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Re: Grippatank 9kw Hydroheat 🔥
« Reply #200 on: November 27, 2018, 06:14:07 pm »
The top and bottom of it is Daz.... Nigel's is better than yours!! 🌡🔥🎺💨 ;D
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dazmond

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Re: Grippatank 9kw Hydroheat 🔥
« Reply #201 on: November 27, 2018, 06:18:22 pm »
I don’t believe that should be happening for a minute Daz my 5kw was sometimes to hot in those conditions with the whole reel out m8,mine was so hot today with half the hose out it was so hot the water was spitting out the brush.

i was told by oliver himself to expect this when he fitted my heater and he was right.....

check it when its 2c or 3c outside with all your hose off the reel......

other times its hot at brush end but not on a very cold day...
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Jonny 87

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Re: Grippatank 9kw Hydroheat 🔥
« Reply #202 on: November 27, 2018, 06:21:42 pm »
I have yet to change to grippas hot hose I’m still using standard microbore maybe it’ll be even hotter when I change,like I say no frost this morning just damp and nearly cracking glass on max heat output.

how much hose did you have off the reel?with nearly 100m off on freezing ground with 2c-3c ambient air temperature itll be warm but not hot at brush end even on max heat output....

Daz, out of curiosity what happens when your turn yours down to “minimum”? Does it just go “Warm” or “cold”?

Like NWH there is no way I could run mine on full heat in the winter. Even with 100 metres of hose out it’s very uncomfortable to put your hand under it. I have mine just nice and warm now on the minimum setting.
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dazmond

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Re: Grippatank 9kw Hydroheat 🔥
« Reply #203 on: November 27, 2018, 06:37:11 pm »
I have yet to change to grippas hot hose I’m still using standard microbore maybe it’ll be even hotter when I change,like I say no frost this morning just damp and nearly cracking glass on max heat output.

how much hose did you have off the reel?with nearly 100m off on freezing ground with 2c-3c ambient air temperature itll be warm but not hot at brush end even on max heat output....

Daz, out of curiosity what happens when your turn yours down to “minimum”? Does it just go “Warm” or “cold”?

Like NWH there is no way I could run mine on full heat in the winter. Even with 100 metres of hose out it’s very uncomfortable to put your hand under it. I have mine just nice and warm now on the minimum setting.

the reason why yours is mega hot even with all your hose out is because you have a second pump constantly recirculating back to the tank jonny......

if i turn mine down to min itll be just warm at brush end with all my hose coiled up,on full heat setting its 60c+(too hot to keep your hand under it).....

apparently its not advisable to run the heater on minimum setting according to the manual i got with the heater......
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Dave Willis

Re: Grippatank 9kw Hydroheat 🔥
« Reply #204 on: November 27, 2018, 07:02:43 pm »
You got a duff one Daz  ???

Slacky

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Re: Grippatank 9kw Hydroheat 🔥
« Reply #205 on: November 27, 2018, 07:20:31 pm »
I think for these guys who think they've got the hottest kit out there should prove their point by showing us the temp at the brush head with a thermometer, its bullshit the way I see it.

For me to get the kind of temps they're rattling about on here I need to have a flow going direct back to the tank and to leave it on for at least an hour in the morning before I go out, if not more.

NWH

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Re: Grippatank 9kw Hydroheat 🔥
« Reply #206 on: November 27, 2018, 07:20:46 pm »
You should recirculate these heaters I did with my 5kw for it to be kind to the chamber and burner,even when I turn the flow up to 80 when I’m working it’s as hot constantly as my 5kw was just after recirculating on the flow of 10,you could make a cup of tea with mine it’s as hot as my L5 gas heater was almost on max.
The 5kw is hot but the 9 is constantly hot at the brush regardless of hose out,even with the hose right out it’s smoking at the brush head I would not use it on max on a very cold day even if the hose was laying on a skating rink Daz maybe you haven’t got maximum battery power as you say you don’t have a mains hook up and do little mileage between jobs.

NWH

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Re: Grippatank 9kw Hydroheat 🔥
« Reply #207 on: November 27, 2018, 07:21:26 pm »
I’d be quiet happy to if I knew how lol.

Slacky

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Re: Grippatank 9kw Hydroheat 🔥
« Reply #208 on: November 27, 2018, 07:22:19 pm »
I’d be quiet happy to if I knew how lol.

If you knew how to what, measure the water temp?

dazmond

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Re: Grippatank 9kw Hydroheat 🔥
« Reply #209 on: November 27, 2018, 07:22:59 pm »
You got a duff one Daz  ???

no dave....its more than hot enough for cleaning glass....im getting between 40-65c at the  brush head depending on hose out and ambient air temperature but on a very cold day with 100m out on frozen/frosty ground its warm not hot at brush end because i lose half the heat from the hose.....you dont want it too hot on days like that anyway unless you like replacing glass for your customers windows.... ::)roll ;D
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Slacky

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Re: Grippatank 9kw Hydroheat 🔥
« Reply #210 on: November 27, 2018, 07:23:25 pm »
You're quite funny NWH without realising it. You say your water is that hot it's nearly cracking glass; thats like saying you shag your missus so much she's nearly pregnant.

