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dazmond

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Re: Watch out Mick kent is back and gonna be smashing it.
« Reply #40 on: November 01, 2018, 04:08:01 pm »
weight training and playing drums in a band is good for a low mood too!(but not at the same time!) ;D ;D ;D
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G & M

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Re: Watch out Mick kent is back and gonna be smashing it.
« Reply #41 on: November 01, 2018, 08:11:49 pm »
All the best Mick, can also relate as my wife suffers badly from severe depression and sadly my 17 Yr old daughter living with her mum is on suicide watch, for last couple of weeks.

Glad your coming through it strong and refocused. Hope it goes well for ya

Really sorry to read this Nathankaye, you must be very worried about her and terrible for your daughter to deal with.
Best of luck to you your family  and to Mick and his.

nathankaye

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Re: Watch out Mick kent is back and gonna be smashing it.
« Reply #42 on: November 01, 2018, 08:21:07 pm »
All the best Mick, can also relate as my wife suffers badly from severe depression and sadly my 17 Yr old daughter living with her mum is on suicide watch, for last couple of weeks.

Glad your coming through it strong and refocused. Hope it goes well for ya

Really sorry to read this Nathankaye, you must be very worried about her and terrible for your daughter to deal with.
Best of luck to you your family  and to Mick and his.

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windowswashed

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Re: Watch out Mick kent is back and gonna be smashing it.
« Reply #43 on: November 01, 2018, 10:09:08 pm »
Depression is a hidden illness that is horrible. Build up a good round and remember to take time out for yourself when you need to. Don't overdo it and keep it constant. If it helps then phone 70 percent of your customers the evening before so you have a commitment to go out and window clean as others will be expecting you to turn up. That allows yourself some free time to be late turning up for work if need be but keep your work constant, regular and be reliable to your customers. Don't fall in the trap of taking days off 'cause you can't be bothered because depression with the voices are playing havoc on your mind. Make planned time out for breaks, holidays, days of leisure and stick to them. Exercise is good for fighting depression and being outdoors helps us well. Good luck  :)

Slacky

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Re: Watch out Mick kent is back and gonna be smashing it.
« Reply #44 on: November 01, 2018, 11:05:57 pm »
A few things that have helped me could perhaps interest you ,  yoga from you tube videos mainly, headspace (a meditation app) supplementing vitamin d and the b vitamins , also I found a lot of help researching the mutation of the Mtfr gene

I have to say the headspace app is probably the best app I have.

I meditate at least 20 minutes now every morning and am beginning to introduce mindfulness more fully in to my daily life. I absolutely love the meditation, I’m beginning to find a place inside myself I never knew existed that can bring some relative peace and a real sense of calm. Thank heavens for Andy Puddicombe.

His book on his life as a monk and how he escaped from one monastry dressed in his monks robes by jumping over a 12’ wall and how the headspace app came in to being is also worth spending a few bob on.

Dave Willis

Re: Watch out Mick kent is back and gonna be smashing it.
« Reply #45 on: November 02, 2018, 07:25:47 am »
To the numpty who broke in and nicked my antidepressants.......... I hope you’re happy now!!

Dave Willis

Re: Watch out Mick kent is back and gonna be smashing it.
« Reply #46 on: November 02, 2018, 07:33:31 am »
Depression seems to be the curse of the windowcleaner. Maybe it’s because we work alone? I get bad weeks and there’s not much I can do except ride it out. Excersise helps a bit, staying off here and away from crap tv too. Took meds for a while which helps to get back into a normal sleep pattern. These days money means very little to me, the bragging posts go over my head, I couldn’t give a toss what car you drive, your hobbies, or what your girlfriend looks like. .          I also have every sympathy for people who commit suicide, it’s not cowardice or selfishness as most think. Untill it happens to you, you’ll never understand.

