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Shrek

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How to respond to txt regarding increase
« on: September 01, 2018, 04:09:41 am »
So , I put a few prices up the other week - most have said yeah no worries, one said her husband will do them from now on (£1 increase  ::)roll ) . One said she think about it and let me know and got a reply from one yesterday going from £20 - £25.
Now they had an extension done with massive bi fold doors that wrap around 2 sides of the house and a flat roof with a little glass roof but added . The windows are very hydrophobic and takes shed loads of water , so I underestimated as I didn’t think I’d use as much water . So apologiesed that I’d got the price wrong and said it needs to go up if she’s happy with the service.

Hi shrek, well what a bomb shell ... I do understand that costs go up bit to make such an error in costing the job which you have been doing since we alter the house is quiet a mistake on your behalf and on percentage terms the increase is 25%!!  We are happy with the work you do therefore would like you to continue. Thanks Mrs j

They are nice people, so just wondered how to respond, cheers!

John Mart

Re: How to respond to txt regarding increase
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2018, 06:11:31 am »
Reply with thank you and carry on. Or ignore and carry on.

mufcglen

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Re: How to respond to txt regarding increase
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2018, 06:31:44 am »
Screw that don’t let a customer dictate to you pal, you’ve told them your price it wasn’t a debate!!!
Just reply back saying sorry  unfortunately that’s the price and you don’t haggle, if they’d like to end the service and find somone else that’s fine.
If you do it at knock down price you’ll only kick yourself every time you go round to do it mate even if its only a few quid.

Shrek

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Re: How to respond to txt regarding increase
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2018, 07:30:25 am »
I did give her the options of once every 2 months or once every 3 months which would save her around 50% a year. I do her neighbours for £25 and they’re happy enough

Stoots

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Re: How to respond to txt regarding increase
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2018, 07:42:57 am »
Looks like she has reluctantly agreed to the increase? Unless I'm reading it wrong...


When she says she wants you to continue does she mean at the new price or the old one? Seems a bit unclear.

"Sorry mrs, to be clear..does this mean you want me to continue at the new price of £25 or do you no longer wish have your windows cleaned by us? Apologies again for my error with the initial pricing". Regards shrek


Oliver James

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Re: How to respond to txt regarding increase
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2018, 11:40:30 am »
Firstly, don't respond by text or email, that just causes arguments.

For anything confrontational it needs to be either phone, or face to face.

It sounds like she has reluctantly agreed to the price increase, but this is a grey area.

If you want to contact her then give her some options so you can both find a situation that is win-win for both of you.

Try these:

I can clean the windows all winter at the current price, and then it is £x from the spring.

I can do the work 12 weekly for X amount. Previously you were paying £X for your window cleaning annually. With the new pricing it will decrease to £Y, saving you £Z on your annual window cleaning bill.

Make sure you emphasise the benefits to the customer of your services eg. Quality, reliable window cleaning from a company that you can trust and cares about your home.



Shrek

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Re: How to respond to txt regarding increase
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2018, 11:49:57 am »
Firstly, don't respond by text or email, that just causes arguments.

For anything confrontational it needs to be either phone, or face to face.

It sounds like she has reluctantly agreed to the price increase, but this is a grey area.

If you want to contact her then give her some options so you can both find a situation that is win-win for both of you.

Try these:

I can clean the windows all winter at the current price, and then it is £x from the spring.

I can do the work 12 weekly for X amount. Previously you were paying £X for your window cleaning annually. With the new pricing it will decrease to £Y, saving you £Z on your annual window cleaning bill.

Make sure you emphasise the benefits to the customer of your services eg. Quality, reliable window cleaning from a company that you can trust and cares about your home.

I already offered her 2 other frequencies but she wants me to carry on as normal as far as I can see. I look forward to seeing her Labrador  dog every month who barks at me the whole time I’m at their house   ::)roll
She’s been with me since 2015 , the problem started when I underpriced her house in the 1st place, then with the new bi fold doors and extension, it just took it to a new level

Spruce

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Re: How to respond to txt regarding increase
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2018, 05:23:28 pm »
So , I put a few prices up the other week - most have said yeah no worries, one said her husband will do them from now on (£1 increase  ::)roll ) . One said she think about it and let me know and got a reply from one yesterday going from £20 - £25.
Now they had an extension done with massive bi fold doors that wrap around 2 sides of the house and a flat roof with a little glass roof but added . The windows are very hydrophobic and takes shed loads of water , so I underestimated as I didn’t think I’d use as much water . So apologiesed that I’d got the price wrong and said it needs to go up if she’s happy with the service.

Hi shrek, well what a bomb shell ... I do understand that costs go up bit to make such an error in costing the job which you have been doing since we alter the house is quiet a mistake on your behalf and on percentage terms the increase is 25%!!  We are happy with the work you do therefore would like you to continue. Thanks Mrs j

They are nice people, so just wondered how to respond, cheers!

From her standpoint:
She was expecting a price adjustment but wasn't prepared for that much. The surprise caused her to temporarily loose control over the situation.
By expressing her shock at your inability to quote correctly and getting you to continue allowed her to regain some of that control. You have lost some of your 'power' because you don't know where you stand - you are a bit wobbly on your proverbial feet.

Now what's £5 really worth? In todays money, not much - a cup of Costa coffee and a cookie. But an increase of 25% would be a difficult one to swallow. When the price of gas went up 20% a few years ago and then in smaller annual increments we all just had to cough up as we had no choice. When the price of fuel jumped up we all again had to take it and now we have to continue to take it as the cost of imported goods rises as the £ weakens against the Euro and the US Dollar.

The general populace has no one they can moan to when the price of their weekly shop increases every week, but your customer for once has that person who has cause her 'pain' 'standing' in front of her.

To start window cleaning, we were given some customers that no one wanted to do as the only access to the back is over the washroom roof. We were trad and we soon found out how demoralising that 3 days a month was. The going price for those jobs back then was £7.50 and they were priced at £4.50. After a while we pushed them up to £6.50  with the plan to increase them another £1 the following year. £2 was nothing, but the increase of 45% (seen as most as 50%) was the deal breaker. We lost more than half the jobs we did  and we some of the ones who continued with us were very disgruntled for a while. But they got over it.
We did push those prices up another £1 the following year and lost a few more.

We were in 'competition' with a fellow windie who worked part time for the council. He was charging £5 a house, but I'm sure it was never declared as extra income to the receiver. Some went over to him but he packed in a year or so later as the council offered him a full time job. A couple asked us back but I don't know what happened to the rest.

Just put your head down and get on with it. I wouldn't even bother to respond tbh. You stand the chance of them dumping you in the future so just be prepared for that if it happens. If it doesn't it will blow over in a few months - but it won't be forgotten.

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Shrek

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Re: How to respond to txt regarding increase
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2018, 05:50:48 pm »
Thanks spruce  :)

The Jester of Wibbly

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Re: How to respond to txt regarding increase
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2018, 06:50:25 pm »
Sound like she is just venting but happy to swallow her pride.  At least she has told you how she feels rather than talking behind your back.

Just reply with "thank you for understanding.  Feedback is really important to me."
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Johnny B

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Re: How to respond to txt regarding increase
« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2018, 09:25:43 am »
If it were me, I would probably thank them for being so understanding and when doing the next clean go a little over the top to drive home the point that her continued custom is appreciated

John
Being diplomatic is being able to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip.

robbo333

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Re: How to respond to txt regarding increase
« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2018, 10:23:45 am »
If it were me I would just reply ‘ok thank you’.
The next time you go round, just clean a little something extra, say a garage door, or some low guttering around a porch or something.
I’m sure they would see that as a gesture of goodwill and then you’re the nice guy again. Back to normal, happy days!
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AuRavelling79

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Re: How to respond to txt regarding increase
« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2018, 11:02:19 am »
A few clarifications would help please.

I guess you had a price before the building work occurred. What was it and how long ago was the building work done?

