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herbiefatboy

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leisure battery
« on: October 16, 2018, 05:35:34 pm »
do you need to get a split relay for a leisure battery or can you just keep charging the battery up finding it hard to get someone to do the job thanks.

David Beecroft

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Re: leisure battery
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2018, 05:44:45 pm »
Yes, I charge mine every night with a smart charger. Leave it in situ in the van and run an extension out to it.

David Beecroft

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Re: leisure battery
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2018, 05:46:58 pm »
While we’re on the subject, I’m fitting out another van atm. Halfords has a 115ah leisure battery for £95. Anyone beat this?

Smudger

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Re: leisure battery
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2018, 05:57:35 pm »
You can but run the risk of draining your van battery

You in Norwich? I can give you the number of the auto electrician that does the wiring in my vans

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

herbiefatboy

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Re: leisure battery
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2018, 06:09:58 pm »
that would be great if you could forward his number does any one know a rough cost for the job thanks again

alank

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Re: leisure battery
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2018, 06:35:43 pm »
I bought two of those batteries last week at halfords good price plus 10% off if your in the AA   ;D

alank

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Re: leisure battery
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2018, 06:37:34 pm »
Also got a decent ring battery charger for £75 and reverse camera kit  ;D

Smudger

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Re: leisure battery
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2018, 06:54:51 pm »
He charges around £110 inc vat - that includes all the parts, fuses, and wiring from the van to wherever you want your leisure battery - as I say he’s done 4 now and we have never had any trouble with the electrics

Mark
07787 366977

Say you got the number from darran at Oddbods ( he will charge you double 😂 )

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

dazmond

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Re: leisure battery
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2018, 06:57:10 pm »
do you need to get a split relay for a leisure battery or can you just keep charging the battery up finding it hard to get someone to do the job thanks.

why are you finding it hard to find someone to do the job?any autoelectrician would do it for you....

but yes you can just charge your leisure battery up every night if your just using it for one pump and have no diesel heater and/or electric reel.....
price higher/work harder!

Smudger

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Re: leisure battery
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2018, 06:59:51 pm »
Daz - it’s norfolk mate - they run to a different time zone to the rest of the country 😳

Shops still have half day closing wednesdays - closed all weekend - chip shops closed on Mondays and sundays and evening opening hours are 4.30 to 7 pm

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

herbiefatboy

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Re: leisure battery
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2018, 07:11:14 pm »
cheers smudged thats great mate

herbiefatboy

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Re: leisure battery
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2018, 07:11:43 pm »
sorry smudger

Spruce

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Re: leisure battery
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2018, 08:57:28 pm »
While we’re on the subject, I’m fitting out another van atm. Halfords has a 115ah leisure battery for £95. Anyone beat this?

I don't think I would want that battery when I read the specs.

According to their recent grading listings that they have signed up to (NCC), their £95 (reduced from £105) 115amp leisure battery is only a class C rated. The specs list it's charging cycles as 80.

https://www.halfords.com/camping-leisure/caravan-motorhomes/electrical-power/halfords-leisure-battery-hlb681

Thats a pretty poor show for a window cleaning battery.

I would rather go for a Numax for £5 more and get a battery with a 500 cycle rating. (Numax doesn't apear to have signed up to NCC rating, but I have had very good service from Numax batteries and would recommend them even although Numax won't warranty their batteries when used by window cleaners.)

https://www.tayna.co.uk/leisure-batteries/numax/xv31mf/

I'm glad Halfords have signed up the the NCC rating. Even their class B 100 amp leisure battery doesn't measure up that much better with 200 cycles

https://www.halfords.com/motoring/bulbs-blades-batteries/leisure-batteries/halfords-leisure-battery-hlb700

 Even their top of the range AGM battery doesn't seem to 'cut the mustard.'

https://www.halfords.com/motoring/bulbs-blades-batteries/leisure-batteries/halfords-leisure-battery-hlb800

 

NCC =
https://www.thencc.org.uk/our_schemes/ncc_verified_leisure_battery_scheme.aspx

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Phil J

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Re: leisure battery
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2018, 09:47:44 pm »
Don't think I'll be moving to Norfolk any time soon!

