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P @ F

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Heater update (diesel)
« on: May 24, 2019, 09:36:23 am »
Well it was lucky I didn’t sell up just yet as had a bit of a setback last week , turns out that mild steel is not man enough for the job!
I had the exhaust wrapped to keep the heat in , it worked too well and blew out the welding on the pipe seam  !
I have now built another one with an outer coil added to help cool the exhaust and do away with the heat wrap , will be testing today with feed temps and heater temps after warm up
I also am having a 304 stainless version made up , this should be a step closer to being able to sell a few of these things!

The blown pipe after 3 months at 400*c

I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

Smudger

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Re: Heater update (diesel)
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2019, 09:48:12 am »
Oh dear!lucky your not hman the tie wraps would defo have melted  ;D ;D

Keep up the good work

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

P @ F

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Re: Heater update (diesel)
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2019, 09:58:42 am »
Well that’s about it  ;D
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

nathankaye

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Re: Heater update (diesel)
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2019, 11:45:02 am »
Hurry up tho, you need to beat lee
 ;D ;D
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P @ F

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Re: Heater update (diesel)
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2019, 04:55:22 pm »
Results for today are better than previous setup , first picture is start temp in tank before heater switched on , second picture is at first job 15 minutes later  :D



I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

P @ F

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Re: Heater update (diesel)
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2019, 05:01:34 pm »
And this is water temp after 4 hours work , as the day goes on the supply water gets hotter due to the return to tank when the pole is off

I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

P @ F

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Re: Heater update (diesel)
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2019, 05:03:46 pm »
And finally a little pic of the latest model with the external coil added

I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

Jonny 87

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Re: Heater update (diesel)
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2019, 07:33:47 pm »
Your a clever cookie mate.

Keep up the good work.
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Den68

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Re: Heater update (diesel)
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2019, 07:38:17 pm »
Run it on heating oil runs cleaner less soot build up and from approx 50p per litre.

Spruce

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Re: Heater update (diesel)
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2019, 08:41:04 am »
Run it on heating oil runs cleaner less soot build up and from approx 50p per litre.

Where do you buy small quantities of heating oil from?
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P @ F

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Re: Heater update (diesel)
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2019, 10:57:53 am »
I can only get 500 delivered at a time and then only if it goes into a proper oil tank.
I have seen it on eBay at silly money, so not worth the bother.
I don’t get any sooting up at all anyway , the heater is always working full pelt and I can get 4 six hour days from my 10L tank so it’s not really an issue
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

P @ F

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Re: Heater update (diesel)
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2019, 11:11:38 am »
I’m going to redesign my hose reel today in aluminium and while it’s out I’m going to wrap the outer coil of the heater so it can take maximum heat from the burner tube , I should be able to program the diesel injection  so it runs on peanuts 🤪
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

nathankaye

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Re: Heater update (diesel)
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2019, 07:20:19 pm »
If you do sell any, once up n running. I will be interested.
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Ooooooog

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Re: Heater update (diesel)
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2019, 07:59:48 pm »
Run it on heating oil runs cleaner less soot build up and from approx 50p per litre.

Where do you buy small quantities of heating oil from?

You mean kerosene? Loads of filling stations sell it. About 60p/litre.
Maybe different in urban places I guess.

P @ F

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Re: Heater update (diesel)
« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2019, 01:32:41 am »
You wouldn’t be able to use kerosene as it kills the fuel pump within weeks , I hear 25% kero to 75% diesel is doable
Kerosene is about £7 a litre in the big diy stores and still silly money on eBay
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

Den68

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Re: Heater update (diesel)
« Reply #15 on: May 26, 2019, 11:19:16 am »
Run it on heating oil runs cleaner less soot build up and from approx 50p per litre.

Where do you buy small quantities of heating oil from?

Run it on heating oil runs cleaner less soot build up and from approx 50p per litre.

Where do you buy small quantities of heating oil from?

I don’t as I have oil central heating and buy 500l at a times then transfer by pump  into a 20l then into a 5l drum into my campervan for my diesel  heater.
The current price per litre is 47p from boiler juice.



Den68

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Re: Heater update (diesel)
« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2019, 11:26:54 am »
You wouldn’t be able to use kerosene as it kills the fuel pump within weeks , I hear 25% kero to 75% diesel is doable
Kerosene is about £7 a litre in the big diy stores and still silly money on eBay

Join the Chinese diesel heater face book many thousand use heating oil and don’t have a problem with the pump, I’m no mechanic so don’t quote me as these pump only push the fuel so not much to go wrong with them. One tipI got was the the pump is loud when using the original pump mount it resonates through the vechicle body was to suspended the pump from cable ties no more noise perfect for them cold winters nights.
Mine is The geniune 2kw heater they are like hens teeth to find as many listings for 2kw are down rated bigger 5kw.   

Den68

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Re: Heater update (diesel)
« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2019, 11:31:20 am »
I can only get 500 delivered at a time and then only if it goes into a proper oil tank.
I have seen it on eBay at silly money, so not worth the bother.
I don’t get any sooting up at all anyway , the heater is always working full pelt and I can get 4 six hour days from my 10L tank so it’s not really an issue

Running  them full is good  for prevention of soot build up but in a campervan can get very hot if on full.

P @ F

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Re: Heater update (diesel)
« Reply #18 on: May 26, 2019, 11:33:16 am »
I did that cable tie trick on my first install  !
I then mounted it properly as I like to hear what the pump is doing , plus I don’t sleep in my van  ;D
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

P @ F

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Re: Heater update (diesel)
« Reply #19 on: May 26, 2019, 11:37:24 am »
Tell me about hot , 5Kw in a Fiorino gets darn hot !!!
That’s why I had to fit the second coil, not too bad at all now though
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !