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Granny

  • Posts: 823
Re: 4 weekly to monthly?
« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2019, 11:42:42 am »
All are monthly some asked for 8 weeks but they are on two months it's easier to manage.
It fits the calendar nicely, just follow on same date next month.
Most people get paid monthly now we let them choose when they want the payment to go out as more and more are on standing order.


dazmond

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Re: 4 weekly to monthly?
« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2019, 11:52:11 am »
I don't see the point....you'll lose at least a couple of grand a year switching from 4 weekly to monthly and the windows will be slightly dirtier.....

Also I move my schedule forward a week or two when its holiday time anyway so some 4 weekly becomes monthly anyway so 12 cleans a year but if I was monthly it would be 11 cleans per year....also it would knock my 8 weekly work out of sync too(that are next door to 4 weekly work on the same round)....so it would make  these jobs 10 weekly.....err...no thanks!

I reckon Id lose around 3k a year....

So that's 30k LESS in 10 years.....enough to pay for my van, grippa hot system,electric reel and xtreme poles.......

Just to add I only work part time hours these days(5 or 6 hrs a day)4-5 days a week....

price higher/work harder!

Shrek

  • Posts: 3931
Re: 4 weekly to monthly?
« Reply #22 on: April 14, 2019, 12:35:51 pm »
I don't see the point....you'll lose at least a couple of grand a year switching from 4 weekly to monthly and the windows will be slightly dirtier.....

Also I move my schedule forward a week or two when its holiday time anyway so some 4 weekly becomes monthly anyway so 12 cleans a year but if I was monthly it would be 11 cleans per year....also it would knock my 8 weekly work out of sync too(that are next door to 4 weekly work on the same round)....so it would make  these jobs 10 weekly.....err...no thanks!

I reckon Id lose around 3k a year....

So that's 30k LESS in 10 years.....enough to pay for my van, grippa hot system,electric reel and xtreme poles.......

Wrong  ::)roll

My customers get 12 cleans a year if monthly.
2 & 3 monthly roll into monthly work no problem

nathankaye

  • Posts: 5366
Re: 4 weekly to monthly?
« Reply #23 on: April 14, 2019, 01:03:02 pm »
Also to note, ones who rigidly stick to 4weekly rotas, does not equate to not enjoying time off and certainly does not mean it has to be stressful.

Or atleast for myself it isnt.  I didnt work rigidly Mon to Friday each week, as many will know.  I worked my segmented round at the begining of each week and when it was finished, I enjoyed time off till the next Monday when it was the start of the round for that particular week. It wasn't dependant upon a day of the week, but rather assigned to the week of such n such.
However, I'm now condensing it further into solid working weeks and completing the work in three weeks, leaving the fourth for add ons (but soon to be building a completely new round else where)
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KS Cleaning

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Re: 4 weekly to monthly?
« Reply #24 on: April 14, 2019, 03:48:48 pm »
I really can’t see any benefit of changing  over to monthly from 4 weekly, unless of course you are stacked with work and struggling to keep to a 4 weekly schedule. In effect all you are doing is  reducing your income. The OP says he only has 16 days work so if it’s time off he wants he could work 3 weeks of 5 days and almost have a free week on the 4th week, or 2 half days on a Saturday would give him the 4th week off.

Shrek

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Re: 4 weekly to monthly?
« Reply #25 on: April 14, 2019, 04:06:31 pm »
this year each month is easily done if you’ve got around 16 working days. If you have more and only work part time , then you could always work an extra hour or so each day to condense your work. You end up having around 1 week of per month or 3 months off a year!

January 2019 - 22 working days , not including weekends.
February- 20
March- 21
April- 19
May- 17
June - 20
July - 23
Aug- 21
Sep- 21
Oct- 23
Nov- 21
Dec- 16 ( working TIL 23rd)

dazmond

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Re: 4 weekly to monthly?
« Reply #26 on: April 14, 2019, 04:56:25 pm »
I don't see the point....you'll lose at least a couple of grand a year switching from 4 weekly to monthly and the windows will be slightly dirtier.....

Also I move my schedule forward a week or two when its holiday time anyway so some 4 weekly becomes monthly anyway so 12 cleans a year but if I was monthly it would be 11 cleans per year....also it would knock my 8 weekly work out of sync too(that are next door to 4 weekly work on the same round)....so it would make  these jobs 10 weekly.....err...no thanks!

I reckon Id lose around 3k a year....

So that's 30k LESS in 10 years.....enough to pay for my van, grippa hot system,electric reel and xtreme poles.......

