[Don Kee]

Do you still get this from customers? I’ve been wfp for about 8 years now and still get this from the  odd customer. They usually then go on to say it leaves spots runs etc.

Just once this year.

Most of the window cleaners are van-mounted wfp round my way, apart from a very few, who don't seem to do that much.

So when you getting your van mount?

[dazmond]

i honestly cant remember the last time a customer said that to me...it was years ago now....

when i first switched i lost around 3 or 4 customers who didnt even give me a chance to use WFP......they point blank refused to have them cleaned with the pole....

most window cleaners have WFP near me now....even the stubborn ones......albeit using glassfibre poles,barrels and trolley systems or backpacks ...theyll learn.....eventually.....

But maybe someone’s backpack gives a much better ROI than your all singing dancing , diesel guzzling, ego enhancing  system does 

only someone who uses a backpack for all his work would come out with such nonsense!its far quicker with a hot van mount system.in fact i managed to clean £850 worth of work in 3 days this week so 4 days off...dont go back til next tuesday!just as well as its wet and very windy for the next few days here in the north west!

if i was using a backpack it d take me 5 days!

[John Mart]

i honestly cant remember the last time a customer said that to me...it was years ago now....

when i first switched i lost around 3 or 4 customers who didnt even give me a chance to use WFP......they point blank refused to have them cleaned with the pole....

most window cleaners have WFP near me now....even the stubborn ones......albeit using glassfibre poles,barrels and trolley systems or backpacks ...theyll learn.....eventually.....

But maybe someone’s backpack gives a much better ROI than your all singing dancing , diesel guzzling, ego enhancing  system does 

only someone who uses a backpack for all his work would come out with such nonsense!its far quicker with a hot van mount system.in fact i managed to clean £850 worth of work in 3 days this week so 4 days off...dont go back til next tuesday!just as well as its wet and very windy for the next few days here in the north west!

if i was using a backpack it d take me 5 days!

Well done for taking three days to do what one of my guys (inc me if I'm out) does in two. 

[dazmond]

i honestly cant remember the last time a customer said that to me...it was years ago now....

when i first switched i lost around 3 or 4 customers who didnt even give me a chance to use WFP......they point blank refused to have them cleaned with the pole....

most window cleaners have WFP near me now....even the stubborn ones......albeit using glassfibre poles,barrels and trolley systems or backpacks ...theyll learn.....eventually.....

But maybe someone’s backpack gives a much better ROI than your all singing dancing , diesel guzzling, ego enhancing  system does 

only someone who uses a backpack for all his work would come out with such nonsense!its far quicker with a hot van mount system.in fact i managed to clean £850 worth of work in 3 days this week so 4 days off...dont go back til next tuesday!just as well as its wet and very windy for the next few days here in the north west!

if i was using a backpack it d take me 5 days!

Well done for taking three days to do what one of my guys (inc me if I'm out) does in two. 

i must have lower priced work than you mate.....

[John Mart]

i honestly cant remember the last time a customer said that to me...it was years ago now....

when i first switched i lost around 3 or 4 customers who didnt even give me a chance to use WFP......they point blank refused to have them cleaned with the pole....

most window cleaners have WFP near me now....even the stubborn ones......albeit using glassfibre poles,barrels and trolley systems or backpacks ...theyll learn.....eventually.....

But maybe someone’s backpack gives a much better ROI than your all singing dancing , diesel guzzling, ego enhancing  system does 

only someone who uses a backpack for all his work would come out with such nonsense!its far quicker with a hot van mount system.in fact i managed to clean £850 worth of work in 3 days this week so 4 days off...dont go back til next tuesday!just as well as its wet and very windy for the next few days here in the north west!

if i was using a backpack it d take me 5 days!

Well done for taking three days to do what one of my guys (inc me if I'm out) does in two. 

i must have lower priced work than you mate.....

Just "yanking your chain. " 

[dazmond]

i honestly cant remember the last time a customer said that to me...it was years ago now....

when i first switched i lost around 3 or 4 customers who didnt even give me a chance to use WFP......they point blank refused to have them cleaned with the pole....

most window cleaners have WFP near me now....even the stubborn ones......albeit using glassfibre poles,barrels and trolley systems or backpacks ...theyll learn.....eventually.....