NWH

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Re: Grippatank 9kw Hydroheat 🔥
« Reply #211 on: November 27, 2018, 07:29:11 pm »
You’d like to shag my Mrs lol,think of it as like looking in a garage thinking I’d love to buy 1 of them Range Rovers but knowing deep down you’ve got
No chance m8 lol.

NWH

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Re: Grippatank 9kw Hydroheat 🔥
« Reply #212 on: November 27, 2018, 07:30:02 pm »
Like I say it’s hot.

dazmond

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Re: Grippatank 9kw Hydroheat 🔥
« Reply #213 on: November 27, 2018, 07:30:24 pm »
You should recirculate these heaters I did with my 5kw for it to be kind to the chamber and burner,even when I turn the flow up to 80 when I’m working it’s as hot constantly as my 5kw was just after recirculating on the flow of 10,you could make a cup of tea with mine it’s as hot as my L5 gas heater was almost on max.
The 5kw is hot but the 9 is constantly hot at the brush regardless of hose out,even with the hose right out it’s smoking at the brush head I would not use it on max on a very cold day even if the hose was laying on a skating rink Daz maybe you haven’t got maximum battery power as you say you don’t have a mains hook up and do little mileage between jobs.

nigel your talking rubbish mate......i was told by OLIVER HIMSELF that i would get around 20c-30c at the brush head on a very cold day with 100m of hose out on freezing cold ground and thats exactly my findings....

he also said id get 60c+ at brush head with all my hose out on a warm day in summer and thats my findings too......

40c-50c is not uncommon with a 30 or 40m off the reel with ambient air temperature of 10c-15c(like it will be tomorrow)
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NWH

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Re: Grippatank 9kw Hydroheat 🔥
« Reply #214 on: November 27, 2018, 07:40:43 pm »
It’s not a competition Daz I’ve used a diesel heater when you was laddering so I know how they work,no offence.
All I’m saying is mine is producing very hot water no hose out all hose out,battery power with these heaters working at optimum performance is important if battery power is poor they pump diesel at a lazy pace if it’s good they pump like grandad on Viagra.

dazmond

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Re: Grippatank 9kw Hydroheat 🔥
« Reply #215 on: November 27, 2018, 07:48:33 pm »
my batteries are fine nigel,i charge them up every night,i also have the same split charge relay that you have.....

i think the only way your water is getting hotter is because you spend a lot more time driving to work and between jobs (with pipe back to tank)raising the  starting temp of the water in your tank......

it takes me 10-15 mins to get to my first job of the day most days and i can spend all morning without moving the van with most of my hose off the reel.......
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P @ F

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Re: Grippatank 9kw Hydroheat 🔥
« Reply #216 on: November 27, 2018, 07:51:20 pm »
How come 2 of you others have return to tank yet Daz does not , this is surely his falling down point as he is only heating cold straight from the tank , you others have , and are heating on demand with pre heated water .
Why the difference in systems , i thought it was standard having return to tank ?
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

NWH

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Re: Grippatank 9kw Hydroheat 🔥
« Reply #217 on: November 27, 2018, 07:55:00 pm »
Maybe that’s what it is I’m not saying you have a dodgy heater at all,the back to tank obviously heats it right back up,I’m recirculating back to tank for at least 15 minutes between jobs most days maybe that’s the trick to it. Like I’ve said the way I’m using it the water is very hot and as far as extra diesel usage is concerned over the 5kw the differential between the 2 is hardly noticeable although it’s bound to be slightly higher with 9kw.

dazmond

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Re: Grippatank 9kw Hydroheat 🔥
« Reply #218 on: November 27, 2018, 07:56:02 pm »
How come 2 of you others have return to tank yet Daz does not , this is surely his falling down point as he is only heating cold straight from the tank , you others have , and are heating on demand with pre heated water .
Why the difference in systems , i thought it was standard having return to tank ?


all of us have a return to tank rich.......theres only jonny whos got a second pump constantly returning hot water to the tank while he s working though.....
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NWH

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Re: Grippatank 9kw Hydroheat 🔥
« Reply #219 on: November 27, 2018, 07:58:46 pm »
It doesn’t take that long to heat the tank water either,in a couple of hours if I take off the tank lid I’ll get steam,
If I place my hand on the side of the tank it’s warm,this rises the water temp prior to the burner meaning you are only having to heat warm water after a couple of hours rather than water that is 2-3 degrees.