dream of cleaning an oil filter ,or air filter unless it’s specifically designed tk be cleaned would you , membranes are not designed to be cleaned they are a consumable item once knackered they need replacing end off .

How's about you spending a few quid and buying a spell checker for your computer? The amount of time I waste trying to decipher what you're saying.... I should be charging you 😃
We look at them, they look through them.

NWH

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Re: Membrane cleaning
« Reply #31 on: December 10, 2020, 07:25:00 pm »
Order a new 1 it comes the next day out in job done forget for another so many years,it’s like replacing sections on a pole if  most sections  are done buy a new pole when you earn a massive 200 a day like me it’s no problem 🤣🤣🤣🤣🦠🦠🦠🦠🦠🦠🦠

Mike Burd

Re: Membrane cleaning
« Reply #32 on: December 11, 2020, 09:00:33 am »
This post makes me laugh most on hear claim they are earning £400-600 per day but they cannot afford it replace membranes that cost less than a days wages , just buy new what a bunch of skinflints 🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥

Isn't it just you and NWH that claim you earn that sort of money?




I have never stated what we earn on hear , Ime just quoting what the majority say

Well unfortunately you are wrong, i would say the majority of people on here earn something in the region of 200,000 penny's a day and choose to look after those pennies where they can.



What ever , it’s false economy just replace them , ones on hear with multiple vans and there they are trying to clean  membranes , sad !,,,,,,,,,

Spending £5 to save £100s isn't really false economy is it...
Perhaps you should change your name to splash the cash  ;D





Depending ware you are in the country a 4040 membrane should last 3-10 years mine are 6 years old and still fine , but if a company with multiple vans cannot afford a couple of membranes every 3+ years or so then there is something drastically  wrong , all the time you spend faffing about  removing it , cleaning it replacing it all costs , just replace it and you know it won’t have to be touched again fir a number of years , that’s my take on it , I don't  believe in waiting money  but neither am I a skinflint , to me it’s just common sense tk replace it , you wouldn’t dream of cleaning an oil filter ,or air filter unless it’s specifically designed tk be cleaned would you , membranes are not designed to be cleaned they are a consumable item once knackered they need replacing end off .
We get about 6-9 months out of a membrane. I’m not great at replacing prefilters though. From new our water goes from 280 to 4. I change at about 25. Really I should change earlier because we rip through resin once were over About 15.

High-Tower

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Re: Membrane cleaning
« Reply #33 on: December 11, 2020, 09:25:06 am »
We get about 6-9 months out of a membrane. I’m not great at replacing prefilters though. From new our water goes from 280 to 4. I change at about 25. Really I should change earlier because we rip through resin once were over About 15.

Which membrane’s do you use? Is that with a a booster pump too?
I’ve a cheap Chinese membrane and can just about get it to single figures, wondering whether a higher quality membrane would be worth it.

Smudger

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Re: Membrane cleaning
« Reply #34 on: December 11, 2020, 10:53:32 am »
you need to check the specs of the membrane - some of the cheaper ones state 95% rejection rate where the axion and others are 98 or 99%
this is a big difference when your aiming for 000 TDS

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

High-Tower

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Re: Membrane cleaning
« Reply #35 on: December 11, 2020, 12:26:29 pm »
you need to check the specs of the membrane - some of the cheaper ones state 95% rejection rate where the axion and others are 98 or 99%
this is a big difference when your aiming for 000 TDS

Darran

I bought the membrane as a stop-gap after a pure-water supplier I had been using put their prices up. I have been getting 96% rejection at 50/50ish.
I was interested if the higher quality membranes really achieve the higher rejection rate or if they usually need a booster to get them.

Smudger

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Re: Membrane cleaning
« Reply #36 on: December 11, 2020, 01:23:20 pm »
a membrane should work better with a booster pump  - when I used a cheapie I could only achieve .013  better specs give me 006 this from an average hard water area of 370

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Mike Burd

Re: Membrane cleaning
« Reply #37 on: December 11, 2020, 01:37:45 pm »
We get about 6-9 months out of a membrane. I’m not great at replacing prefilters though. From new our water goes from 280 to 4. I change at about 25. Really I should change earlier because we rip through resin once were over About 15.

Which membrane’s do you use? Is that with a a booster pump too?
I’ve a cheap Chinese membrane and can just about get it to single figures, wondering whether a higher quality membrane would be worth it.
I always buy from Gaps. Axeon or comparable if the Axeon is out of stock. To be honest I’ve only had one that’s been horrendous and according to Gaps (bought elsewhere) it wasn’t appropriate.

We use a booster pump. To be truthful I think I’m cheap in this and ought to look at a higher tec system with auto flush.

Smudger

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Re: Membrane cleaning
« Reply #38 on: December 11, 2020, 01:45:48 pm »
I have been mulling over this myself - as the amount produced per day is quite high and with out hard water the membrane takes a pounding - trouble is its a right pain to get some one who knows about these things to come all the way out here ( Norfolk )

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

High-Tower

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Re: Membrane cleaning
« Reply #39 on: December 11, 2020, 02:40:45 pm »
a membrane should work better with a booster pump  - when I used a cheapie I could only achieve .013  better specs give me 006 this from an average hard water area of 370

Darran

I would ideally like to avoid a booster pump if I can, just to keep things simple. I was interested to know if the 98/99% is commonly achievable or if that was an "optimum under perfect conditions" number.