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harleyman

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another canvassing question
« on: October 27, 2018, 08:03:16 am »
I have been meaning to go out on a Saturday canvassing for the last few weeks but something always cropped up, but this Saturday I am free so  I am off out for a few hours ,my question is do any of you guys go out this late in the year if so do you think it would be as  productive  than the summer??????  I will give  a up date to see how I got on .

paul alan

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Re: another canvassing question
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2018, 08:40:46 am »
You can pick up quality custom this time of year. I have always picked up custom year round.

dazmond

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Re: another canvassing question
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2018, 08:58:05 am »
I have been meaning to go out on a Saturday canvassing for the last few weeks but something always cropped up, but this Saturday I am free so  I am off out for a few hours ,my question is do any of you guys go out this late in the year if so do you think it would be as  productive  than the summer??????  I will give  a up date to see how I got on .

just go out and knock....whats the alternative?signing on?if you really need the work you ll find it eventually......

persistence and tenacity will see you reach your goals......
price higher/work harder!

dazmond

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Re: another canvassing question
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2018, 09:03:45 am »
i went canvassing in early january 1993 (straight after new year!)and it was snowing!i got 3 customers!i was well happy!i now have 80+ jobs on this particular estate 25 years later.......

ive canvassed sat/sun/mon/tues/wed/thurs/fri,mornings/afternoons and evenings,spring/summer/autumn/winter....

DONT THINK!JUST DO!
price higher/work harder!

John Mart

Re: another canvassing question
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2018, 09:48:27 am »
I have been meaning to go out on a Saturday canvassing for the last few weeks but something always cropped up, but this Saturday I am free so  I am off out for a few hours ,my question is do any of you guys go out this late in the year if so do you think it would be as  productive  than the summer??????  I will give  a up date to see how I got on .

just go out and knock....whats the alternative?signing on?if you really need the work you ll find it eventually......

persistence and tenacity will see you reach your goals......
Getting a job is an alternative.

Shrek

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Re: another canvassing question
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2018, 11:09:41 am »
I have been meaning to go out on a Saturday canvassing for the last few weeks but something always cropped up, but this Saturday I am free so  I am off out for a few hours ,my question is do any of you guys go out this late in the year if so do you think it would be as  productive  than the summer??????  I will give  a up date to see how I got on .

just go out and knock....whats the alternative?signing on?if you really need the work you ll find it eventually......

persistence and tenacity will see you reach your goals......
Getting a job is an alternative.

I hear Aldi are taking on - paying between £10-14 an hour

harleyman

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Re: another canvassing question
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2018, 12:20:43 pm »
why dont you get your self down do your self a favour

Crystal-clear

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Re: another canvassing question
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2018, 01:56:46 pm »
Hey mate it's fine canvassing this time of year.
If you're new the first couple of hours can be a bit annoying but once you get in your stride will be fine

Smudger

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Re: another canvassing question
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2018, 02:43:29 pm »
Canvass all year round - my best customers have originated from this time of year as they aren’t summer brigade

My concern for you is the intention to canvass but “something” always crops up - I’m not sure you have the desire to make it work if at this early stage you are happy to canvassing on the back burner

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Shrek

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Re: another canvassing question
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2018, 03:12:15 pm »
why dont you get your self down do your self a favour

See you there

Stoots

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Re: another canvassing question
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2018, 03:17:03 pm »
Canvass all year round - my best customers have originated from this time of year as they aren’t summer brigade

My concern for you is the intention to canvass but “something” always crops up - I’m not sure you have the desire to make it work if at this early stage you are happy to canvassing on the back burner

Darran

That's a great point. I think a lot of us have good intentions but something always "crops up".

In the early day I did a bit of canvassing and leafletting but i spent a lot of time thinking about doing it and not much action.

In the end I was honest with myself and realised I just don't want to do it.

So now I just pay others to do what I don't want to do Instead of beating myself up over not following through.


Walter Mitty

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Re: another canvassing question
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2018, 04:30:50 pm »
I've been canvassing this past couple of weeks and picked up a small number of customers.  I like picking them up this time of year because it's a pretty reasonable bet they won't regard window cleaning as seasonal.
Now that it will be getting dark earlier, I will knock some afternoons if I finish early and some Sundays.  So long as I get an extra £30-£60 worth of work for the following week (or even for a few weeks time) that's fine.  I even picked up a couple of jobs where there was scaffolding, though not to be cleaned until my next time around in about six weeks.  Just shows that it pays to knock at such houses.

