[H MAN]

ANYONE INTERESTED??

So it’s been while but can see that many people think our new handle swivel movement is no more different then any other swivel movement.

And had many manufactures/companies tell me this.

Even though squeegee swivel handle we have developed.

Can stop you from developing RSI Cramping and be used people that have restrictive movement, Arthritis in there hands, finger, wrists, forearms etc.

So look like there no forward thinking manufactures/companies out there that want it.

If anyone knows manufacturer, company or person that might be interested in this could you PM.




 

[Don Kee]

Dragons Den?

[Shrek]

Why don’t you upgrade to wfp???
Then you won’t get all them problems your having 

I’d say 95% of people who post on here are wfp and Many don’t have a clue how to use a squeegee

[P @ F]

I reckon that the problem is that any large producer want to sell to the masses and although plenty of people still use hand tools  its not like it used to be for lots , I used to have to go with hand tools when I was doing my commercial , but I reckon I pick up a mop and blade maybe twice a month now for maybe 6 windows .
Its a shame but its going the same way as the rat tail mop matey !

[P @ F]

      There you go , 2 people in 2 mins saying pretty much the same , looks like you will have to put an order in with Perry soon HMAN 

[Dave Willis]

Haven’t wagtail got a new one out anyway?

[Stoots]

Maybe you should try the U.S market?

I think the amount of window cleaners interested in trad tools in the UK is now very low, i very rarely see anyone take much interest in your posts on here.

My suggestion would be to get on Facebook and join some of the U.S based groups..I have joined a couple on there and the vast majority use traditional methods and ladders still.

[Slacky]

Why do you carry on with trad when WFP is superior, for those with arthritis it is anyway.

[cleaniac]

ANYONE INTERESTED??

So it’s been while but can see that many people think our new handle swivel movement is no more different then any other swivel movement.

And had many manufactures/companies tell me this.

Even though squeegee swivel handle we have developed.

Can stop you from developing RSI Cramping and be used people that have restrictive movement, Arthritis in there hands, finger, wrists, forearms etc.

So look like there no forward thinking manufactures/companies out there that want it.

If anyone knows manufacturer, company or person that might be interested in this could you PM.

It's not a question of weather its a good product in its design and what it sets out to do. I have seen it and i think its a great product in its own right.

However, Its all about weather there is commercial viability, and genuine value proposition to the end user.

At the end of the day, if i was suffering from arthritis. Window cleaning would not be a job i would continue to do.

Water fed poles have pretty much become the industry standard. Most on here have become window cleaners BECAUSE of wfp and posses little or no trad skills, and tbh there is no need to either.

I was and still am a trad window cleaner aswell, using squeegies, and scrim when the job requires it. But i dont see how buying more kit, to replace kit that still works, like it has done for the last 16 years with no issues is of any value to me, even though it might make my hand a bit more comfy. In fact i would probbably hate using it as learning skills with a fixed squeegie, and then having to 'get on' and use something else that changes the way the squeegie feels in my hand is something i just dont want to mess about with.

 And im sorry to say but that is the problem with most new product ideas, you are not alone in that.

[P @ F]

Wagtail is Willie Erkin isnt it ?
Why on earth would you go up against that , its like me going at Alex Gardiner with China imports made up in my garage , not undoable but rather a gamble either way !

[jonboywalton75]

I reckon that the problem is that any large producer want to sell to the masses and although plenty of people still use hand tools  its not like it used to be for lots , I used to have to go with hand tools when I was doing my commercial , but I reckon I pick up a mop and blade maybe twice a month now for maybe 6 windows .
Its a shame but its going the same way as the rat tail mop matey !

I haven't used a rat tail mop since the late 70's

[H MAN]

Ok everyone has negatives of there experiences using squeegees.
But seems strange no one really knows how to fix the problems.
RSI Cramping and be used people that have restrictive movement, Arthritis in there hands, finger, wrists, forearms etc.
All of these I personally have had, using other squeegees.
Over 16 years trial and error numerous different versions of squeegee movements, handles, ,quick lock connections plus other gadgets on it.

So this is the end result is now have none of these problems.
Using this squeegee a big plus is that you can use it anyway suits you.

Also regarding the patent we have on it, addresses all three.

1.   Novelty
2.   Inventive
3.   Industrial Applicability.

[Shrek]

Ok everyone has negatives of there experiences using squeegees.
But seems strange no one really knows how to fix the problems.
RSI Cramping and be used people that have restrictive movement, Arthritis in there hands, finger, wrists, forearms etc.
All of these I personally have had, using other squeegees.
Over 16 years trial and error numerous different versions of squeegee movements, handles, ,quick lock connections plus other gadgets on it.

So this is the end result is now have none of these problems.
Using this squeegee a big plus is that you can use it anyway suits you.

Also regarding the patent we have on it, addresses all three.

1.   Novelty
2.   Inventive
3.   Industrial Applicability.

Did you actually read any reply’s ? No one has problems with squeegees because we don’t use them   
We are water fed pole window cleaners

[H MAN]

Ok everyone has negatives of there experiences using squeegees.
But seems strange no one really knows how to fix the problems.
RSI Cramping and be used people that have restrictive movement, Arthritis in there hands, finger, wrists, forearms etc.
All of these I personally have had, using other squeegees.
Over 16 years trial and error numerous different versions of squeegee movements, handles, ,quick lock connections plus other gadgets on it.

So this is the end result is now have none of these problems.
Using this squeegee a big plus is that you can use it anyway suits you.

Also regarding the patent we have on it, addresses all three.

1.   Novelty
2.   Inventive
3.   Industrial Applicability.

Did you actually read any reply’s ? No one has problems with squeegees because we don’t use them   
We are water fed pole window cleaners

So how would they clean inside windows?
WFP?

[zesty]

Ok everyone has negatives of there experiences using squeegees.
But seems strange no one really knows how to fix the problems.
RSI Cramping and be used people that have restrictive movement, Arthritis in there hands, finger, wrists, forearms etc.
All of these I personally have had, using other squeegees.
Over 16 years trial and error numerous different versions of squeegee movements, handles, ,quick lock connections plus other gadgets on it.

So this is the end result is now have none of these problems.
Using this squeegee a big plus is that you can use it anyway suits you.

Also regarding the patent we have on it, addresses all three.

1.   Novelty
2.   Inventive
3.   Industrial Applicability.

Did you actually read any reply’s ? No one has problems with squeegees because we don’t use them   
We are water fed pole window cleaners

So how would they clean inside windows?
WFP?

You wouldn’t get RSI from doing the odd inside job H man, remember here in the uk we rarely do the insides of people homes, it’s once a week or so.

[Shrek]

Ok everyone has negatives of there experiences using squeegees.
But seems strange no one really knows how to fix the problems.
RSI Cramping and be used people that have restrictive movement, Arthritis in there hands, finger, wrists, forearms etc.
All of these I personally have had, using other squeegees.
Over 16 years trial and error numerous different versions of squeegee movements, handles, ,quick lock connections plus other gadgets on it.

So this is the end result is now have none of these problems.
Using this squeegee a big plus is that you can use it anyway suits you.

Also regarding the patent we have on it, addresses all three.

1.   Novelty
2.   Inventive
3.   Industrial Applicability.

Did you actually read any reply’s ? No one has problems with squeegees because we don’t use them   
We are water fed pole window cleaners

So how would they clean inside windows?
WFP?

We leave the insides for the customers to do themselves

[Smudger]

It’s all very well inventing a product, but you need to stand back and look impartially at the overall situation and see if financially it’s viable - which I doubt

If you can’t get a major player like unger to look at and produce this then I doubt there is no market for it

Why don’t you approach the fwc with several of these for them to trial and maybe put an article in their magazine ?

This forum, although it’s for cleaners is quite limited - I bet you haven’t sought out any trad guys and offered your product to them

Darran

[dazmond]

if your predispositioned to get arthritis you ll get it anyway regardless or whether your trad or WFP....

how old are you anyway mate? in your 70s?....your bound to have a few aches and pains by now!we all will if we re lucky enough to live until your age.......

[H MAN]

Ever head the saying work smarter not harder.
Hear many people complain that have restrictive movement, Arthritis in there hands, finger, wrists, forearms etc.
Many different ages from beginner though to my age or more!!
So this was designed to help them to do it the smarter way.
Don't worry your turn will come in time. 

[Johnny B]

I am 100% trad, 56 years old now and still use a squeegee I bought when I started 21 years ago (albeit more recently dog-eared for less detailing).

I would probably be in your target market to buy your latest product, but I have reached the stage now when I would struggle to improve on my squeegeing technique, or find a product which will make life easier than it already is. For example I have been considering replacing my current range of squeegees with the Unger S-plus range, but as I get excellent results already with what I have, then why would I need to change? The same principle applies to your new product. I don't wish to knock you in any way, but I probably speak for many other trad window cleaners who have perfected their techniques or who are considering changing over to wfp.

That said, I admire your enginuity and I genuinely hope you can get this off the ground.

There are still many trad window cleaners here in Ireland. Could you perhaps explore its viability to produce/sell it here, or maybe try further afield?

Best wishes,
John