[tlwcs]

On my tank I have the 3 kW but have the flow controller  set on 20 with  2 ball valves fitted .
This improves the temp by pumping from the bottom of the tank and directing it via 15mm push first pipes to the top of the tank. The result the whole tank is warm instead of the top.

Would love to see pics or a video of this set up please.

[Lee Pryor]

We have an electrician on site here. He and I are looking at making a pump and heater element box that circulates water from the tank through the reel and back to the tank while heating it.  or using the tanks pump and just having a heater element like the one hot tubs have

Or an aquarium heater my lads can just drop into the tank over night. We only want this for winter use to stop freezing overnight and through the work day. Summer is fine with chemicals.

[Tristan R Clean]

Lee

I thought you had an idea for heating water in the pipeline last year.
You were thinking of bringing it to the market.
What happened?

Tris

[Lee Pryor]

couldn't make the technology work. What we are thinking of now will work fine. Just thinking it through now.

[Tristan R Clean]

Well done for having a go.
I do think there is a gap in the market for a reasonably priced , efficient and safe water heating system for our trade.

T

[Perfect Windows]

Of those who have immersions in their vans, have any of you 'fessed up to your insurers? Not just that you have hot water but also the way you heat it?  I'd be interested to hear of your experiences.

Vin

[nathankaye]

Of those who have immersions in their vans, have any of you 'fessed up to your insurers? Not just that you have hot water but also the way you heat it?  I'd be interested to hear of your experiences.

Is there an actual need to do so, because one's have stuck an immersion inside a secure tank in their van?
What am I missing for the need to inform the insurance company

[dazmond]

Well done for having a go.
I do think there is a gap in the market for a reasonably priced , efficient and safe water heating system for our trade.

T

there already is.......a webasto 9kw diesel heater with frost stat feature.....costs around £4-£5 per working day in diesel.....ok a fairly high initial investment but these things last 10 years+ with the odd service here and there......

[Perfect Windows]

Of those who have immersions in their vans, have any of you 'fessed up to your insurers? Not just that you have hot water but also the way you heat it?  I'd be interested to hear of your experiences.

Is there an actual need to do so, because one's have stuck an immersion inside a secure tank in their van?
What am I missing for the need to inform the insurance company

Because if you don't tell the insurance company and there's a fire as a result of your modification, they won't pay out.

Vin

[dazmond]

over the course of 10 years a brand new professionally fitted diesel heater in a new van that you plan to keep for 10 years will cost you around £27 a week(including initial costs and say 3 services in that time plus diesel costs(£80 a month for 10 months each year)so around £14k...

if you earn (say £50k a year),thats £500k in 10 years is £14k acceptable to have hot water every working day for 10 years?

[֍Winp®oClean֍]

Of those who have immersions in their vans, have any of you 'fessed up to your insurers? Not just that you have hot water but also the way you heat it?  I'd be interested to hear of your experiences.

Is there an actual need to do so, because one's have stuck an immersion inside a secure tank in their van?
What am I missing for the need to inform the insurance company

Because if you don't tell the insurance company and there's a fire as a result of your modification, they won't pay out.

Vin

Can you provide evidence of your statement? I would be very interested to see it.

[nathankaye]

Of those who have immersions in their vans, have any of you 'fessed up to your insurers? Not just that you have hot water but also the way you heat it?  I'd be interested to hear of your experiences.

Is there an actual need to do so, because one's have stuck an immersion inside a secure tank in their van?
What am I missing for the need to inform the insurance company

Because if you don't tell the insurance company and there's a fire as a result of your modification, they won't pay out.

Vin

That would only be the case if its totally miss wired in the first place and only then if someone hasn't got a cut out fuse ox which again is very unlikely.
But I can see your point.

However, even on my faulty immersion I never had a problem with over heated live wires and most I would imagine know to use a dedicated line with a 3kw element, perhaps artic wiring for added protection and also the higher fuse required.

[G & M]

Where is the best place to buy a diesel heater?

[Slacky]

Of those who have immersions in their vans, have any of you 'fessed up to your insurers? Not just that you have hot water but also the way you heat it?  I'd be interested to hear of your experiences.

Is there an actual need to do so, because one's have stuck an immersion inside a secure tank in their van?
What am I missing for the need to inform the insurance company

Because if you don't tell the insurance company and there's a fire as a result of your modification, they won't pay out.

