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Spotfree

  • Posts: 348
4 weekly to monthly?
« on: April 13, 2019, 08:25:26 pm »
I'm considering changing from 4 weekly to monthly because I like the idea of finishing the work over the month and taking whatever is left off.

I currently have a 4-day week schedule which gives me 16 days each month, I think I might prefer having a long week off each month to having a Friday off each week. I do any first cleans or whatever on Saturday mornings.


Has anyone changed from 4 weekly to monthly? How has it worked out?


Also, the holiday aspect could cause an issue, I take 4 weeks off each year,2 winter, 2 summer. If I changed to monthly then I would lose 1 clean each year.

Shrek

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Re: 4 weekly to monthly?
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2019, 08:46:47 pm »
I’m monthly / 2 monthly/ 3 monthly. It works perfect for me , I start at the beginning of the month and take the end of the month off ( whatever is left) every month , which always works out perfect for Christmas.
I could never get my head round 4 weekly cleans , especially when you could end up going to the same house twice in one month?

Re: 4 weekly to monthly?
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2019, 09:21:30 pm »
I know someone who is 4 weekly on a 5 weekly rota e.g. they work weeks 1,2,3 and 4 with 5 th week off and then repeat.

Spotfree

  • Posts: 348
Re: 4 weekly to monthly?
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2019, 09:25:41 pm »
Some of the more "senior" and even not so can't get their head around it either, it's just how I started a decade ago and it's always been that way since.

I was thinking that if I wanted time off for holidays I could work say the beginning of July till alls done around the 20th and take the beginning of August off giving me nearly 3 weeks.

alank

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Re: 4 weekly to monthly?
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2019, 09:53:09 pm »
Used to clean four weekly then changed to monthly as I would rather have time off in a block at end of month. I have all my big hitters done early in the month and all the jobs that involve any mileage done early on, then as the month draws to a close I'm mainly working closer to home and ready for a couple of days off ;D

capn sparkle

  • Posts: 567
Re: 4 weekly to monthly?
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2019, 09:57:33 pm »
8 yrs ago I started my round with 6 and 12 weekly options - over the years this has become 2 monthly for all customers. Dropped and or stopped taking on 12 weekly (3 monthly) changed the rest to 2 monthly.

Advantage with this method (some would disagree I'm sure) is you can take time off whenever you like as no-one is precisely sure when you're due. Only WC's are obsessed with clean schedules, most customers are happy with clean windows, a week late here or there isn't at the top of their list of worries.

And you can charge more per visit for 2 monthly  ;D ;D ;D 

AuRavelling79

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Re: 4 weekly to monthly?
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2019, 10:04:47 pm »
Most of my residential customers are 8 weekly. All my new customers are guided towards this schedule. However I tell them when I take them on that due to Xmas, sickness, my holidays etc that it might stretch by a day or two or even to 9 weeks or that if their cleaning day falls on a bank holiday it might be a day or two less than 8 weeks.

Generally I do work to 8 weeks but this gives me flexibility so that if I take a week off I can block it out or work like Billy Whizz a day or two before I go on hols. Once cleaned the 8 weeks starts again from that date.
It's a game of three halves!

Slacky

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Re: 4 weekly to monthly?
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2019, 10:49:00 pm »
4 weekly to monthly?

Is there that big a difference it requires addressing in an internet forum?

Cookie

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Re: 4 weekly to monthly?
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2019, 11:11:43 pm »
For my 4 weekly customers I explain the service is approximately 4 weekly/monthly.
For my 8 weekly customers I explain the service is approximately 8 weekly/bi-monthly.

Keeps things flexible from my point of view and TBH (apart from the odd one or two who may comment) the customers don't even notice. I try not to be a 'slave' to my round.


Cookie

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Re: 4 weekly to monthly?
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2019, 11:34:01 pm »
I know someone who is 4 weekly on a 5 weekly rota e.g. they work weeks 1,2,3 and 4 with 5 th week off and then repeat.

But as far as the customer is concerned that's 5 weekly  ???

nathankaye

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Re: 4 weekly to monthly?
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2019, 12:08:59 am »
I work 4 weekly, although I have introduced more 8 weekly work now as well.
However the 4 wkly work used to be one week per round or 2 rounds within the week. (I break my work into rounds, belonging to different areas).  Normally working around 4 days per week and having 3 day wknds to enjoy. However with the thoughts of moving, I now work through each week until the work is done and this is normally by the end of week 3 and week 4 is either my add on days ie render cleans etc or soon to be, canvassing days in Stirling.
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Ooooooog

  • Posts: 1083
Re: 4 weekly to monthly?
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2019, 07:11:42 am »
I just do mine when I get time, or if they call up asking why I’m late.

Arnold Palmer

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Re: 4 weekly to monthly?
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2019, 07:38:22 am »
I switched from monthly to 4 weekly. Didn't bother mentioning it to existing customers. Nobody noticed.
#aliens

tlwcs

  • Posts: 2088
Re: 4 weekly to monthly?
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2019, 08:19:54 am »
I did it. My rounds now start from the first Monday of the month.
It will cost you a months turnover from 13 to 12 cleans, but if you do 16 work days it will give time off each month.
After 18 years I enjoy the time off more than the money.
Tony

AuRavelling79

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Re: 4 weekly to monthly?
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2019, 08:43:18 am »
4 weekly to monthly?

Is there that big a difference it requires addressing in an internet forum?

Enough of a difference that several posters have added their thoughts.

Those sole operators that rigidly do 4 weeks get an extra clean in per year - adding between, what? £1K and £4K per year to their turn over?

Those that don't get to enjoy greater flexibility.
It's a game of three halves!

Re: 4 weekly to monthly?
« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2019, 08:45:46 am »
I know someone who is 4 weekly on a 5 weekly rota e.g. they work weeks 1,2,3 and 4 with 5 th week off and then repeat.

But as far as the customer is concerned that's 5 weekly  ???
Yes

Slacky

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Re: 4 weekly to monthly?
« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2019, 09:10:57 am »
4 weekly to monthly?

Is there that big a difference it requires addressing in an internet forum?

Enough of a difference that several posters have added their thoughts.

Those sole operators that rigidly do 4 weeks get an extra clean in per year - adding between, what? £1K and £4K per year to their turn over?

Those that don't get to enjoy greater flexibility.

All it requires is a full round to ensure you get the max possible from your work.

Go out, work a full day, come home. Repeat.

Arnold Palmer

  • Posts: 20800
Re: 4 weekly to monthly?
« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2019, 09:38:17 am »
The switch from monthly to 4 weekly was a 7.5% increase in turnover for us, without any further investment.
#aliens

AuRavelling79

  • Posts: 25402
Re: 4 weekly to monthly?
« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2019, 09:38:53 am »
There you go Slacky - it was worth starting this thread - if only to receive your well thought out input!  ;D
It's a game of three halves!

dazmond

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Re: 4 weekly to monthly?
« Reply #19 on: April 14, 2019, 11:39:55 am »
I don't see the point....you'll lose at least a couple of grand a year switching from 4 weekly to monthly and the windows will be slightly dirtier.....

Also I move my schedule forward a week or two when its holiday time anyway so some 4 weekly becomes monthly anyway so 12 cleans a year but if I was monthly it would be 11 cleans per year....also it would knock my 8 weekly work out of sync too(that are next door to 4 weekly work on the same round)....so it would make  these jobs 10 weekly.....err...no thanks!

I reckon Id lose around 3k a year....

So that's 30k LESS in 10 years.....enough to pay for my van, grippa hot system,electric reel and xtreme poles.......

price higher/work harder!