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Nick Day

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Re: Gutter vacs, are they worth it?
« Reply #40 on: November 25, 2018, 09:38:12 am »
We don't deal in sour grapes here so don't know what you mean by that? I'm basing my comment on the Atoms that have been brought to us by people asking us why they have stopped picking up. As soon as we have seen inside we have seen why and it's due to the machine not being configured for gutter cleaning, and the filters getting damp and clogging up.

lal

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Re: Gutter vacs, are they worth it?
« Reply #41 on: November 25, 2018, 11:57:56 am »
We don't deal in sour grapes here so don't know what you mean by that? I'm basing my comment on the Atoms that have been brought to us by people asking us why they have stopped picking up. As soon as we have seen inside we have seen why and it's due to the machine not being configured for gutter cleaning, and the filters getting damp and clogging up.

 Hi Nick, under normal practice the Filters on all Gutter vacs should be cleaned after every job, so they are ready for the
 next job, otherwise they just won't be as effective.

Splash & dash

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Re: Gutter vacs, are they worth it?
« Reply #42 on: November 25, 2018, 01:15:18 pm »
We don't deal in sour grapes here so don't know what you mean by that? I'm basing my comment on the Atoms that have been brought to us by people asking us why they have stopped picking up. As soon as we have seen inside we have seen why and it's due to the machine not being configured for gutter cleaning, and the filters getting damp and clogging up.




The atom isn’t a particularly good one I admit but the sky vac industrial is a top piece of kit in the right hands , it’s surely common sense to keep filters clean otherwise you will have no suction , not rocket science I think a lot of people buy kit and don’t have a clue what they are doing I see it a lot with windowcleaning ,and gutter clearance is no different we get asked to sort out blocked gutters that others say cannot be done with a vac , not all can be I accept that . I think there is a need for someone to train people how to survey a job : how to use a camera , and how to succeed in clearing a gutter using a vac , I think all that is easy to some of us but it seams to elude a lot of people , always makes me laugh how many need help with a rams template shows quite clearly they haven’t got a clue what they are doing

Nick Day

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Re: Gutter vacs, are they worth it?
« Reply #43 on: November 25, 2018, 03:50:59 pm »
Alex replied before. Clogging is not the problem. The fibers of the  fabric of the bag filters expand when they get wet and suction gets lost virtually immediately until the filter dries out. It easily solved and once sorted the machines never block or loose suction,during any weather conditions.

JBC88

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Re: Gutter vacs, are they worth it?
« Reply #44 on: November 25, 2018, 03:59:38 pm »
Slightly off topic, but Nick you mentioned on a previous post that you have a document about pricing gutters and getting extra work etc that you would be willing to email to anyone, please could you send me it  or upload an attachment for everyone on here?

Thanks

lee_dewing

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Re: Gutter vacs, are they worth it?
« Reply #45 on: November 25, 2018, 04:05:32 pm »
+1 👍
Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work.     - Aristotle

lee_dewing

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Re: Gutter vacs, are they worth it?
« Reply #46 on: November 25, 2018, 04:09:06 pm »
Thanks for your honest reply Robbo

Good luck to you👍

Seems that Nick says the problem with atom is easily rectified

Don’t know how as no experience of gutter vacs

A drier bag 🤔

Must be getting busy with gutter vac now robbo 🍁🍂🍁🤗
Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work.     - Aristotle

robbo333

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Re: Gutter vacs, are they worth it?
« Reply #47 on: November 25, 2018, 05:21:37 pm »
Lee, unfortunately bad timing for me!

I bought the gutter vac and the same week decided to take the mrs away for a few days to Bath as she was feeling a bit down.
Came back and she suffered a complete nervous breakdown, so I had to take a week off to look after her. She is recovering well and her son is spending time with her now, but I am about 10 days behind, plus van went in Friday for MOT and service and now we've got some storms to come.

You gotta keep smiling.

I won't even be thinking about the gutter vac, although i've a couple to do on Saturday.

Having said that, I bought the gutter vac because, this year, I gave away about 25 gutter jobs to a friend of mine who is starting up window cleaning, gutter vac etc. I can trust him totally to look after my customers properly. And this is only custies who specifically asked me if I knew anyone. Dan also gets all the window cleaning work I don't want (about 50% of all my enquiries go to him).  I have only had the chance to speak to about 5 customers at the moment and have 3 jobs booked in. (one is next year).

