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Jonny 87

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New Gardiner flow valve. (Univalve beater?)
« on: January 23, 2019, 05:38:45 pm »
https://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/all-products/whats-new/gooseneck-valve.html


Might have completely missed this one, so apologies if this has already been discussed, but has anyone tried this out?

I like it in principle. I enjoyed the aqua tap when that was around.

Can’t help myself so I might order one.
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High-Tower

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Re: New Gardiner flow valve. (Univalve beater?)
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2019, 05:40:30 pm »
Be useless with a swivel. I’m out...

Jonny 87

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Re: New Gardiner flow valve. (Univalve beater?)
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2019, 05:44:25 pm »
Downside for me is that I do prefer a carbon gooseneck.  ???

Might be worth the exchange though.
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dazmond

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Re: New Gardiner flow valve. (Univalve beater?)
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2019, 06:00:17 pm »
i actually liked the old prototype i was sent by alex a few years ago but it started leaking after a day.hopefully they ve ironed out the teething problems.....i would buy one but im still on my first univalve from a few years ago...still works perfectly well plus i bought two so i have a spare..... :)
price higher/work harder!

P @ F

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Re: New Gardiner flow valve. (Univalve beater?)
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2019, 06:12:57 pm »
I might have to give one a go , was tuggin a the univalve like a madman today , mind you that was with original Gardiner green at 30 foot and water at 52 at the brush head  ;D ;D ;D
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

p1w1

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Re: New Gardiner flow valve. (Univalve beater?)
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2019, 06:15:11 pm »
I might have to give one a go , was tuggin a the univalve like a madman today , mind you that was with original Gardiner green at 30 foot and water at 52 at the brush head  ;D ;D ;D
how did you manage to get a temp reading at 30ft  ???  ;D

P @ F

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Re: New Gardiner flow valve. (Univalve beater?)
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2019, 06:29:14 pm »
I might have to give one a go , was tuggin a the univalve like a madman today , mind you that was with original Gardiner green at 30 foot and water at 52 at the brush head  ;D ;D ;D
how did you manage to get a temp reading at 30ft  ???  ;D
I got a TDS meter on me Tadger  ;D ;D
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

Alex Gardiner

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Re: New Gardiner flow valve. (Univalve beater?)
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2019, 06:56:58 pm »
i actually liked the old prototype i was sent by alex a few years ago but it started leaking after a day.hopefully they ve ironed out the teething problems.....i would buy one but im still on my first univalve from a few years ago...still works perfectly well plus i bought two so i have a spare..... :)

Hi Dazmond

The prototypes that you tested were back in 2015/16 and were of the very first version we used to sell. Those early V1 prototypes did leak very quickly as they were 3D printed and not really tough enough for a days work.

These new Gooseneck Valves are of a completely different construction and valve mechanism - they have been redesigned from the ground up and have been in testing now for about 12 months. We are pleased that they are a  'world apart' from the previous items.

windowswashed

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Re: New Gardiner flow valve. (Univalve beater?)
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2019, 07:02:27 pm »
Looks a good idea and I tried the old version that streamline brought out before Gardiners first version, similar principal. As I love my swivel goosenecks I couldn't get on with it as I kept switching it on and off when I wasn't trying to. It's a good idea in theory if you use a fixed brush head but terrible if you are using a swivel gooseneck.

nathankaye

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Re: New Gardiner flow valve. (Univalve beater?)
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2019, 07:29:14 pm »
I had one about a yr back, sounds the same where you simply twist the pole to turn flow on or off.
Mine must have been mark1 as it didnt seem to last overly long. 
However it may have been my fault. It used slug screws (if thats what their called?) to tighten it. As i sometimes work with the brush vertical it kept switch itself off and so i was forever tightening it up and then i think i must have over tightened (which was easy to do) as it simply busted it and that was that.
However the concept of it and when it worked, i did enjoy its use.
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P @ F

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Re: New Gardiner flow valve. (Univalve beater?)
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2019, 07:43:43 pm »
I think you wanted the word GRUB Nath , rather fitting I think  ;D ;D ;D
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

P @ F

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Re: New Gardiner flow valve. (Univalve beater?)
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2019, 07:46:27 pm »
You didnt eat them did you  ;D
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

Stoots

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Re: New Gardiner flow valve. (Univalve beater?)
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2019, 08:02:40 pm »
Looks a similar principle to the aqua tap which I though was a bag of poope. So I'll probably stick to the univalve.

