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P @ F

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Re: Think il give it a miss this morning
« Reply #40 on: January 23, 2019, 11:10:59 pm »
Dont mock him boys , my water is that HOT HOT HOT it dries before it hits the deck  ;D
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

P @ F

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Re: Think il give it a miss this morning
« Reply #41 on: January 23, 2019, 11:13:28 pm »
No-one has mentioned the Mpemba effect for a while ❄️.
I dont think I have had the pleasure , please do enlighten me Mr Griffin  ;D
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

nathankaye

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Re: Think il give it a miss this morning
« Reply #42 on: January 23, 2019, 11:42:25 pm »
Dont mock him boys , my water is that HOT HOT HOT it dries before it hits the deck  ;D

Well didnt want to boast but its that hot im actually cleaning with steam instead
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Re: Think il give it a miss this morning
« Reply #43 on: January 24, 2019, 12:39:56 am »
 ;D😆🤣🤣🤣
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

Walter Mitty

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Re: Think il give it a miss this morning
« Reply #44 on: January 24, 2019, 06:20:28 am »
Funnily enough, I had my highest earning day yesterday for several weeks, and there was a marginally delayed start.   My hands suffered badly about twenty minutes in, but once I got through the pain barrier I coped pretty well.  I ended up on the glass from about 9.45 until 4 (apart from a short rest around 1.30), and it was still light enough at 4. If I had a small, straightforward house to do nearby, I would have done that too.
I did lose most of a day to frozen pipes on another day though, and it may well be like that this morning.  It was minus 2 around 9 pm last night so I brought the reel and a few bits in, plus I disconnected the pipes to and from the pump.  I have a system where I push fit a piece of tubing into the JG fitting between tank and pump to stop the tank draining and I ensure the other end of it is raised to prevent syphoning.  The connectors can still freeze but at least the pump is protected from water expansion as it freezes.
N.B. I have no access to heat the van due to living in a flat.

John Mart

Re: Think il give it a miss this morning
« Reply #45 on: January 24, 2019, 08:28:03 am »
IMO, what's more important in sub-zero temperatures is not whether you are able to work but consideration for any slip hazard you are going to cause!! If you haven't got the sense to acknowledge this then you shouldn't be out splashing water all over the place!
In general, skip doors or cloth them, then there's no issue.


Absolutely!  With common sense you aint gonna course no slip hazards.

And the path all way round the house?
Why would you get water on the path other than the odd spot? Unless you're using a pressure washer.

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Re: Think il give it a miss this morning
« Reply #46 on: January 24, 2019, 08:36:36 am »
IMO, what's more important in sub-zero temperatures is not whether you are able to work but consideration for any slip hazard you are going to cause!! If you haven't got the sense to acknowledge this then you shouldn't be out splashing water all over the place!
In general, skip doors or cloth them, then there's no issue.


Absolutely!  With common sense you aint gonna course no slip hazards.

And the path all way round the house?
Why would you get water on the path other than the odd spot? Unless you're using a pressure washer.

Does your water go uphill too? ::)roll
Comfortably Numb!

Dave Willis

Re: Think il give it a miss this morning
« Reply #47 on: January 24, 2019, 08:44:22 am »
The fact that jellyfish have survived for over 5 million years despite having no brains gives hope to many window cleaners.

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Re: Think il give it a miss this morning
« Reply #48 on: January 24, 2019, 08:47:39 am »
Bit warmer here today  only -5 at the mo'!!
Seen Bristol live on BBC news earlier this morning with no frost at all.
Comfortably Numb!

cleaniac

Re: Think il give it a miss this morning
« Reply #49 on: January 24, 2019, 09:49:04 am »
-5 here in woking this morning. By the weekend its due to get back up to 9 degrees..

nathankaye

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Re: Think il give it a miss this morning
« Reply #50 on: January 24, 2019, 10:02:14 am »
Youll be pleased to know that no I havent done a video 😂😂 or taken pictures.
But this morning im working in quite a nice area but its out in the sticks and black ice mostly everywhere. So i thought inwould just pay attention to what im actually doing and seeing rather than working on auto pilot as it were.
To see if im leaving any slip risk to customers as some have suggested.

