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Jonesy54

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Gardiner extreme poles
« on: March 09, 2019, 12:54:31 pm »
Could anyone that uses the Extreme poles please tell me if they are worth the extra.im currently using the SLX22 . Also can use the univalve on them and are they hard to maintain

simon w

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Re: Gardiner extreme poles
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2019, 01:41:59 pm »
Depends on how many hours you spend on the glass your physical strength/condition and whether you have any disabilities.

My staff and I put in a lot of hours on the glass Mon-Fri 8-5pm and use this time to get through as much work as possible.  We only use Xtreme poles three 25 feet and two 47 feet with extra sections to take us up to around 65 feet. We also use the Xtreme brushes for almost all of our work.  As a sole trader you'd get several years out of an Xtreme pole and only really requires basic maintenance like occasional cleaning but regular wiping the pole hose clean after use to prevent grit and dirt build up inside the sections.  Good value for money in my opinion considering the return you'll get from using it over a year or two.  Can't answer your question on the Univalve as we don't use them.

dazmond

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Re: Gardiner extreme poles
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2019, 02:08:05 pm »
Could anyone that uses the Extreme poles please tell me if they are worth the extra.im currently using the SLX22 . Also can use the univalve on them and are they hard to maintain

univalves work fine with xtreme poles......

they wont last as long as an SLX....youll be lucky to get 18 months out of an xtreme everyday pole where an SLX will last twice as long at a cheaper price too.....

i prefer the xtremes for ease of use and making working days easier....
price higher/work harder!

dazmond

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Re: Gardiner extreme poles
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2019, 02:11:18 pm »
maintenance is the same for all carbon poles,clean the pole hose after every job,flush out the sections with water every so often and spray sections with a dry PTFE lubricant from time to time....
price higher/work harder!

Stoots

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Re: Gardiner extreme poles
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2019, 02:17:38 pm »
I have a 25. It's a great pole at that length but I still use my slx 18 as a day to day pole where I can as it's much more robust. The extreme wouldn't last long used everyday at least not in my hands.

wayne m

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Re: Gardiner extreme poles
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2019, 04:03:59 pm »
I have the facelift phantom hi-mod 25 and and used to use the six 25 everyday but have to say it’s definitely worth getting a light as possible pole for working all day.

SB Cleaning

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Re: Gardiner extreme poles
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2019, 04:08:54 pm »
I wouldn't buy another extreme..

I have a SLX 22 and 25 and I much prefer them...I was breaking extreme sections left right and centre..the SLX is a lot more robust and still a light pole....Extremes a fairys pole imo  ;D


wayne m

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Re: Gardiner extreme poles
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2019, 04:59:12 pm »
Not sure if the phantom is a little stronger but I’m using it just like my slx, shutting windows, having it fully extended and so far so good no snapped sections. I’ve probably just jinxed myself now!!😊

simon w

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Re: Gardiner extreme poles
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2019, 05:33:13 pm »
Can't say we've ever had much problems with xtreme sections snapping and that's with employees using them as well. We've had the odd few snap over the years but that's after many months even years use and usually when trying to push a window shut. Easy enough to get a replacement so I don't begrudge the cost as I prefer to get the weight of the pole down as much as possible to limit physical fatigue when working as best I can

jonboywalton75

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Re: Gardiner extreme poles
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2019, 07:34:40 pm »
If I was using a 25 foot poll everyday I'd consider an extreme
I've had an 18 foot extreme and didn't get on with it at all, too weak.
My 18 foot slx and my supermax for about 10% of my work is a good compromise
If I had health problems I'd get an extreme just to be able to carry on working but I'd only get a short life from one
The Slx is a superb product IMHO

Cookie

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Re: Gardiner extreme poles
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2019, 08:40:59 pm »
I've been using an Extreme-18 as my every day pole for 6 months roughly with univalve & tubeless. As I use tubless the pole hose gets cleaned automatically every time I reel in. It's so light & rigid - just great! Best investment I've ever made & no broken sections (yet).

NB: If you ever need to close windows with an Extreme use extension 2 (rather than extension 1)

windowswashed

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Re: Gardiner extreme poles
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2019, 08:54:44 pm »
At 22 ft an extreme doesn't make much difference in comparison as an everyday pole for the benefits of lightness. The higher you go, the more you notice the difference in weight and that's when it comes in to being more beneficial for using for longer periods. I wouldn't recommend using an extreme over a normal pole for closing windows as they are weaker than a normal pole owing to thinner sections. Extreme poles are most beneficial for those with health problems and for prolonged use working at height. I wouldn't recommend using a heavy brush on an extreme pole.