Vin

That would only be the case if its totally miss wired in the first place and only then if someone hasn't got a cut out fuse ox which again is very unlikely.
But I can see your point.

However, even on my faulty immersion I never had a problem with over heated live wires and most I would imagine know to use a dedicated line with a 3kw element, perhaps artic wiring for added protection and also the higher fuse required.

Someone only needs to have an extension lead that hasn’t been adequately uncoiled to start a fire with one of those things. Nothing to do with mis-wiring.

[dazmond]

Where is the best place to buy a diesel heater?

mine cost me £4,500 including installation,2 x numax 105ah batteries,smart split relay charger,cabinet,controller,fittings,hose,exhaust,etc.....but £750 was VAT so if your VAT registered youd be able to claim that back.....GRIPPATANK HYDROHEAT 9KW HEATER.......

i dont think you d be able to install one yourself unless your an ex mechanic/technical type of guy......

[Jonny 87]

over the course of 10 years a brand new professionally fitted diesel heater in a new van that you plan to keep for 10 years will cost you around £27 a week(including initial costs and say 3 services in that time plus diesel costs(£80 a month for 10 months each year)so around £14k...

if you earn (say £50k a year),thats £500k in 10 years is £14k acceptable to have hot water every working day for 10 years?

I’d say a big yes! But then again I am Biased now. 

Day of tinkering with it tomorrow at work. Love it so far though.

[tlwcs]

Of those who have immersions in their vans, have any of you 'fessed up to your insurers? Not just that you have hot water but also the way you heat it?  I'd be interested to hear of your experiences.

Vin

I have. I have always been honest with them declaring any mods. They have asked me to replace the cables regularly?
Whether they would be as honest as I have if needed, I doubt it
Tony

[AuRavelling79]

Daz said:

over the course of 10 years a brand new professionally fitted diesel heater in a new van that you plan to keep for 10 years will cost you around £27 a week(including initial costs and say 3 services in that time plus diesel costs(£80 a month for 10 months each year)so around £14k...

if you earn (say £50k a year),thats £500k in 10 years is £14k acceptable to have hot water every working day for 10 years?

I gave your comment a "like" - but for arguments sake let's say that hot lets you go on average 20% faster and earns you 10K more than you would have otherwise done. (Figure plucked out of my derriere  )

So now that's £100K EXTRA over ten years for 14K investment.

Still looks good.

[dazmond]

over the course of 10 years a brand new professionally fitted diesel heater in a new van that you plan to keep for 10 years will cost you around £27 a week(including initial costs and say 3 services in that time plus diesel costs(£80 a month for 10 months each year)so around £14k...

if you earn (say £50k a year),thats £500k in 10 years is £14k acceptable to have hot water every working day for 10 years?

I’d say a big yes! But then again I am Biased now. 

Day of tinkering with it tomorrow at work. Love it so far though.

no need to tinker with  it jonny!just press a button and go to work!

[dazmond]

Daz said:

over the course of 10 years a brand new professionally fitted diesel heater in a new van that you plan to keep for 10 years will cost you around £27 a week(including initial costs and say 3 services in that time plus diesel costs(£80 a month for 10 months each year)so around £14k...

if you earn (say £50k a year),thats £500k in 10 years is £14k acceptable to have hot water every working day for 10 years?

I gave your comment a "like" - but for arguments sake let's say that hot lets you go on average 20% faster and earns you 10K more than you would have otherwise done. (Figure plucked out of my derriere  )

So now that's £100K EXTRA over ten years for 14K investment.

Still looks good.

i used to smoke and drink and take illegal drugs for over 15 years malc...God knows how much i spent!rough estimates are £80k-£100k....and i always ended up feeling a lot worse after briefly feeling better,i also missed lots of days at work from being hungover so you could add a few grand extra on top of them figures in lost earnings......

£14k is a drop in the ocean for a low hassle hot water system with no worries about freezing issues overnight,a more comfortable working day and easier cleaning all year round.....as for cleaning 20% more....i dont....i just finish earlier and have more confidence when "splashing and dashing".....add ons are easier for sure esp in the warmer months when the water at brush end is 60c+.....same for them less frequent cleans,first cleans etc......