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Dry Clean

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Re: Rinse bar technique video.
« Reply #40 on: May 21, 2019, 02:17:19 pm »
If 20 experienced wfp'ers told him what would improve a product he would ignore it unless he agreed,  like he wouldn't even entertain/consider the possibility that he could be wrong!

Which is what DC, aka Ewan, does. And always has. As you have explained.

Lets be honest we all know what you are at, you're looking me to start on you let rip and hopefully get banned in the process,  the only reason you're using Ewan as an example is because you cant use the forums most banned member which is yourself.

Dry Clean

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Re: Rinse bar technique video.
« Reply #41 on: May 21, 2019, 02:35:31 pm »
Rinse bars, hot water etc doesn't necessarily give confidence to go faster!
You have a heavy flow of water and in more cases than not, a quicker flow.  You get the technique wrong and you can still streak/spot or even splash water where you don't want it to go, which can cause additional issues.
You can't just go out there and work faster without being good at what you do any way.

Some jus need confidence to try new things or new methods without holding themselves or others back because they are scared and play it down.  On this forum are members who have openly mentioned they have issues with over rinsing and the likes. They are not happy unless they have completely over rinsed the windows and some even feel that the brush shouldn't be on the window when doing so!  Now for these ones, that's fine and that's how they want to work and all is good. Others may push themselves out their comfort zone and realise that if they rinse a little less, all is still good. Whilst others still, don't have those issues and also have good technique but know that with an heavy flow of water and many jets or a rinse bar, what they are capable off and don't pull others down for not doing the same, but may offer advice.
Nathan as Iv said before anybody can choose to use what equipment they like, what ever helps them get the day in, its only when they make claims of it doing a better or quicker job and so on that it can be challenged on here, you have been critical of additives, parts per billion water and I'm sure a lot more, was this to pull those who use them and believe they work down or something else ? believe me when you're disagreeing with the opinions of others its never taken as advice.

Slacky

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Re: Rinse bar technique video.
« Reply #42 on: May 21, 2019, 03:01:00 pm »
If 20 experienced wfp'ers told him what would improve a product he would ignore it unless he agreed,  like he wouldn't even entertain/consider the possibility that he could be wrong!

Which is what DC, aka Ewan, does. And always has. As you have explained.

Lets be honest we all know what you are at, you're looking me to start on you let rip and hopefully get banned in the process,  the only reason you're using Ewan as an example is because you cant use the forums most banned member which is yourself.

Don’t be ridiculous. Why would I want you to let rip? Are you not in control of your actions?

Spotfree

  • Posts: 348
Re: Rinse bar technique video.
« Reply #43 on: May 21, 2019, 03:49:19 pm »
Rinse bars, hot water etc doesn't necessarily give confidence to go faster!
You have a heavy flow of water and in more cases than not, a quicker flow.  You get the technique wrong and you can still streak/spot or even splash water where you don't want it to go, which can cause additional issues.
You can't just go out there and work faster without being good at what you do any way.

Some jus need confidence to try new things or new methods without holding themselves or others back because they are scared and play it down.  On this forum are members who have openly mentioned they have issues with over rinsing and the likes. They are not happy unless they have completely over rinsed the windows and some even feel that the brush shouldn't be on the window when doing so!  Now for these ones, that's fine and that's how they want to work and all is good. Others may push themselves out their comfort zone and realise that if they rinse a little less, all is still good. Whilst others still, don't have those issues and also have good technique but know that with an heavy flow of water and many jets or a rinse bar, what they are capable off and don't pull others down for not doing the same, but may offer advice.


Nathan as Iv said before anybody can choose to use what equipment they like, what ever helps them get the day in, its only when they make claims of it doing a better or quicker job and so on that it can be challenged on here, you have been critical of additives, parts per billion water and I'm sure a lot more, was this to pull those who use them and believe they work down or something else ? believe me when you're disagreeing with the opinions of others its never taken as advice.

Thats where you always get it wrong, saying it makes "MY" day easier/quicker is not the same as saying its going to make everyone's day quicker.

Your simply trying to belittle others to make you feel better about you. You do it whenever the chance arises and take great pleasure in it.

nathankaye

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Re: Rinse bar technique video.
« Reply #44 on: May 21, 2019, 04:26:43 pm »
Rinse bars, hot water etc doesn't necessarily give confidence to go faster!
You have a heavy flow of water and in more cases than not, a quicker flow.  You get the technique wrong and you can still streak/spot or even splash water where you don't want it to go, which can cause additional issues.
You can't just go out there and work faster without being good at what you do any way.

