[lee_dewing]

Hello

I have a shurflo 100 psi pump and need to get it 100% water 💦 tight

Anyone use John guest fittings on there shurflo pump

I currently use these on in/out water flow sectionhttps://www.screwfix.com/p/hozelock-threaded-outdoor-tap-connector/52973?tc=LT3&ds_kid=92700019785657668&ds_rl=1249410&ds_rl=1241687&ds_rl=1245250&ds_rl=1249484&ds_rl=1245250&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIxejDvNDY3gIVaLftCh3FFAvyEAQYASABEgKXTPD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.dss of my pump

I take it 3/4 inch

I did email gardeners, unlike them but no response 🥺

As that where I did intend buying from them🤔

Thanks

[Simon Trapani]

Most pumps take a 3/8" male thread. So if you wanted to go from your pump to say 1/2" JG tubing you would need two of these: https://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/all-products/pump-hose/hose-fittings-adapters/john-guest-fittings/1-2-fittings/john-guest-a-push-in-fitting-to-3-8-male-screw-bspt-thread.html

[Simon Trapani]

Forget that advice. I just checked your link. You must have male threads on your pump? I think you need something like this: https://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/all-products/pump-hose/hose-fittings-adapters/john-guest-fittings/1-2-fittings/john-guest-outside-tap-a-to-a-push-fit-adapter.html

[Spruce]

Forget that advice. I just checked your link. You must have male threads on your pump? I think you need something like this: https://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/all-products/pump-hose/hose-fittings-adapters/john-guest-fittings/1-2-fittings/john-guest-outside-tap-a-to-a-push-fit-adapter.html

I've just tried a 3/4" tap connector onto a Shurflo pump and its far too big. I then fitted the 1/2" to 3/4" adaptor and the 1/2" female threaded brass Hozelock reducer screws on.
Williamson pumps advise its a 1/2" thread.

[lee_dewing]

Yes male threads.

Thanks very much for your help Simon 👍

Have a good weekend 🍻

[lee_dewing]

Hello spruce

Mine is defo 1/2 inch male hozlelock without the reducer in it

If that makes sense
I’ve had shurflo with female fittings before, I’m sure 🤔

All good fun 😬

[Spruce]

Hello spruce

Mine is defo 1/2 inch male hozlelock without the reducer in it

If that makes sense
I’ve had shurflo with female fittings before, I’m sure 🤔

All good fun 😬

We have only ever used the purpose made Shurflo connectors.

https://www.williamsonpumps.com/234-2926-category--a-1421-p.asp

and/or

https://www.williamsonpumps.com/234-3926-category--a-1517-p.asp

and

https://www.williamsonpumps.com/255-215-category--a-1325-p.asp

These mating surfaces have a conical shape. We tighten them up with our fingers and then carefully nip them slightly tighter with a small spanner.

We have used either stiff 1/2" hose or plastic reinforced clear 1/2" hose with o clips. We drip the end of the hose in boiling water, the push it on the barb and squeeze the o clip tight while the hose is still warm. The pump on my son's van is above the top of his tank and he has not has an issue with air leaks. We also haven't had an issue with pressure leaks after the pump.

My pumps are situated well over halfway up the side of my tank. Its been this way for the past 11 years with no issue.



This screw-on filter we found was rubbish. Not only was the filter bowl on top but we experienced air leaks on the suction side.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-Shurflo-Water-Pump-Inline-Water-Filter-12mm-to-1-2-BSP-053035/273319426618?epid=645154156&hash=item3fa31b7a3a:g:dxUAAMXQBwlRQdoi:rk:8:pf:0

[Simon Trapani]

John Guest fittings are much beater IMO and so easy to take apart and reconnect, unlike barbs with jubilee clips. Even when you take a jubilee clip off you've invariably got to slit the pipe, sometimes damaging the barb. Either that or use hot water. John Guest all the way for me.

Regards the 3/4" or 1/2" you thankfully almost always get an adaptor with every tap connector I've ever bought. It's a good job because I can never remember which size is which!

[Simon Trapani]

This is always useful for thread size: https://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/blog/BSPguide/

[Spruce]

John Guest fittings are much beater IMO and so easy to take apart and reconnect, unlike barbs with jubilee clips. Even when you take a jubilee clip off you've invariably got to slit the pipe, sometimes damaging the barb. Either that or use hot water. John Guest all the way for me.

Regards the 3/4" or 1/2" you thankfully almost always get an adaptor with every tap connector I've ever bought. It's a good job because I can never remember which size is which!

Hi Simon,
On a side note, please may I ask what tank you have. I have never seen a tank with baffles and what appears to be a strengthening tube in the center.

I also like the battery holder, very neat and compact. Where did you get that from please? It looks as though it could be a PureFreedom tank frame but the controllers are Gardiners Spring version. So I'm confused.

[Walter Mitty]

I have a similar water tank.  I can't recall where I bought it now though as it was over ten years ago.
Mine is a holding tank.  It was the only one I could find with sufficient capacity (a bit over 1,000 litres) that would fit through the doorway of my unit.  The doorway is slightly wider than a standard household doorway, 2'9" rather than 2'6".  If the door was 2'6", it wouldn't have fitted through.  Also, the tank I have has the baffles horizontal (due to the position of the lid).
There is the added advantage that no cage is required when used as a holding tank.

