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Micro bore or mini bore
« on: December 03, 2018, 04:59:44 pm »
For those that use Hot water, which hose do you use

Minibore or microbore?

Do you you use the hose especially rated for hot water and who do you purchase from?

Thanks

Tony


dazmond

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Re: Micro bore or mini bore
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2018, 05:11:48 pm »
ALWAYS microbore never minibore whether hot or cold.....i use the red 6mm pure freedom hose which is ok as grippatank and gardiners hadnt got the 6mm thermobore in stock when i had my heater fitted at the end of last year......
price higher/work harder!

nathankaye

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Re: Micro bore or mini bore
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2018, 05:25:15 pm »
I use pure freedom

https://purefreedom.co.uk/product/100m-x-8mm-hi-vis-hose-green/

With a red rhino pole hose
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jonny thompson

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Re: Micro bore or mini bore
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2018, 05:38:26 pm »
I use Gardner's normal micro bore, the yellow cheap one, and have done for the past 6 years

SB Cleaning

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Re: Micro bore or mini bore
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2018, 05:42:06 pm »
I  have used minibore for the last 9 years ...never used microbore so can't comment but the mini bore is very robust had the one hose from day1 ...9 years old  now :)

zesty

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Re: Micro bore or mini bore
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2018, 05:54:04 pm »
Minibore.

Better flow rate, less stress on pump and battery.

Lasts ages as well.

dazmond

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Re: Micro bore or mini bore
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2018, 05:59:15 pm »
I  have used minibore for the last 9 years ...never used microbore so can't comment but the mini bore is very robust had the one hose from day1 ...9 years old  now :)

i guarantee youll NEVER go back to minibore once you ve used microbore....your just making your working day harder than it needs to be.......
price higher/work harder!

zesty

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Re: Micro bore or mini bore
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2018, 06:01:55 pm »
Daz, microbore is definitely lighter and easier to handle, but minibore paired with an electric reel is my choice for the reasons stated above.

It’s really just personal preference because they both work well.

Splash & dash

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Re: Micro bore or mini bore
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2018, 06:38:51 pm »
Micro bore mini boar is horrible stuff to drag round , once you get used to microbore you will wonder why you ever used the other

Smudger

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Re: Micro bore or mini bore
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2018, 06:41:27 pm »
I vote microbore - lighter - less snagging - all round easier to use

as Daz said you won't go back to mini after using micro

Darran
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windowswashed

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Re: Micro bore or mini bore
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2018, 07:07:39 pm »
I have the best of both worlds. Microbore hose but I use 8mm internal flexible lightweight pole hose so more flow without dragging the extra weight of minibore hose along the ground. Allows me to turn the flow down saving on my battery juice and still keep a higher flow than using microbore hose with 6mm internal pose hose. Always use John guest non return valve at base of pole so no waiting for water to go up the pole  ;D

Jonny 87

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Re: Micro bore or mini bore
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2018, 07:15:35 pm »
All this talk of more wear on a pump
And battery because of 2 mill difference.  ???

My last system (pump and battery) lasted 6 years with microbore before I sold it on.

I really don’t think it alters the life time of pumps and battery. If it does, it’s tiny.
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Spruce

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Re: Micro bore or mini bore
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2018, 09:13:04 pm »
All this talk of more wear on a pump
And battery because of 2 mill difference.  ???

My last system (pump and battery) lasted 6 years with microbore before I sold it on.

I really don’t think it alters the life time of pumps and battery. If it does, it’s tiny.

It must mean something. In the early days Williamson pumps would only offer warranty on Shurflo pumps if they had been used with 1/2" hose.

I opted for minibore as it was closer to standard 1/2" hose than microbore was. I decided that I would 'carry' my own warranty on using a Shurflo pump with minbore, a decision I never regretted as it was so much easier to manage than 1/2" hose, especially in winter with cold water.

Microbore is just over half the internal area (volume) of minibore, so 2mm diamt makes a big difference.   
(minibore = 50.27mm2.
Microbore = 28.27mm2.
1/2" hose = 530.93mm2 - 5.5 times the internal area of minibore.)

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SB Cleaning

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Re: Micro bore or mini bore
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2018, 09:19:12 pm »
I  have used minibore for the last 9 years ...never used microbore so can't comment but the mini bore is very robust had the one hose from day1 ...9 years old  now :)

i guarantee youll NEVER go back to minibore once you ve used microbore....your just making your working day harder than it needs to be.......
I really don't see why it's making my day harder by using mini bore  ???  ;D

zesty

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Re: Micro bore or mini bore
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2018, 09:23:31 pm »
All this talk of more wear on a pump
And battery because of 2 mill difference.  ???

My last system (pump and battery) lasted 6 years with microbore before I sold it on.

I really don’t think it alters the life time of pumps and battery. If it does, it’s tiny.

Jonny,

It does make a difference in flow rate for me.

But let’s be honest - who cares! They both work.

My preference is just a wider bore for more flow and I find my battery seems to fair better with the larger bore.

Spruce as always has the details!

But again, it really doesn’t matter. If this is all us windys have got to worry about, we must be bored  ;D

AuRavelling79

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Re: Micro bore or mini bore
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2018, 09:48:06 pm »
" If this is all us windys have got to worry about, we must be bored  ;D"

Mini bored or micro bored?  :D


It's a game of three halves!

Smudger

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Re: Micro bore or mini bore
« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2018, 10:06:23 pm »
All this talk of more wear on a pump
And battery because of 2 mill difference.  ???

My last system (pump and battery) lasted 6 years with microbore before I sold it on.

I really don’t think it alters the life time of pumps and battery. If it does, it’s tiny.

Jonny,

It does make a difference in flow rate for me.

But let’s be honest - who cares! They both work.

My preference is just a wider bore for more flow and I find my battery seems to fair better with the larger bore.

Spruce as always has the details!

But again, it really doesn’t matter. If this is all us windys have got to worry about, we must be bored  ;D

Out of interest what jets do you use ?
Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

dazmond

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Re: Micro bore or mini bore
« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2018, 10:31:55 pm »
I  have used minibore for the last 9 years ...never used microbore so can't comment but the mini bore is very robust had the one hose from day1 ...9 years old  now :)

i guarantee youll NEVER go back to minibore once you ve used microbore....your just making your working day harder than it needs to be.......
I really don't see why it's making my day harder by using mini bore  ???  ;D

you dont know anything else apart for using minibore.....if you ever buy some microbore for your next hose you ll know what im on about...... :)

same with xtreme poles,hot water and electric reels,put them all together and you have a much easier working day....
price higher/work harder!

zesty

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Re: Micro bore or mini bore
« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2018, 08:25:17 am »
All this talk of more wear on a pump
And battery because of 2 mill difference.  ???

My last system (pump and battery) lasted 6 years with microbore before I sold it on.

I really don’t think it alters the life time of pumps and battery. If it does, it’s tiny.

Jonny,

It does make a difference in flow rate for me.

But let’s be honest - who cares! They both work.

My preference is just a wider bore for more flow and I find my battery seems to fair better with the larger bore.

Spruce as always has the details!

But again, it really doesn’t matter. If this is all us windys have got to worry about, we must be bored  ;D

Out of interest what jets do you use ?
Darran

3mm.

I also use Gardiner green 5.5mm pole hose. Which I found (to my amazement) produces a much better flow than standard 5mm. Amazing what half a mm can do for flow!




Smudger

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Re: Micro bore or mini bore
« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2018, 08:43:30 am »
so your restricting the flow down to 5.5 mm before the jets then ?

negates the use of the larger size reel hose really

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience