[HampshireWindowCleaning]

Anyone know if I could get away with an 800 litre tank in my SWB Vivaro? Not sure what the payload is on these. Only other kit in the van is wfp stuff, reel, poles, small backpack.

[Spruce]

Anyone know if I could get away with an 800 litre tank in my SWB Vivaro? Not sure what the payload is on these. Only other kit in the van is wfp stuff, reel, poles, small backpack.

Register with Grippa tank and put your van registration number into their payload checker.

[HampshireWindowCleaning]

Thanks for that mate, just registered and checked my payload, 1100kg, so I reckon I would be ok with 800 litre tank

[AuRavelling79]

Thanks for that mate, just registered and checked my payload, 1100kg, so I reckon I would be ok with 800 litre tank

Just about perhaps. But not with two operators though.

[HampshireWindowCleaning]

Nope it's only me, I'm only 10 and a half stone.

[Matt.]

Plenty of room there with 800l tank, I have a trafic van with 650 in and there's plenty of room for more weight..... Also packed out with pressure washing equipment

[HampshireWindowCleaning]

Yep I have a 650 in at the moment but some days that's just not enough water, a couple of first cleans or a couple of glass con roofs on top of my normal workload and I'm running out of water.

[KS Cleaning]

Nope it's only me, I'm only 10 and a half stone.

I wouldn't fill it right up if I was you, the time you add in the weight of yourself, fuel, tank, frame, reel, equipment etc it will be close if you fill right up........and you're not going to go through 800 litres on your own. oops just posted at the same time as your last post, that's a lot of water to go through for one man, you must work a long day!

[Spruce]

Yep I have a 650 in at the moment but some days that's just not enough water, a couple of first cleans or a couple of glass con roofs on top of my normal workload and I'm running out of water.

I wish I had half your energy.

[The Jester of Wibbly]

Probably using too much water then, overkill for one man.  Get an uni-valve and reduce your water flow a bit. 

[Smudger]

800 is too big you will be well over weight

Take your van to a weigh bridge with a full water tank plus your gear and 1/2 tank of fuel and weigh it you’ll be surprised how close you are already to the left mit

Darran

[dazmond]

i bet your not far off the limit with a 650L nevermind a 800L with a 1100 payload.

id look at how you could save a bit of water....do you use a flow controller and uni valve?how many hours are you actually working in a day?i do 5-6 hours "on the glass" a day and find a 500L fine.

if you need extra water for add ons like conny roofs have you thought about getting 20m of extension hose so you can plug into customers outside taps if available?

[Scrimble]

depends which vivaro you have, sl27 or sl29, the latter has a higher payload

[capn sparkle]

depends which vivaro you have, sl27 or sl29, the latter has a higher payload

Yup the 2900 SWB Vivaro has 1249kg payload - mines got a 800ltr Pure Freedom setup installed

[mufcglen]

i swear i saw a national cleaning van with a 1000 litre ibc tank in the back a few days ago and ive had 600 ibc's in the past so know the size difference

[Perfect Windows]

Thanks for that mate, just registered and checked my payload, 1100kg, so I reckon I would be ok with 800 litre tank

800Kg - 800L water
56Kg - Tank - I've based this on an IBC. If you have a proper tank in a cage it'll weigh a great deal more
75Kg - 90L Diesel
100Kg - You
25Kg - Halfords leisure battery

Total 1056Kg.

Leaves 44Kg for all your kit,  pumps, hoses, papers, sweets, fAgs, rubbish, tools,reels, etc

Bit tight.

Vin

[HampshireWindowCleaning]

Thanks for all the feedback, I think I'm probably using too much water, I love a fast flow so I have my controller on full blast all day, but I'm going to turn it down a tad and see if I can make my water go further

[Rayleigh Window Cleaning Services]

That would definitely be a cheaper alternative.

[High-Tower]

You may find an improvement by turning your pump down a little. I like a high flow so run at 80% but if I turn it up to 100% I don’t get a better rinse, just more water bouncing off the glass...

[paul alan]

Think of it this way, it takes a certain amount of water to clean a window.

If it takes say 1 ltr to clean a window and your pumping 3 ltr a minute you only have 20 seconds to the window. Probably not enough time to give a decent scrub. if it takes around twice that, say 40 seconds then you can reduce your flow by 50% to use the same amount of water.


For me personally the sweet spot is around 1.5-2 ltrs a minute on maintenance cleans If you come across something stubborn on the glass or frame then just switch your flow off, flip the pole over and super scraper it off.

Saves your resources, water, time and effort!

I basically work to the speed of the flow, if your windows are almost clean and only takes seconds then you go full flow, if its an 8 weekly job and is going to take a bit more scrubbing then there is no point going full flow, your just wasting water.


Formula :  time spent x water used +clean window. If one goes up the other must come down to get the window clean without wasting resources.