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peekeclean

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sodium hypochlorite 15%
« on: November 29, 2018, 09:48:20 pm »
hi all can anyone give me some advice on sodium hypochlorite 15%? iv a small job to clean some realy bad white cladding on a house and thought id use some of this as it did a good job on my patio,been looking on youtube at ways to do it by no dilution rate for it so any help would be great?.

thanks joe

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Re: sodium hypochlorite 15%
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2018, 09:52:52 pm »
I would use a traffic film remover as its far safer.

You will probably turn the plastic orange and/or stain in.

If you really want to use SH then you're looking at a 1.0-2.0% recipe

Splash & dash

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Re: sodium hypochlorite 15%
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2018, 10:32:42 pm »
hi all can anyone give me some advice on sodium hypochlorite 15%? iv a small job to clean some realy bad white cladding on a house and thought id use some of this as it did a good job on my patio,been looking on youtube at ways to do it by no dilution rate for it so any help would be great?.

thanks joe
1 ltr of hypo to 4 ltr water , it can turn plastic particularly old white plastic yellow but it will revert back to white in a couple of hours , you can try a weaker mix if you want 1 ltr of hypo to 5 ltr water , try a weak mix and increase the strength untill you get the results you want

Smudger

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Re: sodium hypochlorite 15%
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2018, 11:24:46 am »
We use a lot of hypo in our pressure washing but not for cladding cleaning - TFR is a much better suited chemical

spray on and scrub off - you'll get fantastic results without any dangers you get with hypo

Darran
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harleyman

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Re: sodium hypochlorite 15%
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2018, 07:44:53 pm »
well ive think ive read on here that some used biological washing powder cant remember what ratio ive used it on conny roofs and seemed to work ok  but it has to be biological  I thought it sounded strange at first but has they say nothing ventured bla bla

Splash & dash

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Re: sodium hypochlorite 15%
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2018, 08:31:58 pm »
We use a lot of hypo in our pressure washing but not for cladding cleaning - TFR is a much better suited chemical

spray on and scrub off - you'll get fantastic results without any dangers you get with hypo

Darran



What you say is true but if you have old faded UPVC hypo will make it look much better than tfr products will ever do as it will bleach the staining , we always use hypo now on old plastic and it makes a huge difference to the finished look BUT and it’s a big but you do have to be careful not to go to strong with the mix

Smudger

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Re: sodium hypochlorite 15%
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2018, 07:20:05 am »
It depends on the staining - hypo can’t/ does not bleach everything

Darran
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Slacky

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Re: sodium hypochlorite 15%
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2018, 09:00:51 am »
We use a lot of hypo in our pressure washing but not for cladding cleaning - TFR is a much better suited chemical

spray on and scrub off - you'll get fantastic results without any dangers you get with hypo

Darran



What you say is true but if you have old faded UPVC hypo will make it look much better than tfr products will ever do as it will bleach the staining , we always use hypo now on old plastic and it makes a huge difference to the finished look BUT and it’s a big but you do have to be careful not to go to strong with the mix

How careful, what strength mix? 2%

Smudger

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Re: sodium hypochlorite 15%
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2018, 10:47:15 am »
Anywhere from neat to 3% - depends on what the the job is - wear protective clothing unless you like to ruin your cloths - eye protection and don’t go mixing it with any old chemical - I’ve seen a reaction even with tfr - just an inert detergent for smellability 😁

Apply with a quality pump sprayer like ik9 and don’t do it on very windy days

Common sense rules - in reality unless you spill it neat over a lawn your unlikely to kill off any plants

Darran
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dazmond

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Re: sodium hypochlorite 15%
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2018, 01:10:10 pm »
Anywhere from neat to 3% - depends on what the the job is - wear protective clothing unless you like to ruin your cloths - eye protection and don’t go mixing it with any old chemical - I’ve seen a reaction even with tfr - just an inert detergent for smellability 😁

Apply with a quality pump sprayer like ik9 and don’t do it on very windy days

Common sense rules - in reality unless you spill it neat over a lawn your unlikely to kill off any plants

Darran

sod that!its not worth the risk on a f/s/g clean job...... virosol in a backpack plugged into my pole is all i use,maybe some cif if the white frames are really black.....i hate the smell of bleach too which is another reason to not use it.....
price higher/work harder!

