[H MAN]

Different type of ergonomic handle.
Have a natural grip on squeegee handle without the cramping and pain.
https://youtu.be/jVvCuSeMeX

[Ralphie]

Interesting video, however I have just had surgery on my wrist to repair the tendon which operates the  thumb.

The wear and tear is due to using the grip method on your post and not having  the thumb grip around objects as it was originally designed to do.

It is not in the grip but more to rest constant used joints and to stretch ligaments and tendons prior to use.

Any ergonomically designed object or tool seems to make things more comfortable but not always necessarily ideal for a repetitive use.

[H MAN]

Interesting video, however I have just had surgery on my wrist to repair the tendon which operates the  thumb.

The wear and tear is due to using the grip method on your post and not having  the thumb grip around objects as it was originally designed to do.

It is not in the grip but more to rest constant used joints and to stretch ligaments and tendons prior to use.

Any ergonomically designed object or tool seems to make things more comfortable but not always necessarily ideal for a repetitive use.

Yep hear what you saying that picture shows how people would hold a squeegee handle and you have to put a reasonable grip on it because you are gripping a circular handle.
So you tendons are already stretch before you actually start use it (as you pointed out. )
Have that square lock on the end like in video allows you to hold the squeegee in more natural way minimal  grip.
So do not have that stretched tendons prior to use.

[RPCCS]

Too late, already got it

[Ralphie]

hear what you are saying but putting a square peg in a round hole will not stop RSI, your video still shows the thumb running alongside the handle which forces added pressure to the tendon.

Whilst it is a common belief that RSI is restricted to wrists it isn't, any joint constantly used ie craning ones neck will cause RSI.

The only real way not to get a strain is too not overdo a task (work less), or pay BUPA and every time you need work related tendon tightening bite the bullet, have the op and sorted.

If the answer was a simple block on a squeegee then we would have seen it on Dragons Den and someone would be aking a tidy sum (now theirs an idea)!!!

[H MAN]

hear what you are saying but putting a square peg in a round hole will not stop RSI, your video still shows the thumb running alongside the handle which forces added pressure to the tendon.

Whilst it is a common belief that RSI is restricted to wrists it isn't, any joint constantly used ie craning ones neck will cause RSI.

The only real way not to get a strain is too not overdo a task (work less), or pay BUPA and every time you need work related tendon tightening bite the bullet, have the op and sorted.

If the answer was a simple block on a squeegee then we would have seen it on Dragons Den and someone would be aking a tidy sum (now theirs an idea)!!!

And the answer is exactly that.
Take 2 minute to put one on, don't know how much they are in UK.
One of these.
And if you go on FackBook group below you can see how we put these on different handles.
HELP WINDOW CLEANERS WITH GRIPPING PAIN PROBLEMS GROUP
https://www.facebook.com/groups/132173454393351/?ref=group_header

[H MAN]

Too late, already got it

Never too late 

[windowswashed]

When I was a trad cleaner I had RSI in both my wrists. Had two massive lumps on my wrists and was told I had wrapped my ligaments around my tenons and badly needed an operation to untangle them. It was very painful but I refused to have the operation on both my wrists and cure the problem myself. I had caused it myself by wringing out cloths and exerting too much pressure on my wrists using manual screwdrivers tightening clamps and things and DIY jobs around the house. So I completely stopped doing everything that had led up to me developing RSI and within 6 months my ligaments had untangled from my tenons , the lumps had disappeared and so had all the pain. I did not need an operation on my wrists and my doctor said I had done well to overcome the problem that I had created in the first place. To this day and forever more I will never do any activity that involves repetitive injury, lesson learned the hard way. Prevention is better than cure and the thing to remember is anything s possible if we are determined enough to find the solution.

[H MAN]

When I was a trad cleaner I had RSI in both my wrists. Had two massive lumps on my wrists and was told I had wrapped my ligaments around my tenons and badly needed an operation to untangle them. It was very painful but I refused to have the operation on both my wrists and cure the problem myself. I had caused it myself by wringing out cloths and exerting too much pressure on my wrists using manual screwdrivers tightening clamps and things and DIY jobs around the house. So I completely stopped doing everything that had led up to me developing RSI and within 6 months my ligaments had untangled from my tenons , the lumps had disappeared and so had all the pain. I did not need an operation on my wrists and my doctor said I had done well to overcome the problem that I had created in the first place. To this day and forever more I will never do any activity that involves repetitive injury, lesson learned the hard way. Prevention is better than cure and the thing to remember is anything s possible if we are determined enough to find the solution.

                                                    THIS IS WHY WE DEVELOPED THIS
So you are not alone over 40 years ago had an industrial accident where had right hand caught at wrist right at the joint in a brick machine which nearly cut my hand off!!!.