Shrek

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Re: Watch out Mick kent is back and gonna be smashing it.
« Reply #47 on: November 02, 2018, 07:36:16 am »
Depression seems to be the curse of the windowcleaner. Maybe it’s because we work alone? I get bad weeks and there’s not much I can do except ride it out. Excersise helps a bit, staying off here and away from crap tv too. Took meds for a while which helps to get back into a normal sleep pattern. These days money means very little to me, the bragging posts go over my head, I couldn’t give a toss what car you drive, your hobbies, or what your girlfriend looks like. 👍

Just to let you know, my profile pic is my Mrs 👍

paul alan

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Re: Watch out Mick kent is back and gonna be smashing it.
« Reply #48 on: November 02, 2018, 08:07:25 am »
A few things that have helped me could perhaps interest you ,  yoga from you tube videos mainly, headspace (a meditation app) supplementing vitamin d and the b vitamins , also I found a lot of help researching the mutation of the Mtfr gene

I have to say the headspace app is probably the best app I have.

I meditate at least 20 minutes now every morning and am beginning to introduce mindfulness more fully in to my daily life. I absolutely love the meditation, I’m beginning to find a place inside myself I never knew existed that can bring some relative peace and a real sense of calm. Thank heavens for Andy Puddicombe.

His book on his life as a monk and how he escaped from one monastry dressed in his monks robes by jumping over a 12’ wall and how the headspace app came in to being is also worth spending a few bob on.

Totally agree.

I'm coming to the end of my second year with headspace, I couldn't recommend it enough, the benefits you get for 30 minutes a day are great. Even if you only start with 5 minutes, the sense of calm and wellbeing will have you wanting more.

Slacky

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Re: Watch out Mick kent is back and gonna be smashing it.
« Reply #49 on: November 02, 2018, 08:07:43 am »
I couldn’t give a toss what car you drive, your hobbies, or what your girlfriend looks like.

Exactly.

Once consumerism has played its part in your life and temporarily made you feel good about yourself your on your own once more.

Shrek

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Re: Watch out Mick kent is back and gonna be smashing it.
« Reply #50 on: November 02, 2018, 08:13:23 am »
I think losing customers and dealing with messers , messes with your head. Makes you doubt yourself , every time I lose a customer or deal with a messer , I clean my windows and go round inspecting every one of them looking for something Iv done wrong

paul alan

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Re: Watch out Mick kent is back and gonna be smashing it.
« Reply #51 on: November 02, 2018, 08:25:52 am »
I think losing customers and dealing with messers , messes with your head. Makes you doubt yourself , every time I lose a customer or deal with a messer , I clean my windows and go round inspecting every one of them looking for something Iv done wrong

Nothing slows my work speed down like finding a couple of spots.

dazmond

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Re: Watch out Mick kent is back and gonna be smashing it.
« Reply #52 on: November 02, 2018, 08:43:08 am »
I think losing customers and dealing with messers , messes with your head. Makes you doubt yourself , every time I lose a customer or deal with a messer , I clean my windows and go round inspecting every one of them looking for something Iv done wrong

i really dont care.....i just move on to my next job and dont give it a second thought.....give it a try mate!
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Michael Peterson

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Re: Watch out Mick kent is back and gonna be smashing it.
« Reply #53 on: November 03, 2018, 07:49:18 am »
And to cause an argument ...... cbd works very well

John Mart

Re: Watch out Mick kent is back and gonna be smashing it.
« Reply #54 on: November 03, 2018, 08:38:29 am »
I think losing customers and dealing with messers , messes with your head. Makes you doubt yourself , every time I lose a customer or deal with a messer , I clean my windows and go round inspecting every one of them looking for something Iv done wrong
You’re not alone in this. It’s very hard not to take it personally. I still do even though I’m not the one doing the cleaning any more.

Stoots

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Re: Watch out Mick kent is back and gonna be smashing it.
« Reply #55 on: November 03, 2018, 09:15:22 am »
As someone who has suffered depression and anxiety most of their adult life. What I can say is it never truly goes away it's always there ready to bit but as the years go by you get better at dealing with it.

