[David Beecroft]

Hi Folks, I'm going tomorrow to see a van with the view of buying it. As the title suggests its a Peugeot Expert 1.6, 2010 model, 112k on the clock. £3465 + VAT (hoping to haggle him down to £3k +VAT). I've already had a look at the bodywork, seems sound, the engine doesn't smoke and sounds sweet. Gonna have a drive and get a look underneath. I'm looking to put a 500ltr 2 man system into it.
So I'm looking for your advice please, especially if you've run one of these.
Thanks in advance.

[dazmond]

i wouldnt buy a van with 112,000 miles on it for £4k+.........but good luck with it anyway mate.....

[Smudger]

988 Kg payload - cutting it a bit close for 2 men esp if you want to carry gutter vac and generator  but should be ok other models have 1100 kg payload which would be better

generally good solid vans - nice to drive

buying second hand always has some risk, but if its got FSH - low number of owners and your 'gut' tells you it all feels as it should then go for it

Darran

[dd]

Personally I would only buy the 2.0 version. The 1.6 may be more problematic (e.g turbo) and a bit under powered.

[Bungle]

1.6 fully laden will struggle. I wouldn't pay any more than 3k without VAT. Buy a 2.0.

[David Beecroft]

Thanks guys. 👍

[Shrek]

I do wonder how 500ltrs last 2 guys - is it not better to go for something with a bigger payload and get maybe an 800ltr tank

[Stoots]

I would avoid the 1.6 I'd possible.

I had one, underpowered and unreliable.

I now have the 2.0 version, much better van.

I would also question whether 500l is enough.

I have the lwb version which is 1250 payload.

A 700l tank plus 150l in barrels. This usually lasts us all day have run out before.

[David Beecroft]

I appreciate everyone's input, maybe I will forget this one and hold out for something with a better payload.
Regarding the 500lt 2 man system, I've been running with that for 5 years without a problem, the area I live has soft water and no water meters, so I use Di only and its easy to filter more water from the outside taps of customers

[Dry Clean]

With roughly a 1000kg payload even if you installed a 600ltr tank you would still have around 63 stone to play with so don't worry about payload,
Its true that they wouldn't have the best pulling power which would matter if we were in the delivery business.
Iv had a 1.6 Citroen Dispatch (which is the same van) for over ten years and intend to replace it soon with another as its been a great van, put it this way look at any van  and you will always have somebody tell you that they are unreliable.

[cgh window cleaning]

I have a vauxhall combo LWB 1 ton payload coming up for sale shortly has a 400 gripaatank in it.if your interested send me an email and I can send over the details
info@cghwindowcleaning.co.uk

[jonboywalton75]

I do wonder how 500ltrs last 2 guys - is it not better to go for something with a bigger payload and get maybe an 800ltr tank

I went out on Monday with 650 ltr tank full up, it lasted two men 9 30 till 2 30,drained empty

[duncan h]

I appreciate everyone's input, maybe I will forget this one and hold out for something with a better payload.
Regarding the 500lt 2 man system, I've been running with that for 5 years without a problem, the area I live has soft water and no water meters, so I use Di only and its easy to filter more water from the outside taps of customers

I use 300ltr in 3 to 4 hours on my own

[Pete Thompson]

We have 700 litres and in my opinion that is perfect for a 2-Man team doing either all residential or a mix of residential and commercial.

If you were doing 100% commercial I’d say you’d probably want 800, 900 or even 1,000 litres.

Commercial uses more water because you are window cleaning (and using water) for several hours straight with only the odd break to move position. With residential, you are contanstly stopping and starting to move front to back and from house to house.

[Susan Dean (1stclean)]

its down to the people and how they clean to what size tank you need , i can send  different  guys in the same van , to the same work and they will never use the same amount of water

you just have to find out yourself what your usage is and go from there , it doesn't  matter how much water you use as long as you get good results 

as vin diesel said winning is winning weather by a inch or a mile