For the minute, I just want to catch up on window cleaning work and get the mrs up and running again.  :P
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Smudger

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Re: Gutter vacs, are they worth it?
« Reply #48 on: November 25, 2018, 05:22:39 pm »
must be doing it wrong for the last 9 years the omnivac doesn't use a filter bag unless were doing an internal dust removal job

I do the same for the new vac we have - no bag while clearing gutters

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

robbo333

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Re: Gutter vacs, are they worth it?
« Reply #49 on: November 25, 2018, 05:35:24 pm »
Nick.

Thanks for the heads up on the filter, it wouldn't of even occurred to me.

Although, on the Sky Vac site, their video says what to do with the filter.
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SB Cleaning

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Splash & dash

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Re: Gutter vacs, are they worth it?
« Reply #51 on: November 25, 2018, 09:23:05 pm »
Has anybody got or used this vac.

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F142520203608



All center Inlets will block side entry is the way to go in 10 years only had one blockage , with the centre inlet it blocked on 9 out of 10 jobs , a far better vac than the one in your link is the Grippatank vac lee Pryor did a video of his I thought what a load of rubbish , but he’s right it’s a very good basic vac I now have one and can say apart from the sky vac industrial and omnivac it’s the best one I have used and I have tried a few


Nick Day

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Re: Gutter vacs, are they worth it?
« Reply #52 on: November 26, 2018, 10:48:37 am »
If you put your email addresses on here and I can email you the document. The reason some machines block is because they don't adapt them for gutter cleaning, our machines are centre entry but don't block as we adapt them to stop this happening. It's not a case of taking an off the shelf machine and sticking some poles with it as some people think, we spend about an hour adapting the machines for gutter cleaning. It shocks us when we've seen other machines that they sell them without adapting them, it's no wonder people get problems and blockages and are put off gutter cleaning.

Smudger

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Re: Gutter vacs, are they worth it?
« Reply #53 on: November 26, 2018, 03:55:19 pm »
Yes I got one of those I changed the central inlet to side entry mainly because it was set up for 38mm hose

The omnivac is central entry, but rarely blocks

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

JBC88

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Re: Gutter vacs, are they worth it?
« Reply #54 on: November 26, 2018, 07:36:16 pm »
If you put your email addresses on here and I can email you the document. The reason some machines block is because they don't adapt them for gutter cleaning, our machines are centre entry but don't block as we adapt them to stop this happening. It's not a case of taking an off the shelf machine and sticking some poles with it as some people think, we spend about an hour adapting the machines for gutter cleaning. It shocks us when we've seen other machines that they sell them without adapting them, it's no wonder people get problems and blockages and are put off gutter cleaning.
If you put your email addresses on here and I can email you the document. The reason some machines block is because they don't adapt them for gutter cleaning, our machines are centre entry but don't block as we adapt them to stop this happening. It's not a case of taking an off the shelf machine and sticking some poles with it as some people think, we spend about an hour adapting the machines for gutter cleaning. It shocks us when we've seen other machines that they sell them without adapting them, it's no wonder people get problems and blockages and are put off gutter cleaning.

Jbrowncleaning@gmail.com

Many thanks 👍

SB Cleaning

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Re: Guttter vacs, are they worth it?
« Reply #55 on: November 26, 2018, 10:03:42 pm »
Cheers guys.

If I get one, it’ll be a decent sky vac then.

You can have mine if you want.
Slacky, which vac is it and how much do you want for it? I could do with another one.
What size pole and hose?

Thanks
Tom

Off the top of my head its this one.

https://www.spinaclean.com/skyvac-industrial-85-wet-dry

It has 37' of pole, would be 40' but I had to lose a few feet off one section as two sections got stuck one day.

50mm hose.

Its had very very little use. The machine is still gleaming basically. I'd want £1,650.00. with camera.
Where abouts you based?

Hampshire.
Would you take 1500 for the vac mate??

Slacky

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Re: Gutter vacs, are they worth it?
« Reply #56 on: November 26, 2018, 11:56:06 pm »
If you’d like to discuss call me on 07944 431670.

SB Cleaning

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Re: Gutter vacs, are they worth it?
« Reply #57 on: November 27, 2018, 06:13:28 am »
If you’d like to discuss call me on 07944 431670.
I will give you a bell later today mate

Slacky

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Re: Gutter vacs, are they worth it?
« Reply #58 on: November 27, 2018, 07:48:04 am »
Ok.

JandS

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Re: Gutter vacs, are they worth it?
« Reply #59 on: November 27, 2018, 09:13:14 am »
How do you rectify the problem.
I only use the filter if the stuff in the gutter is dry but so far never had a problem.
Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.