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Notice you forgot a photo of the pink van and trailer 

Who was the guy on the west coast (Bristol?) side of the country who towed a trailer kitted out with a system with an ATV? He then towed it with a Fiat 500. He just seemed to stop posting one day.

He also had a gas water heater and also had a gas cooker so he could cook his breakfast and make a cup of coffee whilst working.

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Dont know what you're on about ?
 

[jonboywalton75]

ill see if i can upload some of my other set ups from years ago that were fully DIY.....

Thanks Daz, you've had a few tidy DIY setups in your time😁😁😁😁

[jonboywalton75]

Sorry to have hit a raw nerve and  caused this posting frenzy Daz, probably given Josh a few ideas though.

Just wondering if you've got any gift vouchers available for a tour or your 'Gardiners Brush Evolution Exhibition' that you started in about 2009
Must be bigger than the British Museum 😜😜😜

[dazmond]

Sorry to have hit a raw nerve and  caused this posting frenzy Daz, probably given Josh a few ideas though.

Just wondering if you've got any gift vouchers available for a tour or your 'Gardiners Brush Evolution Exhibition' that you started in about 2009
Must be bigger than the British Museum 😜😜😜

most of them ive binned now....a lot were sent to me for free to trial out....i only stick to extreme and ultimate brushes now even though they dont last very long....every other brush seems too heavy on the end of xtreme poles.....

[Pete Thompson]

This thread, and some of the pictures here, would convince me that DIY is definitely NOT the thing to do.  What a shabby mess.

eg that pic with the 1,000 Litre IBC sitting in the back.

DEATH TRAP

That is all.

[Richard Groves]

Shabby mess or not. As long as its safe that's all that matters. Anything else is just glitter........
........ The only people who are going to be impressed by a fancy  pro system are other window cleaners.

[jonboywalton75]

Shabby mess or not. As long as its safe that's all that matters. Anything else is just glitter........
........ The only people who are going to be impressed by a fancy  pro system are other window cleaners.

Agreed

[P @ F]

This thread, and some of the pictures here, would convince me that DIY is definitely NOT the thing to do.  What a shabby mess.

eg that pic with the 1,000 Litre IBC sitting in the back.

DEATH TRAP

That is all.
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Here we go again 🤮

[Smudger]

This thread, and some of the pictures here, would convince me that DIY is definitely NOT the thing to do.  What a shabby mess.

eg that pic with the 1,000 Litre IBC sitting in the back.

DEATH TRAP

That is all.
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Here we go again 🤮

Everyone can have their opinion, some want to spend thousands on a “professional “ system, which in effect is just parts sourced off the net - just like we do - they just charge for the privilege

Darran

[alank]

Nothing wrong with diy you get the system the way you want to suit how you work

[dazmond]

This thread, and some of the pictures here, would convince me that DIY is definitely NOT the thing to do.  What a shabby mess.

eg that pic with the 1,000 Litre IBC sitting in the back.

DEATH TRAP

That is all.

ive seen worse than that!A pressure washing guy i met once had a 1000L IBC on a wooden pallet in the back of his fancy VW transporter strapped down by the flimsiest bits of string tied to the eyelets on his van floor....

[dazmond]

Shabby mess or not. As long as its safe that's all that matters. Anything else is just glitter........
........ The only people who are going to be impressed by a fancy  pro system are other window cleaners.

its nothing to do with impressing other window cleaners...its just generally less hassle with a pro system esp if you want hot water on tap every day and frost protection......

[Richard Groves]

Shabby mess or not. As long as its safe that's all that matters. Anything else is just glitter........
........ The only people who are going to be impressed by a fancy  pro system are other window cleaners.

its nothing to do with impressing other window cleaners...its just generally less hassle with a pro system esp if you want hot water on tap every day and frost protection......

