[Bungle]

Guess ive invented a 4th way then because its none of those 3!...............

Hot air 

[Dry Clean]

Guess ive invented a 4th way then because its none of those 3!...............

[DeLuce]

Guess ive invented a 4th way then because its none of those 3!...............

Maybe you  can channel your  inner chi to heat it up!!

Tbh, I thought this thread was a wind up.

[Perfect Windows]

Guess ive invented a 4th way then because its none of those 3!...............

For what it's worth, I can vouch for that.

Vin

[Dry Clean]

Guess ive invented a 4th way then because its none of those 3!...............

Maybe you  can channel your  inner chi to heat it up!!

Tbh, I thought this thread was a wind up.

No people on a wind up tend to have a sense of humour.

[AuRavelling79]

Dry Clean please give the constant sniping a rest it is not constructive.

[Dry Clean]

Dry Clean please give the constant sniping a rest it is not constructive.

Only the last two replies where sniping but if that's classed as constant then fair enough, I stand by what I said about his heater and his reasons for posting about it on here, time will tell if I'm right or wrong.

[Lee Pryor]

Indeed time will tell.

I am confident this will work. If it does every wfp user will be able to afford hot water without spending the best part of £5k!

My product will require no installation or the need to DIY anything. Be as easy as fitting a univalve to a pole.

Nothing like this on the market for our industry right now and I am confident that if it works as well as I hope no more diesel heaters will be sold from that point.

[Steve.a]

Good thread Lee

The hot water system sounds as if you're trying to find a way of redirecting the exhaust gasses from the vehicle to pass through a heat diffusing panel then back out of the vehicle.

Will wait and see if i am right

Also, i find that a lot of staff expect to be picked up from home at starting time and expect to be dropped off at finish time.
Are your guys expected to find their own way to work, do they arrive just on the dot of 7 o'clock or do they arrive early to set their stall out so to say. And does paid work start at 7 at the yard or when they arrive at first job, which may be an hour away.

[dazmond]

Indeed time will tell.

I am confident this will work. If it does every wfp user will be able to afford hot water without spending the best part of £5k!

My product will require no installation or the need to DIY anything. Be as easy as fitting a univalve to a pole.

Nothing like this on the market for our industry right now and I am confident that if it works as well as I hope no more diesel heaters will be sold from that point.

WILL it have automatic frost protection and be able to heat the water to 60c at the brush head?as this is where the real cleaning power is for first cleans and add on jobs.....

Or will it be more of a general warm water system for winter working(like an immersion heater for example)....

[Pete Thompson]

The hot water system sounds as if you're trying to find a way of redirecting the exhaust gasses from the vehicle to pass through a heat diffusing panel then back out of the vehicle.

Lee said:

Will require no installation

For what we need there are only  three ways to heat water, immersion, gas or diesel

Just as a side point, I use hot water, and I don't use gas, diesel or an immersion heater either.  So I must also be occupying a parallel universe.

[Lee Pryor]

Indeed time will tell.

I am confident this will work. If it does every wfp user will be able to afford hot water without spending the best part of £5k!

My product will require no installation or the need to DIY anything. Be as easy as fitting a univalve to a pole.

Nothing like this on the market for our industry right now and I am confident that if it works as well as I hope no more diesel heaters will be sold from that point.

WILL it have automatic frost protection and be able to heat the water to 60c at the brush head?as this is where the real cleaning power is for first cleans and add on jobs.....

Or will it be more of a general warm water system for winter working(like an immersion heater for example)....

Yes, I have a lot of experience working with hot water. This is the goal we are working towards. First version prototype will be tested this week. I expect this will need to be refined of a period of time.

[Lee Pryor]

Good thread Lee

The hot water system sounds as if you're trying to find a way of redirecting the exhaust gasses from the vehicle to pass through a heat diffusing panel then back out of the vehicle.

Will wait and see if i am right

Also, i find that a lot of staff expect to be picked up from home at starting time and expect to be dropped off at finish time.
Are your guys expected to find their own way to work, do they arrive just on the dot of 7 o'clock or do they arrive early to set their stall out so to say. And does paid work start at 7 at the yard or when they arrive at first job, which may be an hour away.

They get themselves to work and take themselves home.

[Shrek]

Also, i find that a lot of staff expect to be picked up from home at starting time and expect to be dropped off at finish time.
Are your guys expected to find their own way to work, do they arrive just on the dot of 7 o'clock or do they arrive early to set their stall out so to say. And does paid work start at 7 at the yard or when they arrive at first job, which may be an hour away.

A bit weird...... how many employers pick their staff up and drop them home 🤔
I don’t know anyone that applies for a job and then expects to be picked up and dropped off 

[Smudger]

my first employee did, well during all the school holidays when the bus service meant he would either arrive 45 minutes early or 30 minutes late

shall we say he was soon an ex employee

Darran

[Arnold Palmer]

my first employee did, well during all the school holidays when the bus service meant he would either arrive 45 minutes early or 30 minutes late

shall we say he was soon an ex employee

Darran

Some of my staff arrive an hour early for work. No idea why. Must be my scintillating company.

[Smudger]

sorry, if not clear - he didn't want to arrive early on the bus so expected to to go and collect him  ( buses run at different times during term time )

all the lads who work for me now get in anywhere between an hour to 30 mins early, they chat, talk footie and drink coffee - my requirement is they are in 10 mins before their start time to check/load van and be on the road at the correct start time
 they are paid from this point - even if the work is 3 hours away paid time stops 15 mins after return to unit - time to unload/clean van etc..

Darran

[chris turner]

The hot water system sounds as if you're trying to find a way of redirecting the exhaust gasses from the vehicle to pass through a heat diffusing panel then back out of the vehicle.

Lee said:

Will require no installation

For what we need there are only  three ways to heat water, immersion, gas or diesel

Just as a side point, I use hot water, and I don't use gas, diesel or an immersion heater either.  So I must also be occupying a parallel universe.

Hot water straight through di into tank???

[Dry Clean]

The hot water system sounds as if you're trying to find a way of redirecting the exhaust gasses from the vehicle to pass through a heat diffusing panel then back out of the vehicle.

Lee said:

Will require no installation

For what we need there are only  three ways to heat water, immersion, gas or diesel

Just as a side point, I use hot water, and I don't use gas, diesel or an immersion heater either.  So I must also be occupying a parallel universe.

Hot water straight through di into tank???

Agreed, and heated by gas oil or electricity , where do these people come from.

[Dry Clean]

Here's his first post on the subject, no running costs, electric on demand, now come on guys lets get a bit of common sense.


490
Window Cleaning Issues / New method for hot water
« on: November 14, 2017, 09:59:48 am »
For a while now I've wanted to come up with a product for the industry.

I am currently working on a new hot water product with all of the upsides of gas and diesel but none of the downsides of either.  (Both have plenty)

This will be an electric on demand heater with no running costs, hotter and faster to heat than diesel, digital temp control, no 20 min timer like gas, frost protection built in and the ability to use hot all day everyday with no running costs and no servicing required.

No it's not an immersion heater. This will be on demand and piping hot, like gas.

I hope to trial this system on my vans by next spring/summer. Just working on the design now. I also hope to deliver this product for considerably less cost than diesel options.