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Plankton

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Scrubbing pressure
« on: September 01, 2019, 10:18:22 am »
So you've got a window covered in snail trails or whatever and I would think most would just apply more pressure on the glass to scrub the sht out of it but are you actually getting through it faster, is there a point where applying too much pressure that the bristles become less effective.

Ralphie

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Re: Scrubbing pressure
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2019, 11:29:15 am »
Are you asking the question because you want the answer or because you are going to educate us? 😊

Dry Clean

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Re: Scrubbing pressure
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2019, 12:52:12 pm »
No extra pressure just scrub in a circular motion and they melt, I don't know  if its to do with the changing weather or having  customers who no longer bother with window boxes but I rarely get snail trails now.

alank

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Re: Scrubbing pressure
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2019, 12:54:02 pm »
I think it's best to just let the brush do the work if you scrub and scrub you are probably going to ache more at the end of the day and not get finished any earlier  you end up expending more energy to achieve the same results .

dd

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Re: Scrubbing pressure
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2019, 01:38:36 pm »
You only need enough pressure (minimal) so the inner bristles are in contact with the glass.

The more bristles splay the less effectively they scrub, because there is less of the bristle head in contact with the glass. For this reason your toothbrush will be 0 degree splay. You will not a "Supreme" style version of your toothbrush.

zesty

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Re: Scrubbing pressure
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2019, 01:43:04 pm »
I find the harder I push, the quicker I remove stubborn marks.

Plankton

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Re: Scrubbing pressure
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2019, 02:41:31 pm »
Are you asking the question because you want the answer or because you are going to educate us? 😊
:)
I always have my ideas but more force causes more friction or energy and that energy has to go somewhere (que the collateral damage from the video for those that watched it through) and I think you'll end up with a worn out brush or a broken window and more long term an effect on the body.
So Dazmonds post I'd agree with but as the "new guy" automatically applys more pressure I'm saying to him ease off as I think there's a point where the brush has its limits and instead of going mad go back after the next window or two.

I have a sht load of houses with horrendous snail trails and they can be very easy or a complete pita.

robbo333

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Re: Scrubbing pressure
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2019, 03:47:14 pm »
I always turn the water off, push a bit harder and scrub 'along the length' of the snail trail. Gone in seconds!
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Spotfree

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Re: Scrubbing pressure
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2019, 04:14:52 pm »
I have just gone back to the extremes and am finding there's nothing they don't remove that another brush does.

The new TaperTec extreme is a very good agitator, I love the feel of it on the glass. I've been off for 2 weeks so the last week has been 6/10 weekly work, it's all been a pain but I have used only the extreme's and have had no problems.

If you look at the size of the dust particles etc on the glass, even a bird mess, then look at the size of an extreme brush and an 18ft pole then there's no match really.

I find just the weight of the pole and brush does the job fine, if it's really glued on then it's soaking once or twice if that doesn't work then super scrape.

With a nylon brush, you only want the bristle tips, with a boar hair or similar then you can press on a bit more as the whole length of the bristle is effective due to its rough surface. Gardiners have taken it one step further with the new type of bristle.

zesty

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Re: Scrubbing pressure
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2019, 04:36:20 pm »
I have just gone back to the extremes and am finding there's nothing they don't remove that another brush does.

The new TaperTec extreme is a very good agitator, I love the feel of it on the glass. I've been off for 2 weeks so the last week has been 6/10 weekly work, it's all been a pain but I have used only the extreme's and have had no problems.

If you look at the size of the dust particles etc on the glass, even a bird mess, then look at the size of an extreme brush and an 18ft pole then there's no match really.

I find just the weight of the pole and brush does the job fine, if it's really glued on then it's soaking once or twice if that doesn't work then super scrape.

With a nylon brush, you only want the bristle tips, with a boar hair or similar then you can press on a bit more as the whole length of the bristle is effective due to its rough surface. Gardiners have taken it one step further with the new type of bristle.

Been saying that first part for years, xtreme brushes are all I use.

robbo333

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Re: Scrubbing pressure
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2019, 05:02:03 pm »
Same for me, I have tennis elbow issues.

Xtreme brushes 90% of the time, with Extreme pole and I use an additional 30m of Gardiners Reinforced Pole Hose on my main reel (to keep it lighter and more manageable).

I use the Xtreme stiff, all day long.

First cleans, no problem, with an Xtreme stiff brush, No Nonsense Degreaser, plus, a cut down brush (shorter bristles and shorter width, acts like a large toothbrush) plus a 'magic eraser pad' that I have attached to a Gardiners quick lock, using tough elastic bands. A few little tools I made myself, just in case I need them.

I also have an Ultimate medium (I bought it just to try, good brush, but I keep reverting back to the Xtreme stiff) and a Supreme flocked. The Supreme flocked is about the best brush for leaded windows in my opinion, but for me, it's a tad heavy.

I found an original Xtreme flocked brush in my garage (unused). I now use this(with red fan jets) for fsg cleans, as again, I need light brushes.

I recently purchased the new Xtreme TaperTec brush.
Initially, I was disappointed as it doesn't look up to much!
However, it has a very good scrubbing action. I think an extended width version of this would be very good on commercial glass.

So for me:
Xtreme stiff for house bashing and Xtreme TaperTec for bungalows with large panes.

Looking forward to the new Xtreme Sill Brush (but kind of underwhelmed too, now!)
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Spotfree

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Re: Scrubbing pressure
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2019, 05:04:48 pm »
I always turn the water off, push a bit harder and scrub 'along the length' of the snail trail. Gone in seconds!

Will have to try that, we breed snails in Wales.  I've been liking the "circular" motion lately, I find you're attacking the deposit from all of its angles.

Smudger

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Re: Scrubbing pressure
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2019, 06:04:07 pm »
there was a post on here years back, it also stated that snail trails would be removed quicker with less pressure as the tips of the bristle did the work - this was something I took up and works for me and my guys

Darran
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robbo333

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Re: Scrubbing pressure
« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2019, 06:17:11 pm »
Thanks, I'll give it a try.
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Plankton

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Re: Scrubbing pressure
« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2019, 08:06:50 pm »
I've always done the circular motion especially on hoppers where there was more dirt or (greasy smoker houses)

Bungle

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Re: Scrubbing pressure
« Reply #15 on: September 01, 2019, 08:33:27 pm »
I always turn the water off, push a bit harder and scrub 'along the length' of the snail trail. Gone in seconds!

This is the correct answer. I find the smoother the glass the harder it is to get rid of snail trails. Turn the water off, scrub and the bristles work better, then when the trail has gone turn the water back on and clean again.
We look at them, they look through them.

dazmond

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Re: Scrubbing pressure
« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2019, 09:00:17 am »
hot water helps with snail trails....i also tend to use a circular motion on them too......i have lots of work in the countryside and jobs where customers plant shrubs/hanging baskets right in front of windows....

we re heading into the winter months now so they will be easier to clean off than the summer months i find.....
price higher/work harder!