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Slacky

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Re: Trained a guy up, now he wants to start on his own
« Reply #40 on: September 18, 2019, 07:19:52 am »
So, youre employing someone who’s using their inititiative and has ambition.

Good on ‘em. Keep us updated when you make the aspirational move of employing the next dropout.

Spruce

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Re: Trained a guy up, now he wants to start on his own
« Reply #41 on: September 18, 2019, 07:31:25 am »
As title,
A guy I know started giving me a hand 2 months ago.  Today he says he might buy a van and have a go on his own.  He thinks I'll let him help me until he builds a round up.  I'm quite cross and think I should tell him to go now.  What's everybody's else think?
Cheers
Steve

Why not start a form of franchise so you can satisfy his desire to work for himself but with your input? That way you both benefit.

If he is going off on his own then he needs the equipment to do the job anyway.

I also agree with other posters that you need a signed contract in place before you start anyone working with you detailing what you he can and can't do.
 
Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

Don Kee

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Re: Trained a guy up, now he wants to start on his own
« Reply #42 on: September 18, 2019, 08:18:22 am »


Why not start a form of franchise so you can satisfy his desire to work for himself but with your input? That way you both benefit.


 


Or pay him a proper wage, give him a proper job and maybe he’ll take the job more seriously.
Why don't you have a quick google before making stupid comments?

dazmond

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Re: Trained a guy up, now he wants to start on his own
« Reply #43 on: September 18, 2019, 08:22:48 am »
a guy i know only employs guys with learning difficulties,drink problems and generally who cant read and write properly.....fat chance of them leaving and going it alone that way...he also pays them as little as possible so they just have enough to feed themselves and keep a roof over their heads......
price higher/work harder!

NWH

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Re: Trained a guy up, now he wants to start on his own
« Reply #44 on: September 18, 2019, 10:08:16 am »
As far as paying a so called proper wage goes I’ve done both paid low and paid good,makes no difference people are only now starting to see Windows cleaning as a “proper” business. 
Not that long ago it was all the family car with ladders on it’s only now staring to register with people you can make decent money and it being looked at as something that could be long term.

NWH

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Re: Trained a guy up, now he wants to start on his own
« Reply #45 on: September 18, 2019, 10:14:24 am »
Not saying you can’t get the right person but paying a certain amount of money still won’t always work,this business is still not looked upon as a trade people still view it as something that I’ll do while I’m looking for another job.

Slacky

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Re: Trained a guy up, now he wants to start on his own
« Reply #46 on: September 18, 2019, 12:02:04 pm »
Not saying you can’t get the right person but paying a certain amount of money still won’t always work,this business is still not looked upon as a trade people still view it as something that I’ll do while I’m looking for another job.

What other job are you looking for then?

NWH

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Re: Trained a guy up, now he wants to start on his own
« Reply #47 on: September 18, 2019, 12:26:14 pm »
Different case if you work for yourself and what you earn is yours isn’t it,like I say anyone with half a clue would think I’m going on my own.
No one will ever value you’re business or work during the day like you do or have done,it’s not a case of thinking I do X a day on my own if I get someone that will double it won’t happen.

Ooooooog

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Re: Trained a guy up, now he wants to start on his own
« Reply #48 on: September 18, 2019, 03:58:27 pm »
a guy i know only employs guys with learning difficulties,drink problems and generally who cant read and write properly.....fat chance of them leaving and going it alone that way...he also pays them as little as possible so they just have enough to feed themselves and keep a roof over their heads......

Great for the image of your company!😀

Dry Clean

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Re: Trained a guy up, now he wants to start on his own
« Reply #49 on: September 18, 2019, 07:17:36 pm »
As title,
A guy I know started giving me a hand 2 months ago.  Today he says he might buy a van and have a go on his own.  He thinks I'll let him help me until he builds a round up.  I'm quite cross and think I should tell him to go now.  What's everybody's else think?
Cheers
Steve

Why not start a form of franchise so you can satisfy his desire to work for himself but with your input? That way you both benefit.

If he is going off on his own then he needs the equipment to do the job anyway.

I also agree with other posters that you need a signed contract in place before you start anyone working with you detailing what you he can and can't do.
 

There's no law to stop a person going it alone contract signed or not.

Arnold Palmer

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Re: Trained a guy up, now he wants to start on his own
« Reply #50 on: September 18, 2019, 07:20:07 pm »
As title,
A guy I know started giving me a hand 2 months ago.  Today he says he might buy a van and have a go on his own.  He thinks I'll let him help me until he builds a round up.  I'm quite cross and think I should tell him to go now.  What's everybody's else think?
Cheers
Steve

Why not start a form of franchise so you can satisfy his desire to work for himself but with your input? That way you both benefit.