Wrong  ::)roll

My customers get 12 cleans a year if monthly.
2 & 3 monthly roll into monthly work no problem

i guess you dont take at least 4 weeks off for holidays then?...i do every year....
price higher/work harder!

Shrek

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Re: 4 weekly to monthly?
« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2019, 05:15:57 pm »
I don't see the point....you'll lose at least a couple of grand a year switching from 4 weekly to monthly and the windows will be slightly dirtier.....

Also I move my schedule forward a week or two when its holiday time anyway so some 4 weekly becomes monthly anyway so 12 cleans a year but if I was monthly it would be 11 cleans per year....also it would knock my 8 weekly work out of sync too(that are next door to 4 weekly work on the same round)....so it would make  these jobs 10 weekly.....err...no thanks!

I reckon Id lose around 3k a year....

So that's 30k LESS in 10 years.....enough to pay for my van, grippa hot system,electric reel and xtreme poles.......

Wrong  ::)roll

My customers get 12 cleans a year if monthly.
2 & 3 monthly roll into monthly work no problem

i guess you dont take at least 4 weeks off for holidays then?...i do every year....

this year each month is easily done if you’ve got around 16 working days. If you have more and only work part time , then you could always work an extra hour or so each day to condense your work. You end up having around 1 week of per month or 3 months off a year!

January 2019 - 22 working days , not including weekends.
February- 20
March- 21
April- 19
May- 17
June - 20
July - 23
Aug- 21
Sep- 21
Oct- 23
Nov- 21
Dec- 16 ( working TIL 23rd)

Yep I do  :)

Slacky

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Re: 4 weekly to monthly?
« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2019, 05:34:31 pm »
There you go Slacky - it was worth starting this thread - if only to receive your well thought out input!  ;D

Yea but he’s a Jock, it doesnt count if youre a Jock.

Stoots

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Re: 4 weekly to monthly?
« Reply #29 on: April 14, 2019, 06:39:12 pm »
Firstly no one will notice so there's no problem there.

Mines supposed to be 4 weekly but I'm always behind.

So may as well have them 4 weekly and just be behind regularly, same thing apart from you can earn more of you want to.

For me it's pointless having a set schedule, whether it's 4 weekly, monthly or whatever I'd still end up being behind all the time because I'd fill it whatever the frequency.

Spotfree

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Re: 4 weekly to monthly?
« Reply #30 on: April 14, 2019, 08:31:01 pm »
I work 4 days and a Saturday morning for first cleans if needed.


So I get 2 1/2- 3 days off per week, I take 4 weeks off each year so I only do 12 cleans per year. I haven't had any time off since Xmas, and won't be getting any till August when the kids are off. If I change to monthly it won't affect my turnover at all, I can afford to lose a month no problem next year, but this year I'm going for a re-mortgage so need max turnover.


I'm not sure I would like the 3 full weeks of graft before I get the week + off at the end, also my customers are used to me turning up on a certain day not date. The days would change each month, prolly ok for most but would get the odd complaint I'm sure.


Ive got till the end of the month to decide yet.

Shrek

  • Posts: 3931
Re: 4 weekly to monthly?
« Reply #31 on: April 14, 2019, 08:35:55 pm »
I work 4 days and a Saturday morning for first cleans if needed.


So I get 2 1/2- 3 days off per week, I take 4 weeks off each year so I only do 12 cleans per year. I haven't had any time off since Xmas, and won't be getting any till August when the kids are off. If I change to monthly it won't affect my turnover at all, I can afford to lose a month no problem next year, but this year I'm going for a re-mortgage so need max turnover.


I'm not sure I would like the 3 full weeks of graft before I get the week + off at the end, also my customers are used to me turning up on a certain day not date. The days would change each month, prolly ok for most but would get the odd complaint I'm sure.


Ive got till the end of the month to decide yet.

I doubt anyone will complain that you’ve come on a Wednesday instead of a Monday - they’re quite sad if they do ☹️.

Slacky

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Re: 4 weekly to monthly?
« Reply #32 on: April 14, 2019, 09:44:43 pm »
I work 4 days and a Saturday morning for first cleans if needed.


So I get 2 1/2- 3 days off per week, I take 4 weeks off each year so I only do 12 cleans per year. I haven't had any time off since Xmas, and won't be getting any till August when the kids are off. If I change to monthly it won't affect my turnover at all, I can afford to lose a month no problem next year, but this year I'm going for a re-mortgage so need max turnover.


I'm not sure I would like the 3 full weeks of graft before I get the week + off at the end, also my customers are used to me turning up on a certain day not date. The days would change each month, prolly ok for most but would get the odd complaint I'm sure.


