[Smudger]

Good grief 80 ? - mind you if your offering cash in hand it’s not really employing

Good points in that getting the first one up and running is a big learning curve but really if you’ve trained them well most of the above doesn’t happen very often - and if you really are constantly worrying ..about that then employing is not for you.

Darran

[dazmond]

Good grief 80 ? - mind you if your offering cash in hand it’s not really employing

Good points in that getting the first one up and running is a big learning curve but really if you’ve trained them well most of the above doesn’t happen very often - and if you really are constantly worrying ..about that then employing is not for you.

Darran

yes mate........over a 17 year period when on the ladders(i spent 17 years trad before switching to WFP 9 years ago).....

[Stoots]

Good grief 80 ? - mind you if your offering cash in hand it’s not really employing

Good points in that getting the first one up and running is a big learning curve but really if you’ve trained them well most of the above doesn’t happen very often - and if you really are constantly worrying ..about that then employing is not for you.

Darran

yes mate........over a 17 year period when on the ladders(i spent 17 years trad before switching to WFP 9 years ago).....

Took you a while to figure out employing  wasn't for you then 

Why the hell did you employ 80 lol did you not think after 20 or so maybe something wasn't right haha

[dazmond]

Good grief 80 ? - mind you if your offering cash in hand it’s not really employing

Good points in that getting the first one up and running is a big learning curve but really if you’ve trained them well most of the above doesn’t happen very often - and if you really are constantly worrying ..about that then employing is not for you.

Darran

yes mate........over a 17 year period when on the ladders(i spent 17 years trad before switching to WFP 9 years ago).....

Took you a while to figure out employing  wasn't for you then 

Why the hell did you employ 80 lol did you not think after 20 or so maybe something wasn't right haha

some lasted only a few hours,others 3 days!haha...others were friends who had fallen on hard times,problem was if they were good friends we would end up in the pub at lunchtime sometimes then we never went back to work,some of them are dead now.......

[Crystal-clear]

Profit isn't always money in your pocket. Like I said, it's long term thinking. How many one man bands have mortgage payments effecting their bottom line? Also, I don't have 16 window cleaners, I have 16 employees. Some of them are a straight up overhead.

Maybe I do have more money than some but it isn't as much as you might think.

Soupy oh you changed your name!. A good statement to put it in perspective. Because once you pay expenses and VAT. Yes it's not what people think it is the other employees you have which are overheads though I'm assuming they're doing admin or something like that which makes them just an expense however beneficial to the business?
But if your window cleaner employees are making about £100 profit after VAT and expenses per van thats still good.
But I totally understand it's a big operation and some one man bands could chill out work when they like 4 days a week stay just under vat take a whole month off make better profit only and only manage themselves.

But like you say it's about the long-term and how the business can function trickling over even without you not just about the money.