Susan Dean (1stclean)

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Re: Gardiner extreme poles
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2019, 10:44:58 am »
we wouldn't go back to using a slx for a daily pole were extreme all the way our daily poles are extreme 47s  that get lots of hammer , we never clean them out or look after them and last around 2 years ish ,

 even in the uk when were back working there we only use extremes couldnt go back now worth every penny bot to have rsi in the elbows

Re: Gardiner extreme poles
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2019, 08:45:45 pm »

The ironic thing I feel, is why do some of us have these issues with health, shoulders, back, neck, knackered ribs, broken or snapped biceps

 it’s possibly due to working with heavier poles for many years, in a repetitive manner

When I first started I wouldn’t think twice about working all day with a tucker 35 on standard houses and never breaking it down or i remeber when I got my 40 foot OTT pole and omnipole 30 footer so light

But I was young, indistructable, and never thought about the cosquences of repitive work

WFP is more stressful on our bodies than we think

Work as light and as smart and as little as you can, life catches up at some point

mufcglen

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Re: Gardiner extreme poles
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2019, 06:58:43 am »
I used to doubt the double the slx price tag for an xtreme but after purchasing one around a year ago I wouldn’t go back, that extra little bit of lightness makes all the difference to my shoulders.
I found I started to add more work into my daily schedule and was easily doing another £40-50 a day so the pole has paid for itself and made me even more down to not being as tired and worn out using a heavier pole.
I strip mine down every 3-4 weeks and retape it and dry spray it however I snapped a section and gardiner replaced it because of the messing I had returning it for inspection, Alex did say he thought it was due to wear rather than faulty but I want so sure myself with it being 9-10 months old at the time however I still wouldn’t not have an xtreme again.
For sure I’d recommend one to anyone and say forget the price tag you’ll earn that money back easily!

jonboywalton75

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Re: Gardiner extreme poles
« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2019, 08:16:39 am »
I used to doubt the double the slx price tag for an xtreme but after purchasing one around a year ago I wouldn’t go back, that extra little bit of lightness makes all the difference to my shoulders.
I found I started to add more work into my daily schedule and was easily doing another £40-50 a day so the pole has paid for itself and made me even more down to not being as tired and worn out using a heavier pole.
I strip mine down every 3-4 weeks and retape it and dry spray it however I snapped a section and gardiner replaced it because of the messing I had returning it for inspection, Alex did say he thought it was due to wear rather than faulty but I want so sure myself with it being 9-10 months old at the time however I still wouldn’t not have an xtreme again.
For sure I’d recommend one to anyone and say forget the price tag you’ll earn that money back easily!

Agree with you if you're using much longer than an 18 all day, but I'm 62 and don't find that I could do any more with anything lighter
I broke a section on my slx 18 last week after 3 years use and had to use my supermax all day for 2 days, that was murder but my slx 18 that I use for 90% of my work feels the ideal compromise between weight and robustness

dazmond

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Re: Gardiner extreme poles
« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2019, 08:24:42 am »
if you can clean most of your work with an 18 footer then id say dont bother and stick with an SLX......

i need a 25 footer for most work so an xtreme 25 comes into its own at these heights esp awkward angle windows(i have a lot of these on some blocks of work).....
price higher/work harder!

Dry Clean

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Re: Gardiner extreme poles
« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2019, 08:28:39 am »
On a 22ft pole you wont notice a great difference in an SLX and Xtreme, its the brush that will make the biggest difference so keep it as light as possible.

robbo333

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Re: Gardiner extreme poles
« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2019, 08:30:11 am »
Extreme 22 for me, with 2 extra sections and Xteme stiff brush. Ta very much.
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NWH

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Re: Gardiner extreme poles
« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2019, 02:23:48 pm »
A SLX at any height totally different to an Extreme pole,if they are looked after they last years,I don’t keep clamping mine on the same part of the pole all the time,and every now and again I spray it with a clear laquer this puts months-years on the pole.
If you must shut windows with any pole the best way to do it I find is to turn the pole upside down and use the base to do this,if an Extreme section does snap if it’s a clean break the section no matter how small can still be used on the pole obviously you’ll need to wrap it with tape so you know when you’re near the end of the section but it can be done.