So top windows, where the plastic sill over hangs the building. Yes the water falls off (no suprise), however where does it land and does it cause significant spillage to worry about causing more ice and become a risk for customers?
No!  All i can do is speak from my experience. But after each window is cleaned i turn the water off and then wipe the sills. This limits the water spillage considerably and by wiping it with the brush it disperses it over a period of space as it laurches onto the ground or across the brick work of the house.
So far on the downstairs windows and conservatories ive cleaned this morning, again the same type of method. However the water falls straight down. For me, my custosmers have pots under the windows, some have little borders of bedding plants and others have slabs or concrete or whatever. So once ive finished and packed up ive walked back aroumd the houses to see if im mistaken and there is infact puddles and streaks across the paths where foot traffic would be and it has infact become an issue.     But No,  again this is not my experience. Walls under the sills are wet and there may be very small pools of water very close to the property, as in inches away from the house. Certainly not anywhere were foot traffic would be unless your a peeping tom stood right by the window.
Ok, ive only cleaned 7 houses so far today so maybe later i might be proved wrong. But my experience is that im certainly not flooding each window to cause flooding on walkways or paths around the property for it to freeze or be a problem to the customers.

I would do a vid to show n back up or take some b4 n after photos to show, but the ground is wet and on the photo i took you couldnt see clearly the difference between what ive wet and the ground being wet. Obviously you could in person, but the camera doesnt.
So perhaps its a vid for my channel in summer and that way you can see what part of the ground gets wet and by how much.
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John Mart

Re: Think il give it a miss this morning
« Reply #51 on: January 24, 2019, 10:11:56 am »
Unless customers walk on their walls, there's no risk of a slip risk other than doors. Some people are afraid of their customers. It's a window cleaning thing.

nathankaye

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Re: Think il give it a miss this morning
« Reply #52 on: January 24, 2019, 10:14:46 am »
IMO, what's more important in sub-zero temperatures is not whether you are able to work but consideration for any slip hazard you are going to cause!! If you haven't got the sense to acknowledge this then you shouldn't be out splashing water all over the place!
In general, skip doors or cloth them, then there's no issue.


Absolutely!  With common sense you aint gonna course no slip hazards.

And the path all way round the house?
Why would you get water on the path other than the odd spot? Unless you're using a pressure washer.

Does your water go uphill too? ::)roll

Suprisingly yes, it goes 30 ft high via a  rhino hose and a slx carbon pole powered by a 5ltr per min pump if u must know
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nathankaye

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Re: Think il give it a miss this morning
« Reply #53 on: January 24, 2019, 10:18:18 am »
Unless customers walk on their walls, there's no risk of a slip risk other than doors. Some people are afraid of their customers. It's a window cleaning thing.

Some customers are scared of window cleaners in some areas. They might get dragged out the house by their hair if they ask them to come back later for money
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Re: Think il give it a miss this morning
« Reply #54 on: January 24, 2019, 10:23:28 am »
I just start a bit later / finish a bit earlier. I used to sack it off but now even if its only 3 jobs I'd sooner chip away at my to do list. I'm cold water in a pick up but if need be stick the back pack in the cab with the 25 and use that until things warm up. My bigger problem just now is getting the truck started first thing ! ( new glow plugs on order for the weekend ) Took 15 mins this morning !  :'(

a900

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Re: Think il give it a miss this morning
« Reply #55 on: January 24, 2019, 10:27:19 am »
-8  for me this morning!!

thats a day off for me at those temperatures!even a hot water system would be no use! ::)roll

Worked last year in the snow in minus 8 with hot water. 2 of us working with only the one set up to keep the flow going. Because the snow was down already didn’t have to worry about making paths slippy.