How many times did you clean it after the building work was done at the "too low price" before raising it?

It's a game of three halves!

Shrek

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Re: How to respond to txt regarding increase
« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2018, 11:30:26 am »
A few clarifications would help please.

I guess you had a price before the building work occurred. What was it and how long ago was the building work done?

How many times did you clean it after the building work was done at the "too low price" before raising it?

Ok so it was originally £15 in 2015 , underpriced (should’ve been £20) but carried on anyway as I didn’t want to lose it. Oct 2016 building work was completed so I put it upto £20 so it was still underpriced but thought they’d sack me off if I put it up to £25. Carried on , then they got me there parents £20 house round the corner from them and then I started doing they’re next door neighbours for £25 which is the same size as theirs . So ever since I started it 3 years ago it was underpriced and the extension just magnified the underpricing. Totally my fault , but I had to put it up now or dump

AuRavelling79

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Re: How to respond to txt regarding increase
« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2018, 11:47:39 am »
Well a £5 increase after 2 years isn't ridiculously high but if you have the next door neighbour too then I guess it is only one stop of the van for the pair it's worth keeping.


I'd send this ...

Dear Fiona,

Thanks for your message, I know it seems a bit high to you but I have held it for the last two years despite my error in pricing for which I am sorry and I hope you understand.

Please give my regards to Lord Tightwad Farquaad.

Shrek
It's a game of three halves!

Shrek

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Re: How to respond to txt regarding increase
« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2018, 12:13:07 pm »
Well a £5 increase after 2 years isn't ridiculously high but if you have the next door neighbour too then I guess it is only one stop of the van for the pair it's worth keeping.


I'd send this ...

Dear Fiona,

Thanks for your message, I know it seems a bit high to you but I have held it for the last two years despite my error in pricing for which I am sorry and I hope you understand.

Please give my regards to Lord Tightwad Farquaad.

Shrek

Awesome, always look forward to your response as they do make me chuckle  mr auravelling 👍

Cheers

John Mart

Re: How to respond to txt regarding increase
« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2018, 12:14:57 pm »
I still say just ignore it. Easy to say when you send someone else, but if you think about it, it doesn’t actually have anything for you to respond to or act upon. That said, if I worked alone I might respond with “feel free to get other quotes “.

Shrek

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Re: How to respond to txt regarding increase
« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2018, 12:24:48 pm »
I still say just ignore it. Easy to say when you send someone else, but if you think about it, it doesn’t actually have anything for you to respond to or act upon. That said, if I worked alone I might respond with “feel free to get other quotes “.

I just didn’t want it to be awkward when I get there in a couple of weeks , it’s a good job at £25 as Iv timed all my jobs and I know what’s underpriced now and by how much. Everyone else that’s replied to me saying yeah no problem, I replied thank you very much & see you soon. Whereas this one I feel needs a bit more than thank you very much & see you soon

p1w1

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Re: How to respond to txt regarding increase
« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2018, 12:30:03 pm »
I wouldn't reply or do any extras on the next clean else they will start expecting other stuff..yes do the garage door then next time it will be "oh could just give that bit of facia a quick going over"  and then it will be something else.
If she says anything next time you clean (or even go round and see her) explain to her what you just explained on this forum. If a customer of mine has an issue or complaint i  never deal with it in texts, face to face or at least over the phone is always the way people are very different when talking to them that way.

A few years ago i missed a big window on a customers house by accident (£20 house)..later that evening she left a message on my phone saying what i had done..not happy with the service etc etc and canceled. I still went round the next day to apologize and to  clean the window that i missed even though she had cancelled end result she was happy again apologized to me for being a bit hasty on the phone and all  was good again and i still clean her property now.

nathankaye

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Re: How to respond to txt regarding increase
« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2018, 03:18:06 pm »
Take the positives from the message and ignore the negative.  She said she's happy with your service and second, she's happy for you to continue. So simply address her accordingly by saying that you are pleased she is happy at the quality of your service and thank her for the continuation of said service. Simple!
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