Smudger

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Re: another canvassing question
« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2018, 07:53:11 pm »
Canvass all year round - my best customers have originated from this time of year as they aren’t summer brigade

My concern for you is the intention to canvass but “something” always crops up - I’m not sure you have the desire to make it work if at this early stage you are happy to canvassing on the back burner

Darran

That's a great point. I think a lot of us have good intentions but something always "crops up".

In the early day I did a bit of canvassing and leafletting but i spent a lot of time thinking about doing it and not much action.

In the end I was honest with myself and realised I just don't want to do it.

So now I just pay others to do what I don't want to do Instead of beating myself up over not following through.

Not to run anyone down, its a horrible thing to canvass ( unless your gifted at it ) and when I started out I did it every day including weekends the only thing to stop me was heavy rain - It was/is for me the most uncomfortable experience but it was that or go look for a paye job, or even worse just scratch a living without moving forward.

over the years we have had several people go on canvass campaigns only to see them after a week make excuses why they didn't get out to actually do it then they seem to wither and die - thats a shame because a window cleaning business brings in a great income no matter your background or education

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

paul alan

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Re: another canvassing question
« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2018, 07:56:18 pm »
Canvass all year round - my best customers have originated from this time of year as they aren’t summer brigade

My concern for you is the intention to canvass but “something” always crops up - I’m not sure you have the desire to make it work if at this early stage you are happy to canvassing on the back burner

Darran

That's a great point. I think a lot of us have good intentions but something always "crops up".

In the early day I did a bit of canvassing and leafletting but i spent a lot of time thinking about doing it and not much action.

In the end I was honest with myself and realised I just don't want to do it.

So now I just pay others to do what I don't want to do Instead of beating myself up over not following through.

Not to run anyone down, its a horrible thing to canvass ( unless your gifted at it ) and when I started out I did it every day including weekends the only thing to stop me was heavy rain - It was/is for me the most uncomfortable experience but it was that or go look for a paye job, or even worse just scratch a living without moving forward.

over the years we have had several people go on canvass campaigns only to see them after a week make excuses why they didn't get out to actually do it then they seem to wither and die - thats a shame because a window cleaning business brings in a great income no matter your background or education

Darran

I think thats the key! Having the ability to make yourself do that which needs doing, whether you feel like it or not.

Johnny B

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Re: another canvassing question
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2018, 08:22:15 pm »
When I started out I canvassed myself. I like interacting with people so I have no problem with knocking on doors and meeting strangers. I am not pushy either so there was very little chance of upsetting anyone because of my laid back approach.

I have never used a canvasser, neither would I, because I wanted to meet my potential customers face to face so I knew who I would be dealing with, and they me.

I no longer canvass as I have enough work without needing to, plus I get a steady flow of new work from recommendations and walkups.

John
Being diplomatic is being able to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip.

Walter Mitty

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Re: another canvassing question
« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2018, 04:29:22 pm »
Canvass all year round - my best customers have originated from this time of year as they aren’t summer brigade

My concern for you is the intention to canvass but “something” always crops up - I’m not sure you have the desire to make it work if at this early stage you are happy to canvassing on the back burner

Darran

That's a great point. I think a lot of us have good intentions but something always "crops up".

In the early day I did a bit of canvassing and leafletting but i spent a lot of time thinking about doing it and not much action.

In the end I was honest with myself and realised I just don't want to do it.

So now I just pay others to do what I don't want to do Instead of beating myself up over not following through.

over the years we have had several people go on canvass campaigns only to see them after a week make excuses why they didn't get out to actually do it then they seem to wither and die -


Today I withered, but I didn't die.  I have a streaming cold so didn't get out today.  It's irritating because I was on a roll.  It would be daft damaging my health though.  Apart from that, it would leave a bad impression sneezing all over potential customers.
Wrap up well and work tomorrow.  Canvass again in a few days.  The cold is past its peak.

dazmond

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Re: another canvassing question
« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2018, 05:14:12 pm »
Canvass all year round - my best customers have originated from this time of year as they aren’t summer brigade

My concern for you is the intention to canvass but “something” always crops up - I’m not sure you have the desire to make it work if at this early stage you are happy to canvassing on the back burner

Darran

That's a great point. I think a lot of us have good intentions but something always "crops up".

In the early day I did a bit of canvassing and leafletting but i spent a lot of time thinking about doing it and not much action.

In the end I was honest with myself and realised I just don't want to do it.

So now I just pay others to do what I don't want to do Instead of beating myself up over not following through.

over the years we have had several people go on canvass campaigns only to see them after a week make excuses why they didn't get out to actually do it then they seem to wither and die -


Today I withered, but I didn't die.  I have a streaming cold so didn't get out today.  It's irritating because I was on a roll.  It would be daft damaging my health though.  Apart from that, it would leave a bad impression sneezing all over potential customers.
Wrap up well and work tomorrow.  Canvass again in a few days.  The cold is past its peak.