[Simon Trapani]

Hi Spruce

Yes it's a 650 Pure Freedom tank & stainless steel cage Spruce. Just a delivery system as I have a static. I think it's the older style to accommodate the battery tray. They've since changed it but I prefer this one as, like you say, it's neat & compact. I'm sure they customise if you ask though. I hope so because I want to upgrade my other van in the not too distant future.

The battery tray is just powder coated, again from Pure Freedom. You have to watch the physical dimensions of the battery though as my old battery wouldn't allow the upright studs of the cover to fit. The old Banner 110 battery was too long so had to buy another. Not sure which one I have now without checking as the sticker is at the back. Lucas 110 I think. It had to face that way though for the terminals to fit correctly in the tray (they have to be at the back).

Yes the controllers are Gardiner's badged Spring controllers. Just because I try to be loyal to Gardiner's  if possible & I think they were marginally cheaper at the time. Only downside is it is a slight stretch over the reels into the van (Newer Shape Vivaro) to reach the controllers.

You may also remember you advised me in an older thread of the Anderson connectors? They were fine but my charger was a bit bulky. I have since bought a CTEK charger so leave the tails of that connected. You can buy extra tails then for each van as you wouldn't want to be undoing those wingnuts on the battery tray every night. I've read most of the discussions on batteries etc but I must admit though, even though I don't do much mileage the Sterling battery to battery charger seems to keep it topped up. I just connect the CTEK charger every week or so from an outside socket on my house and run a thick self made up extension lead under the van doors. Overnight seems to pretty much do it according to the lights on the charger. Leaving it float charging for that final bit seems a bit needless & once I drove off on the Monday morning forgetting it was still connected!

[Spruce]

Hi Spruce

Yes it's a 650 Pure Freedom tank & stainless steel cage Spruce. Just a delivery system as I have a static. I think it's the older style to accommodate the battery tray. They've since changed it but I prefer this one as, like you say, it's neat & compact. I'm sure they customise if you ask though. I hope so because I want to upgrade my other van in the not too distant future.

The battery tray is just powder coated, again from Pure Freedom. You have to watch the physical dimensions of the battery though as my old battery wouldn't allow the upright studs of the cover to fit. The old Banner 110 battery was too long so had to buy another. Not sure which one I have now without checking as the sticker is at the back. Lucas 110 I think. It had to face that way though for the terminals to fit correctly in the tray (they have to be at the back).

Yes the controllers are Gardiner's badged Spring controllers. Just because I try to be loyal to Gardiner's  if possible & I think they were marginally cheaper at the time. Only downside is it is a slight stretch over the reels into the van (Newer Shape Vivaro) to reach the controllers.

You may also remember you advised me in an older thread of the Anderson connectors? They were fine but my charger was a bit bulky. I have since bought a CTEK charger so leave the tails of that connected. You can buy extra tails then for each van as you wouldn't want to be undoing those wingnuts on the battery tray every night. I've read most of the discussions on batteries etc but I must admit though, even though I don't do much mileage the Sterling battery to battery charger seems to keep it topped up. I just connect the CTEK charger every week or so from an outside socket on my house and run a thick self made up extension lead under the van doors. Overnight seems to pretty much do it according to the lights on the charger. Leaving it float charging for that final bit seems a bit needless & once I drove off on the Monday morning forgetting it was still connected!

Thanks for that detail Simon, I appreciate it.

On their new systems they have been advertising 2 x 110amp batteries for the extra requirements of diesel heater, pumps and electric hose reels.

Stupid I know, but PureFreedom have that colour blue spot on. I think it makes their systems.

With regard to the Sterling battery to battery charger I wish someone on here had one of them linked into a Victron battery monitor so we could see exactly what that charger does. In fact when I eventually get my next van sorted I might try to persuade myself to invest £400 for the kit.

What I can't fathom is that my alternator will only charge my battery at a charge rate the battery. After a day's hammering the gauge says it receiving a charge of around 8 amps. Driving takes a max of 15 minutes so thats 2 amps back into the battery. The days work will have taken around 20 amps. So I arrive home with a deficit. 
If the Sterling B2B (BB1230) charger is rated at 30 amps and that's peak charge, then that's at least an hour travelling time.

[Simon Trapani]

I don’t unsterdand them fully by any means but I do know the maths on charge times etc I read about from the likes of yourself & Ian Sheppard, although very helpful, don’t seem to be quite neccasary in real world use from my own personal experience. 

My older Vivaro has an ordinary scr & whichever of my two chargers I connect, always seems fully charged overnight. Although both my vans have two man setups usually there’s only one man to a van so the battery doesn’t get hammered. Also the controllers are set under 50 so are using less than half power/ampage I’m guessing?

[lee_dewing]

Thanks guys

Very interesting reading 📖

Professional looking, tidy vans there 👍

Mine is just a rectangle bucket, with a shurflo pump mounted inside one of the short ends

Opposite end car battery which due to my cartek charger is nearly 2 yrs old; charged every night.

Oh use power regulator recommend by tosh👍

My setup is this way as I use 25 ltr barrels, water setup at parents and no off street parking 😣

Thanks everyone for the help 👍