But maybe someone’s backpack gives a much better ROI than your all singing dancing , diesel guzzling, ego enhancing  system does 

its not ego enhancing....if you want the quickest most efficient way of working with as little hassle as possible and a system to last you years and years then you have to pay for it......ive worked with backpacks and barrels,trolleys too....its a crap way to work,ive worked from old vans,ive used gas shower heaters and bottles to heat my water and everything in between......so i know what im talking about......

[james peters]

i honestly cant remember the last time a customer said that to me...it was years ago now....

when i first switched i lost around 3 or 4 customers who didnt even give me a chance to use WFP......they point blank refused to have them cleaned with the pole....

most window cleaners have WFP near me now....even the stubborn ones......albeit using glassfibre poles,barrels and trolley systems or backpacks ...theyll learn.....eventually.....

But maybe someone’s backpack gives a much better ROI than your all singing dancing , diesel guzzling, ego enhancing  system does 

its not ego enhancing....if you want the quickest most efficient way of working with as little hassle as possible and a system to last you years and years then you have to pay for it......ive worked with backpacks and barrels,trolleys too....its a crap way to work,ive worked from old vans,ive used gas shower heaters and bottles to heat my water and everything in between......so i know what im talking about......

I disagree... my daughter works with me.  we can either do a house each, or one does the back and one does the front, we both have a back pack.     I have a transfer pump from the tank to fill them ... it takes seconds....then we are away ... no trailing hose..
then when finished just walk back...job done , no reeling in
I don't have to worry about freezing pumps etc, and on very cold days which are very few , I just fill my tank with hot  pure water.
I have only worked, 17 hours this week, and have taken more than that figure you said.

[tlwcs]

i honestly cant remember the last time a customer said that to me...it was years ago now....

when i first switched i lost around 3 or 4 customers who didnt even give me a chance to use WFP......they point blank refused to have them cleaned with the pole....

most window cleaners have WFP near me now....even the stubborn ones......albeit using glassfibre poles,barrels and trolley systems or backpacks ...theyll learn.....eventually.....

But maybe someone’s backpack gives a much better ROI than your all singing dancing , diesel guzzling, ego enhancing  system does 

its not ego enhancing....if you want the quickest most efficient way of working with as little hassle as possible and a system to last you years and years then you have to pay for it......ive worked with backpacks and barrels,trolleys too....its a crap way to work,ive worked from old vans,ive used gas shower heaters and bottles to heat my water and everything in between......so i know what im talking about......

But your also prone to changing your mind 😁

[Smudger]

Oooo....

Do I hear the flapping of big willies being waved 🤔

Darran

Mod note: Glad you edited that! 

[Don Kee]

Oooo....

Do I eat the flapping of big willies being waved 🤔

Darran

Depends on what floats your boat, I’m not judging.

[dazmond]

on large properties you d be forever filling up with a backpack...its defo NOT the most efficient way of WFP window cleaning IMO.....

[Shrek]

on large properties you d be forever filling up with a backpack...its defo NOT the most efficient way of WFP window cleaning IMO.....

Very true that daz , a lot of my customers live in houses which take 30 minutes upwards. It’s be a PITA with a backpack, plus I’d be very conscious about saving water.
I could get a 3 bed semi out of a backpack , not sure about anything else

[nathankaye]

I have a trolley for those odd moments when its needed, but it fills me with dread to think I considered using a trolley first before changing my mind to go straight to van system. (I listened to some great advice)
Now my friend is wanting to go from trad to wfp but dispite my efforts to put the lad off, he's insisting on using wfp upstairs and trad downstairs

[*Hector*]

Oooo....

Do I eat the flapping of big willies being waved 🤔

Darran

Depends on what floats your boat, I’m not judging.

Let's face it...... you are not in a postion to judge

 

[davids3511]

i honestly cant remember the last time a customer said that to me...it was years ago now....

when i first switched i lost around 3 or 4 customers who didnt even give me a chance to use WFP......they point blank refused to have them cleaned with the pole....

most window cleaners have WFP near me now....even the stubborn ones......albeit using glassfibre poles,barrels and trolley systems or backpacks ...theyll learn.....eventually.....