Had a laugh getting stuck in the snow in van a couple of times. Got out with a shovel and passers by pushing us

Dave Willis

Re: Think il give it a miss this morning
« Reply #56 on: January 24, 2019, 12:16:22 pm »
Youll be pleased to know that no I havent done a video 😂😂 or taken pictures.
But this morning im working in quite a nice area but its out in the sticks and black ice mostly everywhere. So i thought inwould just pay attention to what im actually doing and seeing rather than working on auto pilot as it were.
To see if im leaving any slip risk to customers as some have suggested.

So top windows, where the plastic sill over hangs the building. Yes the water falls off (no suprise), however where does it land and does it cause significant spillage to worry about causing more ice and become a risk for customers?
No!  All i can do is speak from my experience. But after each window is cleaned i turn the water off and then wipe the sills. This limits the water spillage considerably and by wiping it with the brush it disperses it over a period of space as it laurches onto the ground or across the brick work of the house.
So far on the downstairs windows and conservatories ive cleaned this morning, again the same type of method. However the water falls straight down. For me, my custosmers have pots under the windows, some have little borders of bedding plants and others have slabs or concrete or whatever. So once ive finished and packed up ive walked back aroumd the houses to see if im mistaken and there is infact puddles and streaks across the paths where foot traffic would be and it has infact become an issue.     But No,  again this is not my experience. Walls under the sills are wet and there may be very small pools of water very close to the property, as in inches away from the house. Certainly not anywhere were foot traffic would be unless your a peeping tom stood right by the window.
Ok, ive only cleaned 7 houses so far today so maybe later i might be proved wrong. But my experience is that im certainly not flooding each window to cause flooding on walkways or paths around the property for it to freeze or be a problem to the customers.

I would do a vid to show n back up or take some b4 n after photos to show, but the ground is wet and on the photo i took you couldnt see clearly the difference between what ive wet and the ground being wet. Obviously you could in person, but the camera doesnt.
So perhaps its a vid for my channel in summer and that way you can see what part of the ground gets wet and by how much.
.                                                                                       Jesus Wept!  Is there a book coming out?

Johnny B

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Re: Think il give it a miss this morning
« Reply #57 on: January 24, 2019, 12:27:33 pm »
Youll be pleased to know that no I havent done a video 😂😂 or taken pictures.
But this morning im working in quite a nice area but its out in the sticks and black ice mostly everywhere. So i thought inwould just pay attention to what im actually doing and seeing rather than working on auto pilot as it were.
To see if im leaving any slip risk to customers as some have suggested.

So top windows, where the plastic sill over hangs the building. Yes the water falls off (no suprise), however where does it land and does it cause significant spillage to worry about causing more ice and become a risk for customers?
No!  All i can do is speak from my experience. But after each window is cleaned i turn the water off and then wipe the sills. This limits the water spillage considerably and by wiping it with the brush it disperses it over a period of space as it laurches onto the ground or across the brick work of the house.
So far on the downstairs windows and conservatories ive cleaned this morning, again the same type of method. However the water falls straight down. For me, my custosmers have pots under the windows, some have little borders of bedding plants and others have slabs or concrete or whatever. So once ive finished and packed up ive walked back aroumd the houses to see if im mistaken and there is infact puddles and streaks across the paths where foot traffic would be and it has infact become an issue.     But No,  again this is not my experience. Walls under the sills are wet and there may be very small pools of water very close to the property, as in inches away from the house. Certainly not anywhere were foot traffic would be unless your a peeping tom stood right by the window.
Ok, ive only cleaned 7 houses so far today so maybe later i might be proved wrong. But my experience is that im certainly not flooding each window to cause flooding on walkways or paths around the property for it to freeze or be a problem to the customers.

I would do a vid to show n back up or take some b4 n after photos to show, but the ground is wet and on the photo i took you couldnt see clearly the difference between what ive wet and the ground being wet. Obviously you could in person, but the camera doesnt.
So perhaps its a vid for my channel in summer and that way you can see what part of the ground gets wet and by how much.
.                                                                                       Jesus Wept!  Is there a book coming out?

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Re: Think il give it a miss this morning
« Reply #58 on: January 24, 2019, 12:41:37 pm »
Youll be pleased to know that no I havent done a video 😂😂 or taken pictures.
But this morning im working in quite a nice area but its out in the sticks and black ice mostly everywhere. So i thought inwould just pay attention to what im actually doing and seeing rather than working on auto pilot as it were.
To see if im leaving any slip risk to customers as some have suggested.

So top windows, where the plastic sill over hangs the building. Yes the water falls off (no suprise), however where does it land and does it cause significant spillage to worry about causing more ice and become a risk for customers?
No!  All i can do is speak from my experience. But after each window is cleaned i turn the water off and then wipe the sills. This limits the water spillage considerably and by wiping it with the brush it disperses it over a period of space as it laurches onto the ground or across the brick work of the house.
So far on the downstairs windows and conservatories ive cleaned this morning, again the same type of method. However the water falls straight down. For me, my custosmers have pots under the windows, some have little borders of bedding plants and others have slabs or concrete or whatever. So once ive finished and packed up ive walked back aroumd the houses to see if im mistaken and there is infact puddles and streaks across the paths where foot traffic would be and it has infact become an issue.     But No,  again this is not my experience. Walls under the sills are wet and there may be very small pools of water very close to the property, as in inches away from the house. Certainly not anywhere were foot traffic would be unless your a peeping tom stood right by the window.
Ok, ive only cleaned 7 houses so far today so maybe later i might be proved wrong. But my experience is that im certainly not flooding each window to cause flooding on walkways or paths around the property for it to freeze or be a problem to the customers.

I would do a vid to show n back up or take some b4 n after photos to show, but the ground is wet and on the photo i took you couldnt see clearly the difference between what ive wet and the ground being wet. Obviously you could in person, but the camera doesnt.
So perhaps its a vid for my channel in summer and that way you can see what part of the ground gets wet and by how much.
.                                                                                       Jesus Wept!  Is there a book coming out?

Yep, it's called "how to justify desperation"
 ;D ;D ;D
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nathankaye

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Re: Think il give it a miss this morning
« Reply #59 on: January 24, 2019, 12:42:24 pm »
Youll be pleased to know that no I havent done a video 😂😂 or taken pictures.
But this morning im working in quite a nice area but its out in the sticks and black ice mostly everywhere. So i thought inwould just pay attention to what im actually doing and seeing rather than working on auto pilot as it were.
To see if im leaving any slip risk to customers as some have suggested.

So top windows, where the plastic sill over hangs the building. Yes the water falls off (no suprise), however where does it land and does it cause significant spillage to worry about causing more ice and become a risk for customers?
No!  All i can do is speak from my experience. But after each window is cleaned i turn the water off and then wipe the sills. This limits the water spillage considerably and by wiping it with the brush it disperses it over a period of space as it laurches onto the ground or across the brick work of the house.
So far on the downstairs windows and conservatories ive cleaned this morning, again the same type of method. However the water falls straight down. For me, my custosmers have pots under the windows, some have little borders of bedding plants and others have slabs or concrete or whatever. So once ive finished and packed up ive walked back aroumd the houses to see if im mistaken and there is infact puddles and streaks across the paths where foot traffic would be and it has infact become an issue.     But No,  again this is not my experience. Walls under the sills are wet and there may be very small pools of water very close to the property, as in inches away from the house. Certainly not anywhere were foot traffic would be unless your a peeping tom stood right by the window.
Ok, ive only cleaned 7 houses so far today so maybe later i might be proved wrong. But my experience is that im certainly not flooding each window to cause flooding on walkways or paths around the property for it to freeze or be a problem to the customers.

I would do a vid to show n back up or take some b4 n after photos to show, but the ground is wet and on the photo i took you couldnt see clearly the difference between what ive wet and the ground being wet. Obviously you could in person, but the camera doesnt.
So perhaps its a vid for my channel in summer and that way you can see what part of the ground gets wet and by how much.
.                                                                                       Jesus Wept!  Is there a book coming out?

It goes to show its not true!  Window cleaners can read with it requiring pictures
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