[dazmond]

and enforcement for not turning your engine off while stuck in traffic?

what about keeping my batteries charging for my diesel heater......and my heated driver seat.....

thoughts chaps.......

[dazmond]

if anyone tapped on my window to tell me to turn my engine off(esp in the cold winter months) would get the middle finger!

[The Jester of Wibbly]

Challange it.   Frost protection and equipment charging is the same as keeping a fridge cold on a food truck who woukd need to keep engine on.  Same with a cement mixer or ice creem van.

[dazmond]

some little hitler is bound to try and tell an ambulance driver to turn his engine off too!

[Don Kee]

When you say “traffic”, what do you mean?

Sat on a ring road, or traffic lights should be fine; sat on the side of the road massaging your ball sack whilst drinking a protein shake is ‘parked’ and technically you’d be bang to rights.
Never really heard of it being enforced though...

[dazmond]

i always leave my engine running at lunchtime too....in winter to keep warm and in summer to keep cool as well as putting a bit more juice into my 2 leisure batteries at the same time........i also leave my diesel heater on in the colder months.......

environmental disaster zone..........

[jonboywalton75]

i always leave my engine running at lunchtime too....in winter to keep warm and in summer to keep cool as well as putting a bit more juice into my 2 leisure batteries at the same time........i also leave my diesel heater on in the colder months.......

environmental disaster zone..........

Woah Daz
I'm agreeing with you again

[Cookie]

i always leave my engine running at lunchtime too....in winter to keep warm and in summer to keep cool as well as putting a bit more juice into my 2 leisure batteries at the same time........i also leave my diesel heater on in the colder months.......

Sounds like you're becoming a bit of a softie Daz 

[John Mart]

When you say “traffic”, what do you mean?

Sat on a ring road, or traffic lights should be fine; sat on the side of the road massaging your ball sack whilst drinking a protein shake is ‘parked’ and technically you’d be bang to rights.
Never really heard of it being enforced though...

The word used is idling “unnecessarily”. To keep warm/cool or to get a charge into a leisure battery would arguably be “necessary.”

[Don Kee]

When you say “traffic”, what do you mean?

Sat on a ring road, or traffic lights should be fine; sat on the side of the road massaging your ball sack whilst drinking a protein shake is ‘parked’ and technically you’d be bang to rights.
Never really heard of it being enforced though...

The word used is idling “unnecessarily”. To keep warm/cool or to get a charge into a leisure battery would arguably be “necessary.”

You realise I’m not the person that gave Daz the ticket, right?

[John Mart]

When you say “traffic”, what do you mean?

Sat on a ring road, or traffic lights should be fine; sat on the side of the road massaging your ball sack whilst drinking a protein shake is ‘parked’ and technically you’d be bang to rights.
Never really heard of it being enforced though...

The word used is idling “unnecessarily”. To keep warm/cool or to get a charge into a leisure battery would arguably be “necessary.”

You realise I’m not the person that gave Daz the ticket, right?

You’re the one that said “bang to rights”. 

[Elfyn]

My van automatically turns the engine off when stoped in traffic. It re-starts when I push the clutch in to go into gear.

[Stoots]

I would contest it on the grounds that it was needed for business, i.e charginf battery and hot water.

I would be very surprised if they didnt make exceptions for that.

I read somewhere that a refridgerated van would not get done for idling, seems like the same thing.

[dazmond]

My van automatically turns the engine off when stoped in traffic. It re-starts when I push the clutch in to go into gear.

so does mine but ive turned it off.....

[dazmond]

manchester are thinking of imposing tariffs for diesel vehicle drivers,not just in manchester city centre  either,all AROUND THE REGION.......including ALL commercial vehicles.....

the thing is if there was a practical cleaner alternative (as in affordable electric vans)we would all be buying them but their isnt at the moment....so i think its very unfair......

it wasnt that long ago when the motor industry were promoting diesel vehicles as the best vehicles to lease/purchase......

[AuRavelling79]

Regarding the £20 Fixed Penalty ...

"But this is only imposed if the driver fails to turn off their engine when asked to do so ... "

Exemptions are when defrosting a windscreen and on private land. If it's cold/hot and you need to charge your batteries sit in a supermarket car park.

[John Mart]

Regarding the £20 Fixed Penalty ...

"But this is only imposed if the driver fails to turn off their engine when asked to do so ... "

Exemptions are when defrosting a windscreen and on private land. If it's cold/hot and you need to charge your batteries sit in a supermarket car park.

My quote was from the Highway Code. Where’s yours from?

[deeege]

manchester are thinking of imposing tariffs for diesel vehicle drivers,not just in manchester city centre  either,all AROUND THE REGION.......including ALL commercial vehicles.....

It’s a good job you work in leafy affluent Cheshire then Daz, and not in industrial Salford. 😂

[John Mart]

"You MUST NOT leave a parked vehicle unattended with the engine running or leave a vehicle engine running unnecessarily while that vehicle is stationary on a public road. Generally, if the vehicle is stationary and is likely to remain so for more than a couple of minutes, you should apply the parking brake and switch off the engine to reduce emissions and noise pollution. However it is permissible to leave the engine running if the vehicle is stationary in traffic or for diagnosing faults."

So I think that if you receive a ticket, you could appeal if it was very hot or very cold or in order to charge a battery for work. But it may be different if there's a separate by-law.

[G Griffin]

What about your lights when stuck in traffic?