John Mart

Re: leisure battery
« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2018, 05:55:58 am »
While we’re on the subject, I’m fitting out another van atm. Halfords has a 115ah leisure battery for £95. Anyone beat this?

I don't think I would want that battery when I read the specs.

According to their recent grading listings that they have signed up to (NCC), their £95 (reduced from £105) 115amp leisure battery is only a class C rated. The specs list it's charging cycles as 80.

https://www.halfords.com/camping-leisure/caravan-motorhomes/electrical-power/halfords-leisure-battery-hlb681

Thats a pretty poor show for a window cleaning battery.

I would rather go for a Numax for £5 more and get a battery with a 500 cycle rating. (Numax doesn't apear to have signed up to NCC rating, but I have had very good service from Numax batteries and would recommend them even although Numax won't warranty their batteries when used by window cleaners.)

https://www.tayna.co.uk/leisure-batteries/numax/xv31mf/

I'm glad Halfords have signed up the the NCC rating. Even their class B 100 amp leisure battery doesn't measure up that much better with 200 cycles

https://www.halfords.com/motoring/bulbs-blades-batteries/leisure-batteries/halfords-leisure-battery-hlb700

 Even their top of the range AGM battery doesn't seem to 'cut the mustard.'

https://www.halfords.com/motoring/bulbs-blades-batteries/leisure-batteries/halfords-leisure-battery-hlb800

 

NCC =
https://www.thencc.org.uk/our_schemes/ncc_verified_leisure_battery_scheme.aspx
All of the above means zip to me. All I know is that in 7 years of using various batteries without a split relay, Halfords were by far the longest lasting I found. I don’t know if I tried a Numax, but I definitely never went for a cheap one.

Stoots

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Re: leisure battery
« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2018, 07:31:51 am »
Interesting spruce.

I was always under the impression the Halfords ones were made by "forgot" and supposed to be really good.

But doesn't seem to be the case.
I've just taken mine back for a swap as it was knackered after 8 months.

John Mart

Re: leisure battery
« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2018, 07:39:29 am »
Interesting spruce.

I was always under the impression the Halfords ones were made by "forgot" and supposed to be really good.

But doesn't seem to be the case.
I've just taken mine back for a swap as it was knackered after 8 months.
What size did you have? We found with bench charging every day or two the lasted a couple of years. That was the 115(I think).

dazmond

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Re: leisure battery
« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2018, 07:47:20 am »
Interesting spruce.

I was always under the impression the Halfords ones were made by "forgot" and supposed to be really good.

But doesn't seem to be the case.
I've just taken mine back for a swap as it was knackered after 8 months.

how often were you charging your battery?you should charge it  every day IMO esp if your not using a split relay and your using an electric reel as well as powering pumps.

you shouldnt discharge a leisure battery less than 50%(ideally 30%)before charging again....its supposed to keep the batteries in good condition....
price higher/work harder!

dazmond

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Re: leisure battery
« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2018, 07:48:43 am »
Interesting spruce.

I was always under the impression the Halfords ones were made by "forgot" and supposed to be really good.

But doesn't seem to be the case.
I've just taken mine back for a swap as it was knackered after 8 months.

i bet you didnt tell them you were using it for window cleaning though! ;) ;D
price higher/work harder!

Jonny 87

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Re: leisure battery
« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2018, 08:05:44 am »
Just like Ctek chargers, I’ll never go past Yuasa batteries.

My last one lasted 4 years before I sold it.

Ctek charger and yuasa battery...... match made in the skies.  ;D

Like anything good, there not cheap, but you get what you pay for. Don’t get me wrong there not crazy expensive either. Just top end.
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