If he is going off on his own then he needs the equipment to do the job anyway.

I also agree with other posters that you need a signed contract in place before you start anyone working with you detailing what you he can and can't do.
 

Don't listen to this contract rubbish, there's no law to stop a person going it alone contract signed or not.

A non compete clause does put people off but it's basically unenforceable.

Dry Clean

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Re: Trained a guy up, now he wants to start on his own
« Reply #51 on: September 18, 2019, 07:30:25 pm »
As title,
A guy I know started giving me a hand 2 months ago.  Today he says he might buy a van and have a go on his own.  He thinks I'll let him help me until he builds a round up.  I'm quite cross and think I should tell him to go now.  What's everybody's else think?
Cheers
Steve

Why not start a form of franchise so you can satisfy his desire to work for himself but with your input? That way you both benefit.

If he is going off on his own then he needs the equipment to do the job anyway.

I also agree with other posters that you need a signed contract in place before you start anyone working with you detailing what you he can and can't do.
 

Don't listen to this contract rubbish, there's no law to stop a person going it alone contract signed or not.

A non compete clause does put people off but it's basically unenforceable.

Exactly, its why big companies tend to give large pay outs to managers and so forth when they leave, if they compete or try and take any business with them they have to give the money back.

Re: Trained a guy up, now he wants to start on his own
« Reply #52 on: September 19, 2019, 07:23:36 am »
a guy i know only employs guys with learning difficulties,drink problems and generally who cant read and write properly.....fat chance of them leaving and going it alone that way...he also pays them as little as possible so they just have enough to feed themselves and keep a roof over their heads......

I suspect you've made that up.

"Window cleaner required, must have a criminal record, do drugs and generally be thick".

dazmond

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Re: Trained a guy up, now he wants to start on his own
« Reply #53 on: September 19, 2019, 09:01:59 am »
a guy i know only employs guys with learning difficulties,drink problems and generally who cant read and write properly.....fat chance of them leaving and going it alone that way...he also pays them as little as possible so they just have enough to feed themselves and keep a roof over their heads......

I suspect you've made that up.

"Window cleaner required, must have a criminal record, do drugs and generally be thick".

not at all.......he gets them from the local council estate......theres loads of them round here.....cash in hand.........not legally of course..... ;D
price higher/work harder!

Plankton

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Re: Trained a guy up, now he wants to start on his own
« Reply #54 on: September 19, 2019, 11:57:27 am »
a guy i know only employs guys with learning difficulties,drink problems and generally who cant read and write properly.....fat chance of them leaving and going it alone that way...he also pays them as little as possible so they just have enough to feed themselves and keep a roof over their heads......

I suspect you've made that up.

"Window cleaner required, must have a criminal record, do drugs and generally be thick".
:D

Slacky

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Re: Trained a guy up, now he wants to start on his own
« Reply #55 on: September 19, 2019, 03:01:40 pm »
a guy i know only employs guys with learning difficulties,drink problems and generally who cant read and write properly.....fat chance of them leaving and going it alone that way...he also pays them as little as possible so they just have enough to feed themselves and keep a roof over their heads......

I suspect you've made that up.

"Window cleaner required, must have a criminal record, do drugs and generally be thick".

Why don't you apply?

jay moley

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Re: Trained a guy up, now he wants to start on his own
« Reply #56 on: September 20, 2019, 08:18:03 pm »
a guy i know only employs guys with learning difficulties,drink problems and generally who cant read and write properly.....fat chance of them leaving and going it alone that way...he also pays them as little as possible so they just have enough to feed themselves and keep a roof over their heads......

I suspect you've made that up.

"Window cleaner required, must have a criminal record, do drugs and generally be thick".

When can I start?

AuRavelling79

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Re: Trained a guy up, now he wants to start on his own
« Reply #57 on: September 22, 2019, 11:25:49 am »
a guy i know only employs guys with learning difficulties,drink problems and generally who cant read and write properly.....fat chance of them leaving and going it alone that way...he also pays them as little as possible so they just have enough to feed themselves and keep a roof over their heads......

I suspect you've made that up.

"Window cleaner required, must have a criminal record, do drugs and generally be thick".

The card in the local corner shop actually reads thus ...

Easy work for booze, fags and drugs.
Wait at Bus Stop every day at 8 O'clock.
Time off for Probation Officer visits and Signing on.
It's a game of three halves!

Johnny B

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Re: Trained a guy up, now he wants to start on his own
« Reply #58 on: September 22, 2019, 06:42:19 pm »
If it were someone working for me, I would let them go. I would tell them that I genuinely wish them all the very best, but I'm letting them go because I wouldn't want to stand in their way. All said very politely and with a smile.

John
Being diplomatic is being able to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip.