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Smudger

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Those with tubeless system....
« on: May 28, 2019, 05:17:01 pm »
So, still thinking of using the tubeless system - not keen on the fact I can't change the gooseneck, but thats not a killer as I do have spare poles around so could carry a spare...

However,  how does it work if I added say an extra 3 sections ?

how easy is the whole thing to take apart to clean the pole ?

cheers

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

andyM

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Re: Those with tubeless system....
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2019, 05:54:05 pm »
So, still thinking of using the tubeless system - not keen on the fact I can't change the gooseneck, but thats not a killer as I do have spare poles around so could carry a spare...

However,  how does it work if I added say an extra 3 sections ?
When adding extra pole sections I just pass the hose reel end (complete with rectus fitting) through the extra sections (bottom first), then join rectus to pole hose connector and add the extra pole sections to the pole. 

how easy is the whole thing to take apart to clean the pole ?
Dunno? I don't bother

cheers

Darran
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Dave Alexander

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Re: Those with tubeless system....
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2019, 06:08:41 pm »
Darran
                It's easy enough to set up the tubless system with a univalve ( I'm assuming your going to use a univalve) so that you can swap over a gooseneck without too much hassle, a little bit fiddly but I would say 3-4 minutes less with a bit of practice. The issue you will have is when you add new sections, now bear with me when I try to explain this.
Setting up a pole with the univalve will have you put the valve and the end stop and the male rectus fitting in to the small section, with this done you will put a spacer on to the small section, so that when you slide it back in to the rest of the pole, the male rectuse fitting ends up about three inches up from the bottom of the pole internaly, with an exceed ejector sleeve fitted to the end of your reel hose, push this up the pole and it connects easily enough.
If you put extra sections on, you will increase the distance of the male rectus fitting from the bottom of the pole, which may make it difficult to make the connection.The hose may get a bit wobbly also  you will have to stretch the hose a lot harder to get your fingers around the ejector sleeve to disconect.
If you add sections, you could make new spacers to keep the male rectus fitting the same distance from the bottom of the pole.

I hope this helps

Cookie

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Re: Those with tubeless system....
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2019, 06:24:06 pm »
So, still thinking of using the tubeless system - not keen on the fact I can't change the gooseneck, but thats not a killer as I do have spare poles around so could carry a spare...

If you use the Exceed setup (or method 2 below) I think you're correct in that you can't change the gooseneck very easily.  I bought the Exceed setup but didn't get on with it so now I've adopted the setup below (method 1) which allows you to change your gooseneck quite easily:

https://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/blog/hoseless/

However,  how does it work if I added say an extra 3 sections ?

Piece of cake (assuming your not using Exceed tubeless or method 2 above). You just need to make sure you leave a longer bit of pole hose dangling out of your closed 22 foot (or whatever) pole.

how easy is the whole thing to take apart to clean the pole ?


Again piece of cake (assuming your not using Exceed tubeless or method 2 above).

The only downside I found was extending section #1 since the rectus fitting  can get caught on the closed sections inside the pole. I now extend section#1 by pushing the pole hose upwards through the pole and then extend section#2 etc..  as normal - this takes some getting used to and I imagine some WFP users might not like this... Overall however I'm very happy with how it's working - been working like this for nearly a year now. I also use univalve btw.

andyM

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Re: Those with tubeless system....
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2019, 06:31:11 pm »
Darran
                If you put extra sections on, you will increase the distance of the male rectus fitting from the bottom of the pole, which may make it difficult to make the connection.The hose may get a bit wobbly also  you will have to stretch the hose a lot harder to get your fingers around the ejector sleeve to disconect.
If you add sections, you could make new spacers to keep the male rectus fitting the same distance from the bottom of the pole.

I hope this helps

I don't find this a problem?
If you couple the hose connections before sliding the extra pole sections together and then reverse the process when removing the pole sections it's very straight forward.
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Smudger

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Re: Those with tubeless system....
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2019, 09:49:59 pm »
Cheers guys
I'll read the blog tomorrow - been a bit busy this evening and got an eye injection at 08.30 - I should be able to do some reading from 11 o/clock

Cheers for the great replies

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

p1w1

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Re: Those with tubeless system....
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2019, 09:55:23 pm »
Cheers guys
I'll read the blog tomorrow - been a bit busy this evening and got an eye injection at 08.30 - I should be able to do some reading from 11 o/clock

Cheers for the great replies

Darran
:o id rather stick pins in my eyes then have that   ;D