Ive got till the end of the month to decide yet.

I doubt anyone will complain that you’ve come on a Wednesday instead of a Monday - they’re quite sad if they do ☹️.

Exactly. Can’t understand the thread.

Stoots

  • Posts: 6211
Re: 4 weekly to monthly?
« Reply #33 on: April 15, 2019, 12:21:45 pm »
I think we should be aiming for a lot more than 4 weeks off a year. After all that's what employed people get...well 5.

I must have about 3 months off when i factor in odd days and half days and rain days etc

֍Winp®oClean֍

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Re: 4 weekly to monthly?
« Reply #34 on: April 15, 2019, 12:33:41 pm »
I don't particularly have a schedule, roughly 2 monthly, a few commercials are more rigid. I just go out and work, maximize each day and take time off whenever it suites me and not the customers! Couldn't tell you who has how many cleans per year- neither am I interested, they get done when they get done within reason. Nobody seems to know (or particularly care) whether I'm a little late or early.👍
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Johnny B

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Re: 4 weekly to monthly?
« Reply #35 on: April 15, 2019, 12:58:49 pm »
Until the end of last year I had customers on frequencies that they asked for, ranging from 2,4,6,8,12 weekly, as well as others who want them done as and when, plus the weekly shop fronts that I do.

It worked fine until I started to be so inundated that it became unworkable. From the beginning of this year I standardised the frequency of the 4,6 and 8 weeklies to 6 weekly. I didn't inform any customers but no-one has said anything. The shops of course remained the same, as did the one 2 weekly that I have. The 12 weeklies fit in with the schedule nicely too.

This created some gaps in my schedule, but I have found that my income has, if anything, increased due to actually being able to fit work in where before some areas were skipped when I couldn't keep up. I have a lot of ad-hoc customers which fill in any gaps as required, along with gutter cleans.

John

Being diplomatic is being able to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip.

dazmond

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Re: 4 weekly to monthly?
« Reply #36 on: April 15, 2019, 01:25:32 pm »
I think we should be aiming for a lot more than 4 weeks off a year. After all that's what employed people get...well 5.

I must have about 3 months off when i factor in odd days and half days and rain days etc

why?employed people have to work full time and will work a lot more hours over the course of a year than i do...

i will have a full 2 weeks off when i go to mexico in june,a week at xmas and another week around oct time....thats enough for me....im only working 20-25 hours a week as it is..... :)
price higher/work harder!

dazmond

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Re: 4 weekly to monthly?
« Reply #37 on: April 15, 2019, 05:05:52 pm »
A full working week for me sometimes includes a Monday or a Friday off or on the odd occasion a 3 day week
price higher/work harder!

Stoots

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Re: 4 weekly to monthly?
« Reply #38 on: April 16, 2019, 04:35:47 pm »
I think we should be aiming for a lot more than 4 weeks off a year. After all that's what employed people get...well 5.

I must have about 3 months off when i factor in odd days and half days and rain days etc

why?employed people have to work full time and will work a lot more hours over the course of a year than i do...

i will have a full 2 weeks off when i go to mexico in june,a week at xmas and another week around oct time....thats enough for me....im only working 20-25 hours a week as it is..... :)

Why?

Because imo we should always be aiming to improve our level in life

What's the point of having a business to only have what an employed job brings.

I don't really agree either with the hours thing. I don't think theres that much in it.

I usually work 25-30 hours a week on the glass but when you factor in all the rest of it it probably brings it up to about 40 hours.


dazmond

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Re: 4 weekly to monthly?
« Reply #39 on: April 16, 2019, 04:48:51 pm »
I think we should be aiming for a lot more than 4 weeks off a year. After all that's what employed people get...well 5.

I must have about 3 months off when i factor in odd days and half days and rain days etc

why?employed people have to work full time and will work a lot more hours over the course of a year than i do...

i will have a full 2 weeks off when i go to mexico in june,a week at xmas and another week around oct time....thats enough for me....im only working 20-25 hours a week as it is..... :)

Why?

Because imo we should always be aiming to improve our level in life

What's the point of having a business to only have what an employed job brings.

I don't really agree either with the hours thing. I don't think theres that much in it.

I usually work 25-30 hours a week on the glass but when you factor in all the rest of it it probably brings it up to about 40 hours.

im perfectly happy with working the hours i work....

like ive said in a previous thread....all i ever wanted was a low stress flexible part time job with very good pay......ive achieved that so im content now..... :)
price higher/work harder!