Some jus need confidence to try new things or new methods without holding themselves or others back because they are scared and play it down.  On this forum are members who have openly mentioned they have issues with over rinsing and the likes. They are not happy unless they have completely over rinsed the windows and some even feel that the brush shouldn't be on the window when doing so!  Now for these ones, that's fine and that's how they want to work and all is good. Others may push themselves out their comfort zone and realise that if they rinse a little less, all is still good. Whilst others still, don't have those issues and also have good technique but know that with an heavy flow of water and many jets or a rinse bar, what they are capable off and don't pull others down for not doing the same, but may offer advice.
Nathan as Iv said before anybody can choose to use what equipment they like, what ever helps them get the day in, its only when they make claims of it doing a better or quicker job and so on that it can be challenged on here, you have been critical of additives, parts per billion water and I'm sure a lot more, was this to pull those who use them and believe they work down or something else ? believe me when you're disagreeing with the opinions of others its never taken as advice.

True, I have questioned the sensibleness of adding a substance into water that one's have gone to the trouble to purify in order to clean windows. The claim was that it made the windows shine and helps the brush to glide. I simply said, how water makes the brush slide anyway and questioned the shine ability ofthe windows afterwards.
However, I believe someone has already posted how vision and the likes had gunked up his tank and pumps.   
Yet I don't belittle the person doing so, or atleast, I hope I haven't.
With parts per billion compared to the standard parts per million which cleans Windows as standard, I have said its a sales gimmick and I still stand by that, as it certainly doesn't do anything to help clean quicker or more efficient. I also question the all important magic 000 tds which some choose to religiously stick too and accuse others of questionable work because they don't see the need to stick to the all important 000 tds. I question ones who stipulate that others are wrong based on them individuals not trying it and having a strong opinion based on nothing for their argument.
In might bite back a bit too often, and I think others take the bait way too quick as well, but we can't all agree on things every time as that would be boring
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Dry Clean

  • Posts: 8861
Re: Rinse bar technique video.
« Reply #45 on: May 21, 2019, 05:36:36 pm »
Rinse bars, hot water etc doesn't necessarily give confidence to go faster!
You have a heavy flow of water and in more cases than not, a quicker flow.  You get the technique wrong and you can still streak/spot or even splash water where you don't want it to go, which can cause additional issues.
You can't just go out there and work faster without being good at what you do any way.

Some jus need confidence to try new things or new methods without holding themselves or others back because they are scared and play it down.  On this forum are members who have openly mentioned they have issues with over rinsing and the likes. They are not happy unless they have completely over rinsed the windows and some even feel that the brush shouldn't be on the window when doing so!  Now for these ones, that's fine and that's how they want to work and all is good. Others may push themselves out their comfort zone and realise that if they rinse a little less, all is still good. Whilst others still, don't have those issues and also have good technique but know that with an heavy flow of water and many jets or a rinse bar, what they are capable off and don't pull others down for not doing the same, but may offer advice.
Nathan as Iv said before anybody can choose to use what equipment they like, what ever helps them get the day in, its only when they make claims of it doing a better or quicker job and so on that it can be challenged on here, you have been critical of additives, parts per billion water and I'm sure a lot more, was this to pull those who use them and believe they work down or something else ? believe me when you're disagreeing with the opinions of others its never taken as advice.

True, I have questioned the sensibleness of adding a substance into water that one's have gone to the trouble to purify in order to clean windows. The claim was that it made the windows shine and helps the brush to glide. I simply said, how water makes the brush slide anyway and questioned the shine ability ofthe windows afterwards.
However, I believe someone has already posted how vision and the likes had gunked up his tank and pumps.   
Yet I don't belittle the person doing so, or atleast, I hope I haven't.
With parts per billion compared to the standard parts per million which cleans Windows as standard, I have said its a sales gimmick and I still stand by that, as it certainly doesn't do anything to help clean quicker or more efficient. I also question the all important magic 000 tds which some choose to religiously stick too and accuse others of questionable work because they don't see the need to stick to the all important 000 tds. I question ones who stipulate that others are wrong based on them individuals not trying it and having a strong opinion based on nothing for their argument.
In might bite back a bit too often, and I think others take the bait way too quick as well, but we can't all agree on things every time as that would be boring

Who have I belittled on this thread Nathan ? In my opinion rinse bar users don't know how to WFP a window properly otherwise they wouldn't need to use something that doesn't make the slightest difference to the clean, I know this because many clean just as well and as quick without needing to use them, you are basically saying the same about additive and parts per billion
users, is there a polite way of telling  somebody they don't know what they are doing ?

nathankaye

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Re: Rinse bar technique video.
« Reply #46 on: May 21, 2019, 06:01:45 pm »
I didn't say you was belittling on this thread or others mate, that's your interpretation.
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s.w.c

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Re: Rinse bar technique video.
« Reply #47 on: May 21, 2019, 07:13:29 pm »
I thought I've seen it all, or read it all,