No. You've missed my point.  Nobody cares what the inside of your van looks like ( apart from yourself ) certainly your customers  do not and if anybody was to go  " woooo that's a really smart set up ! " they would be other window cleaners or ciu forum members. I'm not having a dig at people who want  a pro fitted job, I'm disagreeing with  diy looking shabby. If its safe and it works, then it doesn't matter.

[dazmond]

Shabby mess or not. As long as its safe that's all that matters. Anything else is just glitter........
........ The only people who are going to be impressed by a fancy  pro system are other window cleaners.

its nothing to do with impressing other window cleaners...its just generally less hassle with a pro system esp if you want hot water on tap every day and frost protection......

No. You've missed my point.  Nobody cares what the inside of your van looks like ( apart from yourself ) certainly your customers  do not and if anybody was to go  " woooo that's a really smart set up ! " they would be other window cleaners or ciu forum members. I'm not having a dig at people who want  a pro fitted job, I'm disagreeing with  diy looking shabby. If its safe and it works, then it doesn't matter.

ironically enough most people that have seen my set up and liked it have NOT been window cleaners but customers!

[Richard Groves]

My customers don't come out to my van to have a nose  and have never shown any interest, nor would I want them to 

[Smudger]

Daz yours is a hybrid system half diy and half “professional “ ie the heater was bolted in by grippa tank the rest by you

I only time customers have looked in the back is to see the pressure washing setup - just because they are nosey f*****s any system that’s neat and tidy will impress, dirty, scruffy vans do not

Darran

[P @ F]

Daz yours is a hybrid system half diy and half “professional “ ie the heater was bolted in by grippa tank the rest by you

I only time customers have looked in the back is to see the pressure washing setup - just because they are nosey f*****s any system that’s neat and tidy will impress, dirty, scruffy vans do not

Darran

Well said , thats it in a nut shell TBH ,

[P @ F]

As Smudger says , its no real relevance what gear stowed does the magic , they dont care .
And to put some evidence to this I can tell you that all my setups have been DIY , at one point i had 2 sparkly vans with nice signage out there , work was flying in and i was doing well , then employee trouble reared its head and I went back to just me  , 1 van which I decided to paint pink 
Present custies didnt really care , but new custies became thin on the ground , I was probably seen as not so professional anymore , since then I have gone back to a nice white van with better signage and things have picked up again , not massively but enough to lose the dross and build a better base .
If I had the wedge to throw at Grippa or Xline I might well do , but it wouldnt get the glass any cleaner would it ??   

[dazmond]

As Smudger says , its no real relevance what gear stowed does the magic , they dont care .
And to put some evidence to this I can tell you that all my setups have been DIY , at one point i had 2 sparkly vans with nice signage out there , work was flying in and i was doing well , then employee trouble reared its head and I went back to just me  , 1 van which I decided to paint pink 
Present custies didnt really care , but new custies became thin on the ground , I was probably seen as not so professional anymore , since then I have gone back to a nice white van with better signage and things have picked up again , not massively but enough to lose the dross and build a better base .
If I had the wedge to throw at Grippa or Xline I might well do , but it wouldnt get the glass any cleaner would it ??

a professional diesel hot water system gets glass/UPVC etc cleaner quicker with as least hassle as possible with frost prevention to boot for the cold winter months....

im not saying its not expensive and a little indulgent......but ive earned the right to a bit of luxury after 25 years of window cleaning!.....it was a 25th anniversary present to myself..

tbh i got sick of DIY and faffing about with older vans every couple of years....plus all the niggles i used to get,leaks,burst hoses,broken gas heaters,changing gas bottles,a little explosion! etc,etc.....

[dazmond]

Daz yours is a hybrid system half diy and half “professional “ ie the heater was bolted in by grippa tank the rest by you

I only time customers have looked in the back is to see the pressure washing setup - just because they are nosey f*****s any system that’s neat and tidy will impress, dirty, scruffy vans do not

Darran

its virtually a full professional install mate.....heater,pump,controller,batteries,b to b  smart charger all wired in and fixed in by grippa..the only thing grippa  didnt do was bolt the tank in!