I don't understand Paul that you need to canvass for new work?.....you 've been going longer than me I think mate(1991 to my 1993).....id thought youd be well established by now....

I've never canvassed for many years now(apart from the odd few houses here and there usually ones I used to clean for the previous owners)....
price higher/work harder!

Walter Mitty

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Re: another canvassing question
« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2018, 05:45:44 pm »
Canvass all year round - my best customers have originated from this time of year as they aren’t summer brigade

My concern for you is the intention to canvass but “something” always crops up - I’m not sure you have the desire to make it work if at this early stage you are happy to canvassing on the back burner

Darran

That's a great point. I think a lot of us have good intentions but something always "crops up".

In the early day I did a bit of canvassing and leafletting but i spent a lot of time thinking about doing it and not much action.

In the end I was honest with myself and realised I just don't want to do it.

So now I just pay others to do what I don't want to do Instead of beating myself up over not following through.

over the years we have had several people go on canvass campaigns only to see them after a week make excuses why they didn't get out to actually do it then they seem to wither and die -


Today I withered, but I didn't die.  I have a streaming cold so didn't get out today.  It's irritating because I was on a roll.  It would be daft damaging my health though.  Apart from that, it would leave a bad impression sneezing all over potential customers.
Wrap up well and work tomorrow.  Canvass again in a few days.  The cold is past its peak.

I don't understand Paul that you need to canvass for new work?.....you 've been going longer than me I think mate(1991 to my 1993).....id thought youd be well established by now....

I've never canvassed for many years now(apart from the odd few houses here and there usually ones I used to clean for the previous owners)....

It's a combination of circumstances that go back some way.
I had a full round (from a ladder) when I switched to WFP in 2005.  As you know, WFP goes through the work much faster so I had a round with big gaps in once I got used to it.  Instead of canvassing I took on a load of subcontract commercial work for some years.  It didn't end well as three of the four (large) sources stopped in quick succession - one of them even done me out of a chunk of money.

At that time, residential work was trickling in much faster than I was losing it so I figured all would be well.  In the past couple of years though, a number of long-standing customers have died or moved away and it's left gaps again.

It's also fair to say that I wasn't well for a while; things went wrong in my life (people dying etc.) and it hit me hard.  Motivation took a nosedive.  A couple of years ago or so I was even offered a bed in a psych place but soldiered on and went for outpatient counselling instead.  It helped a lot.

Unfortunately my weight ballooned and I wasn't confident that I could handle a higher workload anyway.
But hey, it could have been worse.  At least I didn't pick up a drink or get stoned - it was 32 years recently (I actually forgot my sobriety birthday earlier this month)  :) .

I've emerged from the other side a far stronger person than I went in.  Recently I was told that I'm pre-diabetic.  My response has been to lose three and a half stone since the start of June.  A couple of years back they also told me that I had a "very minor" issue with a heart valve.

Now that I've shed weight (and there's more to follow), I find that I'm getting through my work far more quickly without suffering unduly.  The aches and pains I put down to getting older were there because I was so badly overweight.  I feel better than I've felt in years (apart from this streaming cold :) ) , and feel motivated to earn more money and pay some things off.

It feels as though my life starts here.  Now.
I've set myself a stiff earnings target up to August 2020.  I may reach it, I may not.  But if I come close that will still be some achievement.
A couple of years back I was on the floor.  I guess I should be able to handle bereavement better, but I didn't.  I accept that now.  Time to move on.
The reality of it is that I've never had a completely full round in my own right since a few months after switching to WFP.  I've had a full workload when topping it up with subcontracted commercials, but never in my own right.
That is now going to change.

dazmond

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Re: another canvassing question
« Reply #18 on: October 29, 2018, 08:10:06 am »
thanks for the in depth reply paul........i think you re a bit older than me(im 47 now)...none of us know whats round the corner in life.i wish you all the best mate.

also this should be a warning to sole trader window cleaners taking on commercial sub contract work...ive never seen the appeal myself....my grandad always told me "dont keep all your eggs in one basket".....i much prefer getting more work for myself and keeping lots of individual accounts that dont hurt too much if i lose the odd one or two for whatever reason.....
price higher/work harder!

dazmond

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Re: another canvassing question
« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2018, 08:16:35 am »
i had a 5 year plan to turn around my own business a few years ago and i exceeded my earnings goal after the 5 years expired....ive been resting on my laurels for the last year or two as im happy with my income and workload.....

BUT its not good to stand still in business so ill be pushing on a bit next year myself(mainly price rises in april)........
price higher/work harder!