Now if it was pull on pull off I would be interested....

windowswashed

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Re: New Gardiner flow valve. (Univalve beater?)
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2019, 08:08:13 pm »
I would be interested too if it was pull on/off , but definitely not a swivel on/off

nathankaye

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Re: New Gardiner flow valve. (Univalve beater?)
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2019, 08:08:41 pm »
Looks a similar principle to the aqua tap which I though was a bag of poope. So I'll probably stick to the univalve.

Now if it was pull on pull off I would be interested....

The downside to the univalve and admittedly i dont use it as much as my tap valve. But i have used it alot.
The downside of the univalve is grabbing hold of the hose whilst holding the pole, pending the length of the pole at the time.
Whereas this gooseneck is simple to use at whatever height as you simply turn/twist the pole.
It will also be ideal for newbies or trainees ao they can concentrate on the job at hand rather than worrying about turning the water on or off.
(Just my thoughts)
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p1w1

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Re: New Gardiner flow valve. (Univalve beater?)
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2019, 08:11:26 pm »
Looks a similar principle to the aqua tap which I though was a bag of poope. So I'll probably stick to the univalve.

Now if it was pull on pull off I would be interested....

The downside to the univalve and admittedly i dont use it as much as my tap valve. But i have used it alot.
The downside of the univalve is grabbing hold of the hose whilst holding the pole, pending the length of the pole at the time.
Whereas this gooseneck is simple to use at whatever height as you simply turn/twist the pole.
It will also be ideal for newbies or trainees ao they can concentrate on the job at hand rather than worrying about turning the water on or off.
(Just my thoughts)
why? do you hold the pole while cleaning with the base of it on the ground.

tlwcs

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Re: New Gardiner flow valve. (Univalve beater?)
« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2019, 08:15:28 pm »
i actually liked the old prototype i was sent by alex a few years ago but it started leaking after a day.hopefully they ve ironed out the teething problems.....i would buy one but im still on my first univalve from a few years ago...still works perfectly well plus i bought two so i have a spare..... :)

Hi Dazmond

The prototypes that you tested were back in 2015/16 and were of the very first version we used to sell. Those early V1 prototypes did leak very quickly as they were 3D printed and not really tough enough for a days work.

These new Gooseneck Valves are of a completely different construction and valve mechanism - they have been redesigned from the ground up and have been in testing now for about 12 months. We are pleased that they are a  'world apart' from the previous items.

Think I bought 2 of them, any chance of a refund 😁

P @ F

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Re: New Gardiner flow valve. (Univalve beater?)
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2019, 08:22:47 pm »
I think that you will find that Steve Exceed's patent is based on the pull on/off action , so if true ,nothing else can use this method  :-\
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

nathankaye

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Re: New Gardiner flow valve. (Univalve beater?)
« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2019, 08:25:00 pm »
Looks a similar principle to the aqua tap which I though was a bag of poope. So I'll probably stick to the univalve.

Now if it was pull on pull off I would be interested....

The downside to the univalve and admittedly i dont use it as much as my tap valve. But i have used it alot.
The downside of the univalve is grabbing hold of the hose whilst holding the pole, pending the length of the pole at the time.
Whereas this gooseneck is simple to use at whatever height as you simply turn/twist the pole.
It will also be ideal for newbies or trainees ao they can concentrate on the job at hand rather than worrying about turning the water on or off.
(Just my thoughts)
why? do you hold the pole while cleaning with the base of it on the ground.

😂😂
Not at all but i certainly dont hold the pole at the very base. Not on the lower windows and certainly not for the higher windows. If you are, then perhaps an extension on your pole is needed or a new pole
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p1w1

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Re: New Gardiner flow valve. (Univalve beater?)
« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2019, 09:11:01 pm »
Looks a similar principle to the aqua tap which I though was a bag of poope. So I'll probably stick to the univalve.

Now if it was pull on pull off I would be interested....

The downside to the univalve and admittedly i dont use it as much as my tap valve. But i have used it alot.
The downside of the univalve is grabbing hold of the hose whilst holding the pole, pending the length of the pole at the time.
Whereas this gooseneck is simple to use at whatever height as you simply turn/twist the pole.
It will also be ideal for newbies or trainees ao they can concentrate on the job at hand rather than worrying about turning the water on or off.
(Just my thoughts)
why? do you hold the pole while cleaning with the base of it on the ground.

😂😂
Not at all but i certainly dont hold the pole at the very base. Not on the lower windows and certainly not for the higher windows. If you are, then perhaps an extension on your pole is needed or a new pole
why do i need an extension if i hold the pole near the base? Anyway its not an issues turning it on or off so not a downside (unless you still use a brodex pole)...no different really then letting go of the pole with 1 hand to turn a tap off.  I'll do a video for you one day when i retire on how easy it is  ;D