Splash & dash

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Re: sodium hypochlorite 15%
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2018, 06:10:23 pm »
We use a lot of hypo in our pressure washing but not for cladding cleaning - TFR is a much better suited chemical

spray on and scrub off - you'll get fantastic results without any dangers you get with hypo

Darran



What you say is true but if you have old faded UPVC hypo will make it look much better than tfr products will ever do as it will bleach the staining , we always use hypo now on old plastic and it makes a huge difference to the finished look BUT and it’s a big but you do have to be careful not to go to strong with the mix

How careful, what strength mix? 2%


2% mix should be fine if it does go yellow/brown it will return back to white in a couple of hours . NEVER USE 15% NEAT ON PLASTICS 😬😬😬😬😬

peekeclean

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Re: sodium hypochlorite 15%
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2018, 04:56:33 pm »
thanks for all the replys guys. whats the easy way to make a 2% mix then in liters like 4l water to 1hypo? thanks joe

nathankaye

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Re: sodium hypochlorite 15%
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2018, 05:06:47 pm »
Normal house bleach is 2% strength and some even come pre scented. So if its just the odd job you get, is fsg jobs just buy some for as n when
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Stoots

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Re: sodium hypochlorite 15%
« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2018, 10:38:21 pm »
Just use bleach.

For fsg etc I always wack a bit in.

In my van I carry all purpose cleaner, washing up liquid, bleach and cream cleaner.

All usually Asda smart price or similar cheap supermarket brands.

Mix them all together in spray bottle for a lovely blend of cladding/Conny/fsg cleaner.

Simple supermarket ingredients, no need for virosol/tfr/hypo and all that jazz

All purpose cleaner is a degreaser like G101, flash or virosol but a bit thinner as it's cheaper, just use it neat .. it's like 25p for 500ml.

Bleach is well like weak hypo and cheap as chips

Washing up liquid is a degreaser plus it adds a nice foam  to allow the other ingredient a to stick and dwell.

Cream cleaner is abrasive so good for restoring uPVC  and I've found that slapping some on the brush head for first cleans and cladding works really well.

Splash & dash

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Re: sodium hypochlorite 15%
« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2018, 11:07:35 pm »
Just use bleach.

For fsg etc I always wack a bit in.

In my van I carry all purpose cleaner, washing up liquid, bleach and cream cleaner.

All usually Asda smart price or similar cheap supermarket brands.

Mix them all together in spray bottle for a lovely blend of cladding/Conny/fsg cleaner.

Simple supermarket ingredients, no need for virosol/tfr/hypo and all that jazz

All purpose cleaner is a degreaser like G101, flash or virosol but a bit thinner as it's cheaper, just use it neat .. it's like 25p for 500ml.

Bleach is well like weak hypo and cheap as chips

Washing up liquid is a degreaser plus it adds a nice foam  to allow the other ingredient a to stick and dwell.

Cream cleaner is abrasive so good for restoring uPVC  and I've found that slapping some on the brush head for first cleans and cladding works really well.



Try reaserching what mixing washing up liquid and bleach/ hypo  causes , these chemicals should never be mixed together  highly dangerous and illegal

rosskesava

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Re: sodium hypochlorite 15%
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2018, 12:50:46 am »
On the advise of another window cleaner, I now use Flash liquid.

It does the job brilliantly.
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Splash & dash

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Re: sodium hypochlorite 15%
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2018, 12:15:22 pm »
On the advise of another window cleaner, I now use Flash liquid.

It does the job brilliantly.




So it might but it also causes cancer !!!!!

p1w1

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Re: sodium hypochlorite 15%
« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2018, 12:39:37 pm »
so do fumes from a diesel heater  ;D

Stoots

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Re: sodium hypochlorite 15%
« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2018, 12:42:01 pm »
Just use bleach.

For fsg etc I always wack a bit in.

In my van I carry all purpose cleaner, washing up liquid, bleach and cream cleaner.

All usually Asda smart price or similar cheap supermarket brands.

Mix them all together in spray bottle for a lovely blend of cladding/Conny/fsg cleaner.

Simple supermarket ingredients, no need for virosol/tfr/hypo and all that jazz

All purpose cleaner is a degreaser like G101, flash or virosol but a bit thinner as it's cheaper, just use it neat .. it's like 25p for 500ml.

Bleach is well like weak hypo and cheap as chips

Washing up liquid is a degreaser plus it adds a nice foam  to allow the other ingredient a to stick and dwell.

Cream cleaner is abrasive so good for restoring uPVC  and I've found that slapping some on the brush head for first cleans and cladding works really well.



Try reaserching what mixing washing up liquid and bleach/ hypo  causes , these chemicals should never be mixed together  highly dangerous and illegal

It'll be reet old lad

zesty

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Re: sodium hypochlorite 15%
« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2018, 03:22:31 pm »
On the advise of another window cleaner, I now use Flash liquid.

It does the job brilliantly.




So it might but it also causes cancer !!!!!

I actually rung clover chemicals to ask them weather I could mix their surfactant with hypo, they said it wouldn’t cause any harm at all.

So I’m not sure about those claims.

However I would definitely use caution, I’ve started using only a small amount of surfactant in my softwash mix as I found it wasn’t really necessary, I still get good results without it being really ‘sticky’

We’re outside in the fresh air which helps. It’s cleaners who work with bleach all day 5 days a week that I think are at risk.