[Spotfree]

What boilers are you using?

I am talking to a local caravan boiler specialist, I'm enquiring about having 2 boilers professionally fitted.

I would like to know something about it all before I go.

[dazmond]

What boilers are you using?

I am talking to a local caravan boiler specialist, I'm enquiring about having 2 boilers professionally fitted.

I would like to know something about it all before I go.

dont be silly....its not worth it mate...

1.YOU WONT BE INSURED....
2.THEY CAN LEAK AND CAUSE EXPLOSIONS AND ARE A FIRE RISK....

seriously NO insurer will insure you working away from the van USING A GAS HEATER with a flame and a source of ignition nearby(battery terminals)

[Dave Willis]

But if you do a search on here there’s a guy with the same name as Dazmond who posted how to fit one and how brilliant they are. He even had two. 😀
He must have had insurance I’d imagine.
After that there was another Dazmond who said hot water was a waste of money.
So many Dazmonds to choose from.

[Spotfree]

No, these people fit these boilers in caravans and motor homes for a living.

He can provide me with a certificate to say its all done to regulations. He just needs to add a flue to the van and all the correct pipework and regulators.

It'll be much more expensive than a DIY jobbie, but much cheaper all round than a diesel.

[dazmond]

But if you do a search on here there’s a guy with the same name as Dazmond who posted how to fit one and how brilliant they are. He even had two. 😀
He must have had insurance I’d imagine.
After that there was another Dazmond who said hot water was a waste of money.
So many Dazmonds to choose from.

thats before i had an gas explosion in my brand new van....i know other window cleaners who have had the same issue.....

[dazmond]

No, these people fit these boilers in caravans and motor homes for a living.

He can provide me with a certificate to say its all done to regulations. He just needs to add a flue to the van and all the correct pipework and regulators.

It'll be much more expensive than a DIY jobbie, but much cheaper all round than a diesel.

ok good luck with it......i still dont think your insurance will cover you though......

[dazmond]

But if you do a search on here there’s a guy with the same name as Dazmond who posted how to fit one and how brilliant they are. He even had two. 😀
He must have had insurance I’d imagine.
After that there was another Dazmond who said hot water was a waste of money.
So many Dazmonds to choose from.

none of us learn anything without making a few mistakes/misjudgements......

[Spotfree]

No, these people fit these boilers in caravans and motor homes for a living.

He can provide me with a certificate to say its all done to regulations. He just needs to add a flue to the van and all the correct pipework and regulators.

It'll be much more expensive than a DIY jobbie, but much cheaper all round than a diesel.

ok good luck with it......i still dont think your insurance will cover you though......

Cheers, If they don't then its a no go!

But you do have plumbers and motorhomes not much bigger than a tranny with these thing in so it must be nothing new to my insurer?

[PHILIP HARDY]

Just save yourself the money and use cold, hot is not nessasary,(without opening up the hot V cold debate), even the most dedicated users of hot only claim a 3 or 4 % improvement in time spent on the glass and many hundreds on here operate succesfully with cold pure, 24/7/365 days a year, so basically why bother !!! Tiny savings v High danger risk v bad cost efectiveness.
I always thught businessmen had to maxmise profitability not expenditure.

[dazmond]

No, these people fit these boilers in caravans and motor homes for a living.

He can provide me with a certificate to say its all done to regulations. He just needs to add a flue to the van and all the correct pipework and regulators.

It'll be much more expensive than a DIY jobbie, but much cheaper all round than a diesel.

ok good luck with it......i still dont think your insurance will cover you though......

Cheers, If they don't then its a no go!

But you do have plumbers and motorhomes not much bigger than a tranny with these thing in so it must be nothing new to my insurer?

that place in ireland(sureclean i think) used to fit gas heaters but i dont think they do now....im sure pure O2 also fit gas heaters but i think their on par with the price of a diesel heater(and you have to use 8mm minibore which would put me off)

[dazmond]

Just save yourself the money and use cold, hot is not nessasary,(without opening up the hot V cold debate), even the most dedicated users of hot only claim a 3 or 4 % improvement in time spent on the glass and many hundreds on here operate succesfully with cold pure, 24/7/365 days a year, so basically why bother !!! Tiny savings v High danger risk v bad cost efectiveness.
I always thught businessmen had to maxmise profitability not expenditure.

maybe for you but if your cleaning for a living day in/day out it stands to reason using hot water makes the job easier/more comfortable(esp during the winter months)......

it is a luxury but i like a bit of luxury when working.......also paul works on the coast so the windows he ll be cleaning will be minging!so hot water will be well worth it for him......just make sure you charge a bit more than the cold water cleaners in your area to cover the extra cost.....

