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jo5hm4n

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Managing Water Bill
« on: October 10, 2018, 12:23:11 pm »
Just had a letter from Water Company at my home address, direct debits are going from £87 to £140.50.  Wasn't expecting that.  Is this normal?  I've always paid about £70-£80 per month.

On a metre at my address.  Just got the 1 van with a 650L Tank.  On average we do 4 1/2 Days per week.  I'd say we probably average 500L per day minimum, not including waste water produced from the RO in my static tank.

Says on my bill that i'm averaging 0.86 Cubic Metres of water per day, which roughly works out at 850L i think.  Wondered what is a reasonable amount to be paying.

Is there any way i can lower this amount, i think i once read that you can get a deduction on water used for sewerage?



The Jester of Wibbly

  • Posts: 2160
Re: Managing Water Bill
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2018, 12:40:36 pm »
Check the metre read is correct.  Happened to me once and it turned out the guy who read the metre made a mistake.
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Shrek

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Re: Managing Water Bill
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2018, 01:37:35 pm »
Can you not put all your water bill through your business?

Stoots

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Re: Managing Water Bill
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2018, 03:31:46 pm »
Mine £120 a month on a meter

Family of 4 and about 700l a day X 4 using an R.O at approx 60/40

Put a separate meter in and out the business useage through your accounts.

Some can get a submeter and a rebate on sewerage rate but it depends on your water board and sewer system. I can't get it

Re: Managing Water Bill
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2018, 03:38:46 pm »
I've just set up a 4040 system and fitted a flow meter from Gardiners, primarily to record when to change the pre filters but will be handy for working out business water use too when my metered bill comes in .

dazmond

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Re: Managing Water Bill
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2018, 03:54:14 pm »
mine works out at around £50 a month(im on  meter DI only).one bed flat and just me.....if your using over twice as much as me(with waste water due to RO)and have a family then id say it was about right £140 a month.....

i use around 1800-2000L a week
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Smudger

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Re: Managing Water Bill
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2018, 03:57:03 pm »
Put in a water meter just in front of your ro system inform the water authorities that all water passing this point does not return to sewer but for window cleaning - you will pay for the water in but not charged for the return to sewer part ( which if you look at the bill is charged slightly more per litre than water coming in ) so you use 1000 litre a day and 750 of that is to the ro you’ll pay in and out for 250 (household use) but only in for the 750 which you then you charge that as an expense on the business

Darran
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Simon Trapani

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Re: Managing Water Bill
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2018, 04:24:12 pm »
The RO waste does return to sewer though unless it's going to a soakaway? Mine goes to sewer. Not that I'm on  a meter...yet.

Stoots

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Re: Managing Water Bill
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2018, 04:55:15 pm »
The RO waste does return to sewer though unless it's going to a soakaway? Mine goes to sewer. Not that I'm on  a meter...yet.

Depends on your sewer system.

Most place have separate drains, one from the washing machine etc which goes to the sewer and one from gutters etc which goes down drain bit does not get treated in sewerage plant.

However some areas like mine have combined sewers which means everything goes to the sewers to be treated. Hence why I can't get a non return to sewer rebate.

Yes in theory you could say you had a soakaway or say your using it in a sprinkler etc but it's a lot of water to soakaway.

Simon Trapani

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Re: Managing Water Bill
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2018, 05:55:22 pm »
Yes I agree. My waste definitely goes to sewer though as we had an extension and I altered the drainage myself once the building inspector had signed it off. I also put all but one of my gutter downpipes to the sewer & patio aco drainage as the soakaways were old, clogged up and the garden was getting a big boggy in winter. I think all new builds gutter downpipes have gone to soakaways for some time. Certainly on extensions. I think it's part of the building regs so that the sewage system can cope in heavy rain.

Go

Re: Managing Water Bill
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2018, 07:56:08 pm »
£1.80 a cube of the hydrant.

dazmond

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Re: Managing Water Bill
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2018, 09:21:58 pm »
£1.80 a cube of the hydrant.

is that even legal?
price higher/work harder!

Jonny Swirljet

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Re: Managing Water Bill
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2018, 07:27:29 am »
When my water meter was fitted i just asked for my water bill to be sent six monthly which is how they read down south. They read the water meter and send me a bill through the post and i pay for what I've used. The new style water meters are read by a man driving past in a van. If you want to double check your meter, turn off your supply in the meter pit and see if you still have water, preferably in the kitchen as this is mains fed. Also check the meter serial number in the corresponding meter pit to see if it tallies to the meter serial number on the water bill.

dazmond

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Re: Managing Water Bill
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2018, 08:33:21 am »
When my water meter was fitted i just asked for my water bill to be sent six monthly which is how they read down south. They read the water meter and send me a bill through the post and i pay for what I've used. The new style water meters are read by a man driving past in a van. If you want to double check your meter, turn off your supply in the meter pit and see if you still have water, preferably in the kitchen as this is mains fed. Also check the meter serial number in the corresponding meter pit to see if it tallies to the meter serial number on the water bill.

they always send a bill 6 monthly dont they?i have a water bill payment card and pay £50 a month on it when i go to the post office to pay other bills so when i get my 6 monthly bill theres usually nothing to pay on it(maybe a £10-£20 thats it)....they also read my meter remotely....

for years though they got my meter mixed up with my neighbours so they were paying for my water!  the flat was empty for long periods(sometimes up to a year)so i had ultra low water bills...i reckon i saved myself £2,000 over a 4 year period!all good things come to an end though and they eventually twigged.....they were very apologetic for the mix up but i didnt have to pay any extra for the years of cheap bills!happy days..... :)
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deeege

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Re: Managing Water Bill
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2018, 03:02:21 pm »
When my water meter was fitted i just asked for my water bill to be sent six monthly which is how they read down south. They read the water meter and send me a bill through the post and i pay for what I've used. The new style water meters are read by a man driving past in a van. If you want to double check your meter, turn off your supply in the meter pit and see if you still have water, preferably in the kitchen as this is mains fed. Also check the meter serial number in the corresponding meter pit to see if it tallies to the meter serial number on the water bill.

they always send a bill 6 monthly dont they?i have a water bill payment card and pay £50 a month on it when i go to the post office to pay other bills so when i get my 6 monthly bill theres usually nothing to pay on it(maybe a £10-£20 thats it)....they also read my meter remotely....

for years though they got my meter mixed up with my neighbours so they were paying for my water!  the flat was empty for long periods(sometimes up to a year)so i had ultra low water bills...i reckon i saved myself £2,000 over a 4 year period!all good things come to an end though and they eventually twigged.....they were very apologetic for the mix up but i didnt have to pay any extra for the years of cheap bills!happy days..... :)

I just get a flat yearly bill (unmetered) which works out at £56 x 12 payments.

Not too bad for a family of 4 + around 4000 litres per week including waste.
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Go

Re: Managing Water Bill
« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2018, 06:34:45 pm »
£1.80 a cube of the hydrant.

is that even legal?

Yup. We do it all the time.
You have to do a test.