But maybe someone’s backpack gives a much better ROI than your all singing dancing , diesel guzzling, ego enhancing  system does 

It's doesn't though.  I've experience of both, started in my Rover 45 with a Shurflo backpack and 25ltr barrels. Now have a van, 800ltr system with hot water. I can make literally twice the money with the van and hot water.

[AuRavelling79]

Do you still get this from customers? I’ve been wfp for about 8 years now and still get this from the  odd customer. They usually then go on to say it leaves spots runs etc.

Are you "Oop North?" - above Cheshire but below Scotland?

That's where the last steam engines ran on British Rail ...

 

But according to the history books we had at school, 'oop north' was where steam engines all began.

Nope; the first steam locomotive ran in Methyr Tydfil in 1804 in Wales invented by a Cornishman called Richard Trevithick.

[nathankaye]

Same story with bagpipes isn't it?
Started in Wales and not scotland

Haha nothing to do with window cleaning, but hey ho

[John Mart]

Same story with bagpipes isn't it?
Started in Wales and not scotland

Haha nothing to do with window cleaning, but hey ho

Credit where it’s due though. Scotland gave us the deep fried Mars bar and the Bay City Rollers. 

[Arnold Palmer]

Same story with bagpipes isn't it?
Started in Wales and not scotland

Haha nothing to do with window cleaning, but hey ho

Credit where it’s due though. Scotland gave us the deep fried Mars bar and the Bay City Rollers. 

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artificial diamonds
reaping machine
Bank of England
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Brownian movement
Buicks
chemical bonds
penicillin
the decimal point
documentary films
Encyclopedia Britannica
engineering sciences
fax machines
first cloned mammal
flailing machines
geosciences
golf
historical novels
hypodermic syringes
Kelvin scale
percussion powder
logarithms
Maxwell's equations
marmalade
mackintosh raincoats
macadamized roads
microwave ovens
colloid chemistry
breech-loading rifle
tubular steel
quinine
Sociology
pneumatic tyres
pink bathtubs
hollow pipe drainage
Peter Pan
radar
paleobiology
polarization
cure for scurvy
King Arthur
Halloween
refrigerators
Neptune
bakelite
iron bridges
solitons
the steam engine
telephones
thermos flasks/dewars
the telegraph
television
the stereotype
sulphuric acid
the steam-hammer
cure for insomnia
paraffin
Sherlock Holmes
Toad of Toad Hall
Long John Silver
Jekyll and Hyde
Auld Lang Syne
Whisky
US Navy
Chilean Navy
Economics
Cloud Chamber

[John Mart]

Same story with bagpipes isn't it?
Started in Wales and not scotland

Haha nothing to do with window cleaning, but hey ho

Credit where it’s due though. Scotland gave us the deep fried Mars bar and the Bay City Rollers. 

Don't forget:

adhesive postage stamps
anaesthetics
antisepsis
artificial diamonds
reaping machine
Bank of England
latent heat
Brownian movement
Buicks
chemical bonds
penicillin
the decimal point
documentary films
Encyclopedia Britannica
engineering sciences
fax machines
first cloned mammal
flailing machines
geosciences
golf
historical novels
hypodermic syringes
Kelvin scale
percussion powder
logarithms
Maxwell's equations
marmalade
mackintosh raincoats
macadamized roads
microwave ovens
colloid chemistry
breech-loading rifle
tubular steel
quinine
Sociology
pneumatic tyres
pink bathtubs
hollow pipe drainage
Peter Pan
radar
paleobiology
polarization
cure for scurvy
King Arthur
Halloween
refrigerators
Neptune
bakelite
iron bridges
solitons
the steam engine
telephones
thermos flasks/dewars
the telegraph
television
the stereotype
sulphuric acid
the steam-hammer
cure for insomnia
paraffin
Sherlock Holmes
Toad of Toad Hall
Long John Silver
Jekyll and Hyde
Auld Lang Syne
Whisky
US Navy
Chilean Navy
Economics
Cloud Chamber

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