[Jonny 87]

Insurance is the main one.

Phone up your insurance and explain to them what will be happening. Operating the heater while away from the vehicle etc.

I couldn’t get an answer that I was covered from multiple insurers.

Then I also had a gas leak and the flame on the ignition caught the end of the gas hose. 

If I was you I’d go down the immersion route. It will give you warm water and will be fine.

Hot is a luxury. I wouldn’t go back to cold, but I would only do it if i had 4K sitting around in savings that I didn’t particularly need.

[Spotfree]

Ive had a 3kw element on for 12 hours last night, warm water is all I'm cleaning with today.

It does seem to help on them snail trails though, and Daz is right about being on the coast, some months are a nightmare.

I get pain in most of my joints and if hot can make things a little easier without paying too much then it could be for me.

[nathankaye]

Do you fill straight into the van from tap etc or do you fill an ibc and then transfer?
If ibc, consider insulation perhaps so your starting with a steady temp to begin with.
Have you insulated the van tank as well?
Also do you use all the water you take out each day?  For instance I dont and so my starting temp before i turn on the immersion can be higher than the ibc water.

[KS Cleaning]

Ive had a 3kw element on for 12 hours last night, warm water is all I'm cleaning with today.

It does seem to help on them snail trails though, and Daz is right about being on the coast, some months are a nightmare.

I get pain in most of my joints and if hot can make things a little easier without paying too much then it could be for me.

Have you upgraded your electrics to support a 3KW immersion?  How much water were you heating? If you only got lukewarm water after 12 hours it either isn’t a 3KW element or the thermostat is set at minimum.

[Smudger]

good points

ambient temp alone would result in a tepid starting temp - 12 hours in this should be right up there temp wise
Darran

[Dry Clean]

Just save yourself the money and use cold, hot is not nessasary,(without opening up the hot V cold debate), even the most dedicated users of hot only claim a 3 or 4 % improvement in time spent on the glass and many hundreds on here operate succesfully with cold pure, 24/7/365 days a year, so basically why bother !!! Tiny savings v High danger risk v bad cost efectiveness.
I always thught businessmen had to maxmise profitability not expenditure.

Philip how would you even measure 3 or 4% ? this is nothing more than wanting the latest mobile phone and making up excuses to buy one, that said if fitted and used right a good quality LPG heater is safe enough,

[Dave Willis]

I disagree, the heater could be safe but any gas leak from the bottle, regulator or pipework is a bomb in the making. My regulator leaked, I was lucky and got away with it. Had the gas ignited I dread to think what could have happened.
Think about it, any gas leak is going to fill the back of the van, all that gas around your battery terminals, controller, pump, boiler and connections ........ madness.

[dazmond]

Ive had a 3kw element on for 12 hours last night, warm water is all I'm cleaning with today.

It does seem to help on them snail trails though, and Daz is right about being on the coast, some months are a nightmare.

I get pain in most of my joints and if hot can make things a little easier without paying too much then it could be for me.

id still go for a 9kw 2 man twin pump diesel heater mate......maybe you could get one second hand if you dont fancy shelling out for a brand new one?

[Status Check]

What boilers are you using?

I am talking to a local caravan boiler specialist, I'm enquiring about having 2 boilers professionally fitted.

I would like to know something about it all before I go.

If you are going to put the gas bottle in a sealed cabinet with a  gas ventilation grill in the cabinet floorI would suggest this one.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LPG-Propane-Gas-2-1GPM-Instant-Tankless-8L-min-FASTAR-Hot-Water-Heater-Boiler/123855696582?hash=item1cd65ff2c6:g:aHoAAOSwTQxdP7Vz