[John Mart]

I find it diffficult to believe that a guy with the savvy and nous to have a window cleaning business with multiple operators and vans, cant see a solution to having to tell his employees that he's having trackers fitted
Guess its just the free, helpful, forum advice he seeks

I’m always happy to learn things here. I pride myself on being a good employer  and having motivated workers. This has the potential to demotivate my longest serving employee.

[Smudger]

I find it diffficult to believe that a guy with the savvy and nous to have a window cleaning business with multiple operators and vans, cant see a solution to having to tell his employees that he's having trackers fitted
Guess its just the free, helpful, forum advice he seeks

I’m always happy to learn things here. I pride myself on being a good employer  and having motivated workers. This has the potential to demotivate my longest serving employee.

if thats all it takes to de motivate them then you have the wrong staff

Darran

[Tom-01]

I find it diffficult to believe that a guy with the savvy and nous to have a window cleaning business with multiple operators and vans, cant see a solution to having to tell his employees that he's having trackers fitted
Guess its just the free, helpful, forum advice he seeks

I’m always happy to learn things here. I pride myself on being a good employer  and having motivated workers. This has the potential to demotivate my longest serving employee.

Why would it demotivate him? If he's your longest serving employee he obviously has nothing to hide. As stated before say that its for insurance purposes and the whole fleet will have trackers. They are your vans, your employees should realise that?

[John Mart]

I find it diffficult to believe that a guy with the savvy and nous to have a window cleaning business with multiple operators and vans, cant see a solution to having to tell his employees that he's having trackers fitted
Guess its just the free, helpful, forum advice he seeks

I’m always happy to learn things here. I pride myself on being a good employer  and having motivated workers. This has the potential to demotivate my longest serving employee.

if thats all it takes to de motivate them then you have the wrong staff

Darran

[John Mart]

I find it diffficult to believe that a guy with the savvy and nous to have a window cleaning business with multiple operators and vans, cant see a solution to having to tell his employees that he's having trackers fitted
Guess its just the free, helpful, forum advice he seeks

I’m always happy to learn things here. I pride myself on being a good employer  and having motivated workers. This has the potential to demotivate my longest serving employee.

Why would it demotivate him? If he's your longest serving employee he obviously has nothing to hide. As stated before say that its for insurance purposes and the whole fleet will have trackers. They are your vans, your employees should realise that?

Perhaps I'm super sensitive, but if it were me, I'd wonder whether I wasn't trusted after nearly three years of no tracking. 

[Slash]

Just grow a pair and say that you are fitting trackers,they are your vans and is none of their business what you want  to do and if they believe you or not.
They shouldn't  be using them for anything else but work anyway,sounds like you are the type that can be taken advantage of hence the "how to  break" issue.
Just do it.

[John Mart]

Just grow a pair and say that you are fitting trackers,they are your vans and is none of their business what you want  to do and if they believe you or not.
They shouldn't  be using them for anything else but work anyway,sounds like you are the type that can be taken advantage of hence the "how to  break" issue.
Just do it.

True.... probably.

[Arnold Palmer]

Perhaps I'm super sensitive, but if it were me, I'd wonder whether I wasn't trusted after nearly three years of no tracking. 

You are overthinking it. I put trackers on 6 trucks when we first started tracking, some of the drivers had been here 10+ years. Nobody cared, why would they? They're my trucks ffs.

If they get upset they've obviously been taking the P.

[John Mart]

Perhaps I'm super sensitive, but if it were me, I'd wonder whether I wasn't trusted after nearly three years of no tracking. 

You are overthinking it. I put trackers on 6 trucks when we first started tracking, some of the drivers had been here 10+ years. Nobody cared, why would they? They're my trucks ffs.

If they get upset they've obviously been taking the P.

Also true.

[Slash]

Some people take advantage doing trips and using to move items for friends and for other people but you are paying the fuel costs and its all wear and tear on your van at the end of the day,too right,fit trackers.

[Smudger]

I find it diffficult to believe that a guy with the savvy and nous to have a window cleaning business with multiple operators and vans, cant see a solution to having to tell his employees that he's having trackers fitted
Guess its just the free, helpful, forum advice he seeks

I’m always happy to learn things here. I pride myself on being a good employer  and having motivated workers. This has the potential to demotivate my longest serving employee.

if thats all it takes to de motivate them then you have the wrong staff

Darran

You think a tracker is really going to effect them?

I know you mentioned that you a “kinda” fitting them because you don’t really trust them, sooo.. your concern is that you do t trust the staff but do t want them knowing you don’t trust them is that correct ?

You maybe putting your own interpretation on the situation it’s just another tool to advance your company just like moving to water fed pole or using sat navs or a computer to do accounts.

Have a look around shops and offices there are security cameras, everywhere do ALL these staff feel they are untrustworthy? I doubt it ( maybe those who are already on the take do because they have something to hide )

Darran

[Slacky]

Just put those tracker stickers on the windshield once they've been fitted.

Job done.

[John Mart]

I find it diffficult to believe that a guy with the savvy and nous to have a window cleaning business with multiple operators and vans, cant see a solution to having to tell his employees that he's having trackers fitted
Guess its just the free, helpful, forum advice he seeks

I’m always happy to learn things here. I pride myself on being a good employer  and having motivated workers. This has the potential to demotivate my longest serving employee.

if thats all it takes to de motivate them then you have the wrong staff

Darran

You think a tracker is really going to effect them?

I know you mentioned that you a “kinda” fitting them because you don’t really trust them, sooo.. your concern is that you do t trust the staff but do t want them knowing you don’t trust them is that correct ?

You maybe putting your own interpretation on the situation it’s just another tool to advance your company just like moving to water fed pole or using sat navs or a computer to do accounts.

Have a look around shops and offices there are security cameras, everywhere do ALL these staff feel they are untrustworthy? I doubt it ( maybe those who are already on the take do because they have something to hide )

Darran

I agree with all of that. I've ordered the system anyway. From Ram Tracking.

Thanks to everyone for their feedback. Once you've been down the road to VAT, employing, trackers etc., it's easy to forget it's all a bit daunting before you get to grips with and in most cases we don't have anyone in the real world with the experience that people on here have.

[cat9921]

Sounds good, ON my migy

[Susan Dean (1stclean)]

Do you pay them for dinner times ? If not don't forget the private button to turn the tracker off while there on dinner

[John Mart]

Do you pay them for dinner times ? If not don't forget the private button to turn the tracker off while there on dinner

Prompted me to Google and apparently also the driver can refuse the tracker. I’ll await my training call from Ramtracker and see what they say.