At that stage micro surgury was very new had a few tendon cut.
Never the less they did mange to fix it.

However left me with very restrictive movement in the wrist.
You can probable see in the videos we do.

At the time Doctor said in time would probably develop arthritis at the wrist, as it did about when started Cleaning Windows.

Right from the start already see that it was going to be a problem using squeegees which it was.
Due to the restricted movement wrist and the arthritis witch was also in the hands.

Been documenting all the ways / things put it on YouTube so to not only to be able to look back on what may of done incorrectly.

But also show people that may of being in the same boat as me, but maybe inspire them to think something as well.

After hundreds of video ideas, and thousands hours working in a shed on all new ideas.

Inside over 13 years probably more.

We came up with this know it’s very simple but worked for me.

So because it is very easy to mod the handle could please at lest give it a try.
SO THAT’S ABOUT IT!!!

[Crystal-clear]

It's funny this subject as come up I mean I have issues with my elbow golfer's elbow and I've had Achilles heel with shoes as well which are really nasty.
But I have this pain that has come out of nowhere around my wrist just under the knuckle on the thumb. It goes around my wrist area but I never had it before. I've been doing boxing in the gym. And I think I caught my thumb. 3 days prior to that my bird just clicked both my thumbs like pressing below the knuckle. Her idea was a bit of a party trick however I was pain free until I went boxing but the doctors seem to think it could be something repetitive the mornings seem really bad the knuckles clicking around every time I move it. It's been about a month. The morning is the worst after about half an hour it settles down I can get through the work but I'm moderately concerned about it.
When it comes to operations and tendons the NHS don't seem to want to entertain them did you pay for it privately who consulted you?
Just that I have had a lot of arguments with them about my Achilles heel and golfer's elbow

[Smudger]

[Ralphie]

As previously stated, I had my right thumb tendon released  and has been brilliant ever since (4 months).  I told my doctor I needed referring to a hand specialist as I could not do my job, would have to stop, become another statistic etc etc and he referred.

I was initially sent to a physio who offered steroid injections which did not work and referred me to hand specialist, she met me within one month , operated one month later and never looked back, she has even booked me in to do my left thumb.

Does not work for everyone but did for me.

As previously stated RSI is for every joint not just wrists and managing it is down to individuals.

[Crystal-clear]

As previously stated, I had my right thumb tendon released  and has been brilliant ever since (4 months).  I told my doctor I needed referring to a hand specialist as I could not do my job, would have to stop, become another statistic etc etc and he referred.

I was initially sent to a physio who offered steroid injections which did not work and referred me to hand specialist, she met me within one month , operated one month later and never looked back, she has even booked me in to do my left thumb.

Does not work for everyone but did for me.

As previously stated RSI is for every joint not just wrists and managing it is down to individuals.

Lucky you sounds like you met a very nice doctor on the NHS.

[Ralphie]

Don’t mind saying but I have been called a bit of a hunk and the surgeon was a lady. 

[H MAN]

Anyway all you have to do is try it .
2minute job if that.
Can do on just about any squeegee handle.
If doesn't  work for you  .
You can still use it to put on your WF brush.
If you not sure how it is done .
Can put videos on how we did it if you like.

[dazmond]

i dont understand.....i was trad for 17 years and never suffered from RSI....ive also played drums on and off for over 30 years....i dont see how you can just using a squeegee,T mop and a cloth!

[H MAN]

i dont understand.....i was trad for 17 years and never suffered from RSI....ive also played drums on and off for over 30 years....i dont see how you can just using a squeegee,T mop and a cloth!

Yes  there plenty people that not having these problems using squeegees.
But this is for the people that do have the problem.
Believe most people that do develop  RSI end up giving the Window Cleaning up.
Why?
Because there is no place to find if there is an alterative to using  squeegees.
Had a person say if you can't get the idea to use a squeegee should look for another trad.
All because the handle on most squeegees do not take in account of the end user .
So this is why offering a solution that helps using a squeegee .
So it's OK to be sceptical.
But if you do have RSI problems using window squeegee.
Wouldn't you at least try it??

 

[Shrek]

Don’t mind saying but I have been called a bit of a hunk and the surgeon was a ladyboy . 

 

[H MAN]

So for the people that might want to know how we do this here is a few videos.
DUEL USES SQUARE LOCK ERGONOMICAL GRIPING SQUEEGEE HANDLES
https://youtu.be/-vUjkj_SWdM

SQUARE LOCK ON MOERMAN SQUEEGEE HANDLE FOR POLE WORK
https://youtu.be/XcFCkAD8-2M

WIEAGLE- LOH CONVERSION ON WAGTAIL SQUEEGEE HANDLE
https://youtu.be/DmodVS0AtTs

[Slacky]

Don’t mind saying but I have been called a bit of a lady-boy.

I’m sure you have.