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paul alan

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flyer design thoughts please
« on: September 09, 2018, 12:10:22 pm »
What do you think?

Marc Stock

Re: flyer design thoughts please
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2018, 12:44:16 pm »
Its clear and to the point.

I would remove the paragraph at the top bit too wordy.

But even with the paragraph, it will probbably work.


Phil J

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Re: flyer design thoughts please
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2018, 01:27:20 pm »
A little busy, but you should pick some work up if you post enough!

The Jester of Wibbly

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Re: flyer design thoughts please
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2018, 01:44:46 pm »
"Psn wc were established in..." NOT "psn wc we're established in.." as that reads the same as "psn wc we are established in"

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Cookie

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Re: flyer design thoughts please
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2018, 01:59:16 pm »
From a proof reading point of view:

  • Pns window cleaning ltd should be PNS Window Cleaning Ltd
  • we're should be were
  • Txt should be Text
  • Fully clean, on time, every time! - not sure what you mean by "Fully clean"

Also why not include a picture of yourself cleaning or with your van.

Sorry if I'm being a bit picky!

Walter Mitty

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Re: flyer design thoughts please
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2018, 02:30:25 pm »
From a proof reading point of view:

  • Pns window cleaning ltd should be PNS Window Cleaning Ltd
  • we're should be were
  • Txt should be Text
  • Fully clean, on time, every time! - not sure what you mean by "Fully clean"

Also why not include a picture of yourself cleaning or with your van.

Sorry if I'm being a bit picky!

I think you're spot on.  I was going to post similar myself.
Some customers are very fussy about correct wording because they regard incorrect spelling and grammar as a sign of being sloppy in other areas.  I know that's unfair but it's how some people see it.
N.B. I'm not referring to forum posts.  This is about someone's very first sight of your business.

Mike Halliday

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Re: flyer design thoughts please
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2018, 03:46:06 pm »
50% of the available area is not used, if you are going to get a lot printed I would have a professional designer create a full colour  double sided one.

It takes the same amount of time (and cost the same) to deliver a basic leaflet as it does a great one so you might as well give yourself the best chance possible of getting a response .

It’s a myth that you can put too much writing on a leaflet test have shown copy heavy leaflets consistently out perform basic designs , people who want your service will read massive amounts of information and those that are undecided will also want lots of information to convince them to call.

You have a full back side of the leaflet blank, do you offer any other services? Gutter cleaning, conservatory roofs.... etc if not find someone who does and ask them if they want to share a leaflet and go half on the costs

But any leaflet that goes through a houses letterbox is better that a leaflet that stays on a computer never getting printed
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

robbo333

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Re: flyer design thoughts please
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2018, 05:55:03 pm »
Sent you an email.
Robbo
"Thank you for calling: if you have a 1st floor flat, mid terraced house, lots of dogs, no parking, no side access, or no sense of humour, please press hold!
For all other enquiries, please press1"

paul alan

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Re: flyer design thoughts please
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2018, 07:49:51 pm »
From a proof reading point of view:

  • Pns window cleaning ltd should be PNS Window Cleaning Ltd
  • we're should be were
  • Txt should be Text
  • Fully clean, on time, every time! - not sure what you mean by "Fully clean"

Also why not include a picture of yourself cleaning or with your van.

Sorry if I'm being a bit picky!

I like picky! I dont even mind a picky customer.


I wasn't going to have these printed professionally, intended to do them myself . So wasn't going to bother with photos as they wouldn't come out too well on my printer.


I am reconsidering that now, I would like to have some photos on the flyer so any potential customer can see they wont be dealing with a scruffy crank! But as my van has been in the garage for repairs including new doors, I have had the signwriting re-done and thought I would change the colour scheme with it.

 I have also bought us all new uniforms with the new colour logo on, so I'll wait till I get the van back to do the photos. A guy that works for my brother has some expensive cameras and is pretty handy with them so I'm going to get him to do some photos for the website etc.

paul alan

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Re: flyer design thoughts please
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2018, 07:51:58 pm »
From a proof reading point of view:

  • Pns window cleaning ltd should be PNS Window Cleaning Ltd
  • we're should be were
  • Txt should be Text
  • Fully clean, on time, every time! - not sure what you mean by "Fully clean"

Also why not include a picture of yourself cleaning or with your van.

Sorry if I'm being a bit picky!

I think you're spot on.  I was going to post similar myself.
Some customers are very fussy about correct wording because they regard incorrect spelling and grammar as a sign of being sloppy in other areas.  I know that's unfair but it's how some people see it.
N.B. I'm not referring to forum posts.  This is about someone's very first sight of your business.


I agree about people judging my standards in general, I wasn't very good in English as I hardly attended.

paul alan

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Re: flyer design thoughts please
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2018, 07:53:56 pm »
50% of the available area is not used, if you are going to get a lot printed I would have a professional designer create a full colour  double sided one.

It takes the same amount of time (and cost the same) to deliver a basic leaflet as it does a great one so you might as well give yourself the best chance possible of getting a response .

It’s a myth that you can put too much writing on a leaflet test have shown copy heavy leaflets consistently out perform basic designs , people who want your service will read massive amounts of information and those that are undecided will also want lots of information to convince them to call.

You have a full back side of the leaflet blank, do you offer any other services? Gutter cleaning, conservatory roofs.... etc if not find someone who does and ask them if they want to share a leaflet and go half on the costs

But any leaflet that goes through a houses letterbox is better that a leaflet that stays on a computer never getting printed


I thought simple may be better, sometimes when your bombarded with too much info you just switch off to it.


