[Splash & dash]

Thanks mike and Darren I totaly agree with what you are saying but I accept compared to some of the very knowledgeable people on hear I know very little and am very willing to adapt and learn/ use new things but the results we have been getting for years with hypo are instant and very good that’s what my customers want : I have used algo clear and yes it’s good stuff but slow working and the dirt is still on the walls , personally I prefer using it as an after treatment as I have found this works well , but again like you say there are health and safety issues with bio products I was talking to a guy the other day who used to use a lot of bio stuff and he has stoped using it due to a constant sore throat and severe headache s since he’s stoped using it the symptoms have gone away he swore it was the bio causing this , and yes he was using the approved ppe according to the data sheets provided by the manufactures , thanks for your comments it’s greatly appreciated

[Aqua Power Solutions]

Hypo certainly is a great tool to have in your tool box .
Nothing wrong with experimenting with different solutions on different surfaces

This roof was pressure cleaned and softwashed with a hypo mix 5 years ago
The lighter roof tiles only  was then softwashed with a biocide (as an experiment)
As you can see the biocide will keep certain surfaces cleaner for longer than a bleaching product

[Splash & dash]

Hypo certainly is a great tool to have in your tool box .
Nothing wrong with experimenting with different solutions on different surfaces

This roof was pressure cleaned and softwashed with a hypo mix 5 years ago
The lighter roof tiles only  was then softwashed with a biocide
As you can see the biocide will keep certain surfaces cleaner for longer than a bleaching product

Thanks for that we don’t generaly do roofs but lots of k rend walls , the way you did this roof is how we do jobs I give the customer the option of applying bio after the hypo clean to slow down regrowth , that roof looks very good for that time scale , where we live it’s very damp and red green and black algy grow rapidly the red and black seam to eat into the surface and are harder to remove the green is easy to get rid off , we have large numbers of houses on estates that are now around 5-10 years old and looking really bad we are inundated with jobs like the one I posted earlier , this is why Ime intrested in different ways of cleaning them : thanks for your comments

[Mike Halliday]

Just to clarify when we use the term soft washing we are referring to the use of Quat based chemicals, yes?

I have had some amazing results using BAC50 which is the strongest quat solution I can find it’s (i believe) the same as algiclear pro or Benzwash

But I have had to wait up to 8 months to see the dramatic difference, I have seen great results after 2 weeks. It ok saying educate your customer but they don’t want educating, they want their problem solving.

It’s a bit like me telling a chef i’m Hungry and need feeding and he educates me about planting my own vegetables and keeping a few sheep.... so that in 6 months time my problem will be solved.... but i’m Hungry now! 😀😀

[Kev Martin]

Just to clarify when we use the term soft washing we are referring to the use of Quat based chemicals, yes?

I have had some amazing results using BAC50 which is the strongest quat solution I can find it’s (i believe) the same as algiclear pro or Benzwash

But I have had to wait up to 8 months to see the dramatic difference, I have seen great results after 2 weeks. It ok saying educate your customer but they don’t want educating, they want their problem solving.

It’s a bit like me telling a chef i’m Hungry and need feeding and he educates me about planting my own vegetables and keeping a few sheep.... so that in 6 months time my problem will be solved.... but i’m Hungry now! 😀😀

Mike

At the end of the day it is the same with all jobs isn't it?  If you have a warehouse floor that is in a state you can clean it then paint or Resin it but 2 years later it has to be cleared and done again.  If however you invest in it once and grind, densify, polish and seal the floor it is done.  Both methods work but which is best?  Finger in the proverbial Dutch d**e or do it properly.  There will always be those that do it correctly once but there are a lot more who cut corners.  Who is right is down to personal circumstances end of.  It is the same right across the board...... some people do pressure washing with £99 B & Q machine, others spend £3-10K who is right?  I have my opinion but does the £99 man agree?

Kevin

[Splash & dash]

Just to clarify when we use the term soft washing we are referring to the use of Quat based chemicals, yes?

I have had some amazing results using BAC50 which is the strongest quat solution I can find it’s (i believe) the same as algiclear pro or Benzwash

But I have had to wait up to 8 months to see the dramatic difference, I have seen great results after 2 weeks. It ok saying educate your customer but they don’t want educating, they want their problem solving.

It’s a bit like me telling a chef i’m Hungry and need feeding and he educates me about planting my own vegetables and keeping a few sheep.... so that in 6 months time my problem will be solved.... but i’m Hungry now! 😀😀

That’s a good question I refer to softwashing using a hypo mix , but also would use the term SoftWashing for applying bio products too don’t know if that’s right or wrong ? As has been said I think there is a need for different products for different customers , unfortunately most of my customers wouldn’t pay for a treatment that will take months to take effect , they want to see a dirty building today and a clean one tomorrow, I don’t think there is a right or wrong way with this I always give customers the options and explains it to them so far not one has opted for the bio option , however some have asked to have the building sprayed with bio after hypo to slow down re growth is it just me that gets this response from customers or do others experience the same ?

[Aqua Power Solutions]

Mike , I would say that any solution that is applied to a surface that is not requiring pressure to clean can be regarded as softwashing .

Some people would argue  that there is nothing 'SOFT' about spraying bleach everywhere !

Its a matter of interpretation

Ed

[Smudger]

“Soft” I take as any cleaning of walls roofs drives etc where your not using high pressure

From searches etc hypo is extensively used in softwashing ( does not purple rhino co. ) mainly use hypo and Benz blackwash is hypo based

I’ve offered spray and forget type solutions and at less money than a clean/scrub with hypo and they still go for the instant results

I’ve had several customers used it as well on paths and not got a decent result - now it could be that what they bought from b&q is rubbish but the die is cast and the bio cleaners are tainted forever
Darran