The best way I've found to deal with it is when you feel the negative thoughts are low mood coming to not feed into it. Do not do what I always did and re affirm to myself how crap the world is, how crap my life is and how bad I feel. Do not try to help it grow by getting dragged in. Also do not try to pretend it isn't there and force yourself to smile etc, denying it's there and trying to fake being happy doesn't work.

Now what has worked for me is a meditation technique where you become the watcher. It takes a while to get any good at and at first you won't be able to do it, but as the thoughts and feeling occur just be calm and watch them as though you are a third party and not the one feeling the sensations . Just look and observe and think ok these negative thoughts and low mood are coming but don't feed into them. It's almost as if you step out of your body and become an observer.

You can do this with any situation in life btw. Imagine a heated argument, you are literally wrapped up in the storm of your thoughts, Feelings etc and that argument and anger in the moment is the only thing that matters in the world. It's the same with depression it takes over everything and consumes you.  Try to be present, take a breath and watch as though the argument or the thing whatever it maybe you are an observer, it's happening but you feel nothing because you don't allow it to take over you.

Anyway lol, the other thing that really helps me is regular exercise. If I don't exercise I can few the tension and negative energy increase in my body.

Remember the opposite of depression is expression.

To depress you go inwards, energy goes internal and is bottled up.

When you express energy goes outwards, is realised, just like hard exercise or even screaming or shouting, or crying...of anyone has ever been so bad they scream or cry until they have nothing left then they will afterwards fell better...that because of expression.

Try it chaps, meditate, be present become the watcher and express in whatever form you choose.

If you've never been afflicted with depression you will now be thinking what an absolute loon.

If you know what it's like to cry like a baby as a grown man for no apparent reason you might understand.

Mick or anyone else who is suffering, please look into meditation.

This is one of my favourite explanations

https://youtu.be/sT-VLNrk-F8

If you've never heard of Alan Watts look it up on your tube, his thoughts and theorys on the world were  genius.






cleaniac

Re: Watch out Mick kent is back and gonna be smashing it.
« Reply #56 on: November 03, 2018, 09:26:36 am »
Adam that is a lovely insightful post.

Its so true, it never really leaves you.

Who did your website? its much better than the last one.

Missing Link

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Re: Watch out Mick kent is back and gonna be smashing it.
« Reply #57 on: November 04, 2018, 05:41:40 pm »
If you've never heard of Alan Watts look it up on your tube, his thoughts and theorys on the world were  genius.

Alan Watts is class.  I've listened to all the stuff on him I could've when I went through an Alan Watts phase.

You know he was an alkie?  Failed marriages and neglected kids all over the place, and he died relatively young.

I'm not knocking the guy; he never claimed to be anything special; he said he was a 'spiritual entertainer' and he's just that.
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Stoots

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Re: Watch out Mick kent is back and gonna be smashing it.
« Reply #58 on: November 04, 2018, 06:11:24 pm »
If you've never heard of Alan Watts look it up on your tube, his thoughts and theorys on the world were  genius.

Alan Watts is class.  I've listened to all the stuff on him I could've when I went through an Alan Watts phase.

You know he was an alkie?  Failed marriages and neglected kids all over the place, and he died relatively young.

I'm not knocking the guy; he never claimed to be anything special; he said he was a 'spiritual entertainer' and he's just that.

Yeh i think alcohol killed him or contributed to his death

Also was a bit of a hippy by all accounts, LSD and magic mushrooms etc but apparently this gave him some great insights into the mind and spirituality etc...

Yeh i went through a phase of listening to stuff like this,  another guy i like is eckhart tolle.

Missing Link

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Re: Watch out Mick kent is back and gonna be smashing it.
« Reply #59 on: November 04, 2018, 06:30:06 pm »
Yeh i went through a phase of listening to stuff like this,  another guy i like is eckhart tolle.

Eckhart Tolle is a weird one.  He had some 'spiritual experience' when in mental pain and seemingly became enlightened over night.

After sitting on parkbenches for a year (or two?) he decides to go on a spiritual journey and he ends up teaching what Buddhists call Mindfulness.

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