What kind of price do you pay to have someone design a leaflet for you?

paul alan

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Re: flyer design thoughts please
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2018, 07:54:50 pm »
Sent you an email.
Robbo


Received that mate, looks good. Thanks for taking the time!

Mike Halliday

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Re: flyer design thoughts please
« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2018, 03:27:00 am »
50% of the available area is not used, if you are going to get a lot printed I would have a professional designer create a full colour  double sided one.

It takes the same amount of time (and cost the same) to deliver a basic leaflet as it does a great one so you might as well give yourself the best chance possible of getting a response .

It’s a myth that you can put too much writing on a leaflet test have shown copy heavy leaflets consistently out perform basic designs , people who want your service will read massive amounts of information and those that are undecided will also want lots of information to convince them to call.

You have a full back side of the leaflet blank, do you offer any other services? Gutter cleaning, conservatory roofs.... etc if not find someone who does and ask them if they want to share a leaflet and go half on the costs

But any leaflet that goes through a houses letterbox is better that a leaflet that stays on a computer never getting printed


I thought simple may be better, sometimes when your bombarded with too much info you just switch off to it.


What kind of price do you pay to have someone design a leaflet for you?

People only switch off if they are not interested,  grab their interest and they will read an encyclopaedia. some companies will do a £28 artwork charge if you use them to do the printing. I paid £200 the last time I used a professional to design a folded A4 leaflet but i’ve been using it for over 2 years. If you are going to constantly use the leaflet for years it’s not a high cost to use a pro
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

paul alan

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Re: flyer design thoughts please
« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2018, 07:25:02 am »
50% of the available area is not used, if you are going to get a lot printed I would have a professional designer create a full colour  double sided one.

It takes the same amount of time (and cost the same) to deliver a basic leaflet as it does a great one so you might as well give yourself the best chance possible of getting a response .

It’s a myth that you can put too much writing on a leaflet test have shown copy heavy leaflets consistently out perform basic designs , people who want your service will read massive amounts of information and those that are undecided will also want lots of information to convince them to call.

You have a full back side of the leaflet blank, do you offer any other services? Gutter cleaning, conservatory roofs.... etc if not find someone who does and ask them if they want to share a leaflet and go half on the costs

But any leaflet that goes through a houses letterbox is better that a leaflet that stays on a computer never getting printed


I thought simple may be better, sometimes when your bombarded with too much info you just switch off to it.


What kind of price do you pay to have someone design a leaflet for you?

People only switch off if they are not interested,  grab their interest and they will read an encyclopaedia. some companies will do a £28 artwork charge if you use them to do the printing. I paid £200 the last time I used a professional to design a folded A4 leaflet but i’ve been using it for over 2 years. If you are going to constantly use the leaflet for years it’s not a high cost to use a pro

Thanks Mike, any recommendations please?

Mike Halliday

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Re: flyer design thoughts please
« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2018, 03:45:22 pm »
This guy is my mate so i’m Slightly biased but most of his work is for cleaners so he speaks our lingo and is well priced.

https://www.cheapleaflets.net/latest-work/leaflets-samples-gallery.html


Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

paul alan

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Re: flyer design thoughts please
« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2018, 04:28:29 pm »
This guy is my mate so i’m Slightly biased but most of his work is for cleaners so he speaks our lingo and is well priced.

https://www.cheapleaflets.net/latest-work/leaflets-samples-gallery.html




Thanks mike!

I take it you use this kind of flyer, how effective are they? whats the hit rate per1k?

Mike Halliday

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Re: flyer design thoughts please
« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2018, 05:13:11 pm »
All my new work comes from flyers, I find them incredibly effective but I constantly put them out every week.

My response rate is low but my average job value is quite high so I don’t need lots of response to make a profit,  if my jobs were £35 jobs I would need 10-15 jobs from a 1000 leaflets to make it worthwhile.

Plus my response is slightly misleading as I deliver to big detatched homes and in small villages so I might only deliver 100 leaflets but get 2 jobs but they are really good jobs
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

robbo333

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Re: flyer design thoughts please
« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2018, 06:05:55 pm »
Paul
That leaflet I sent you gets me about 4 enquiries per 1000.
I used a local company who were cheap and reliable to distribute them; 5 or 10 thousand at a time.
I always made a return on my investment.
I'm compacting my round now, so prefer to deliver myself and chose exactly the houses I fancy.
Good luck
"Thank you for calling: if you have a 1st floor flat, mid terraced house, lots of dogs, no parking, no side access, or no sense of humour, please press hold!
For all other enquiries, please press1"

4Seasons

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Re: flyer design thoughts please
« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2018, 06:49:37 pm »
Something about the name and the gaps between the letters makes it look a bit rude.
But the leaflet looks effective, I think expensive looking leaflets can put some people off - they may think 'expensive' or the company may be too big for the 'personal touch'
So i think you have the balance right.
No point saving one letter with txt though.

paul alan

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Re: flyer design thoughts please
« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2018, 07:30:58 pm »
Paul
That leaflet I sent you gets me about 4 enquiries per 1000.
I used a local company who were cheap and reliable to distribute them; 5 or 10 thousand at a time.
I always made a return on my investment.
I'm compacting my round now, so prefer to deliver myself and chose exactly the houses I fancy.
Good luck


4 per 1k I would be happy with. The "letter" I first did before I re-mastered it and presented it here was very similar, in fact I only altered it slightly was put out and tested.


I first put 50 out on a local housing estate, and within 1 month I had 2 calls and both are still on the books. Then I put out 20 on another local estate and had 1 call the same day, first cleaned over a week ago.


So the initial response was good, although I know I shouldn't judge from a small number.


I too will only post these when done through select doors. I will wait and put a picture or two on there like yours as I can see a benefit to that.

Thanks again Robbo.