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NWH

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Re: Dont think i want these as a customer
« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2018, 03:13:04 pm »
Who cares how much it is it’s a 1 off surely you would only do it if you didn’t have the work,they are a waste of time people just trying it on imo. I don’t know a WCleaner who bothers with em.

John Mart

Re: Dont think i want these as a customer
« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2018, 03:18:17 pm »
I’ve just picked up a one-off.

£6,500.

 2 weeks work. You keep to your regular.  ;D
If NWH works alone, I'll bet he'd pass it up. I would as he wouldn't be able to keep up with his regulars. He may end up a month behind, have to wait months to be paid AND he might cock it up if it's an unusual job.   ;)

SB Cleaning

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Re: Dont think i want these as a customer
« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2018, 03:52:39 pm »
I dont mind doing one offs as long as the price is right and im not driving out of my way ;)

NWH

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Re: Dont think i want these as a customer
« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2018, 04:01:32 pm »
I can’t see the point if you are flat out busy like I say I have enough to be getting on with,I think it’s greed or being unable to say no thanks.

John Mart

Re: Dont think i want these as a customer
« Reply #24 on: April 16, 2018, 04:46:30 pm »
I’ll do them. I probably wouldn’t be interested in a £6.5k one off. It might sound strange but I’m building my business on regular work. There would be no benefit in taking it on as I don’t have that much spare resource without taking someone. I’ll quite often get people say “doesn’t it worry you, employing people. What if the work dries up?” Of course it couldn’t because I only employ people on the basis of my forecasted regular work. We do at least £500 in extras every week too, but I wouldn’t add £24,000 to my forecast based on it and include it in any growth plans.

lal

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Re: Dont think i want these as a customer
« Reply #25 on: April 16, 2018, 05:23:32 pm »

 I do 1 Offs,  every new job i do is priced as a 1 Off, some turn into repeat work, some don't, nothing is guaranteed in this
 life, i certainly can't afford to refuse work on the basis it could be a 1 Off, Moneys Money no matter what way you look
 at it.
Larry

Slacky

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Re: Dont think i want these as a customer
« Reply #26 on: April 16, 2018, 05:27:37 pm »
Who cares how much it is it’s a 1 off surely you would only do it if you didn’t have the work

Not at all.

I have plenty of work, just not all of it is priced at £650 a day. This is.

Thing about this job is that as a result of it Im now selling a wedge of my regular work to be able to accommodate it, so not only will there be a cheque for £6,500 there'll also be a payment for the work Im selling, which'll be somewhere between 3-5K. Win win ;)

NWH

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Re: Dont think i want these as a customer
« Reply #27 on: April 16, 2018, 05:31:30 pm »
There is no point in having or doing a 6.5k one off job if you are already stacked out with good paying work ready to be cleaned. Why would you put off regular paying work. If I was offered a job like the above if I couldn’t sub it out for a free 1500 for doing nothing for me I’d let it go and that’s the truth I wouldn’t put other stuff off for it if it was a one off.

james peters

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Re: Dont think i want these as a customer
« Reply #28 on: April 16, 2018, 05:40:21 pm »
It's all about location convenience etc . I had one today that initially asked for a one off .
I gave my one off price of £35 and then £23 per 8 weeks . . It was accepted . I find just being strait to the point is best . No need to explain ! It is as it is

John Mart

Re: Dont think i want these as a customer
« Reply #29 on: April 16, 2018, 05:56:55 pm »
Who cares how much it is it’s a 1 off surely you would only do it if you didn’t have the work

Not at all.

I have plenty of work, just not all of it is priced at £650 a day. This is.

Thing about this job is that as a result of it Im now selling a wedge of my regular work to be able to accommodate it, so not only will there be a cheque for £6,500 there'll also be a payment for the work Im selling, which'll be somewhere between 3-5K. Win win ;)
Won't that leave you with a hole though?

dazmond

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Re: Dont think i want these as a customer
« Reply #30 on: April 16, 2018, 05:59:53 pm »
i dont know why we end up squabbling about this...we can all do what we want! ;D

i will take on the odd "one off" job if i can fit them in (at a good price).at least the customer is being honest.... :)
price higher/work harder!

Smudger

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Re: Dont think i want these as a customer
« Reply #31 on: April 16, 2018, 06:25:12 pm »
Ahhh, the underlying insults that those business that choose to make space for one off work are somehow scratching a living, desperate for work and are not really Quality cleaners,

The beauty of this forum is you can see there are many ways to have a cleaning business - your  like the local shop insisting that Tesco’s can’t sell tv’s because they are a supermarket for groceries or home delivery’s as it’s not cost effective

Schedules are there and planned (this why I know my workload everyday) to allow one off work to be slotted in - this type of work pays at least 50% over regular work and accounts between 25-35% of work carried out per month  - this is overtime for the guys ( that’s on top of full time hours) 
So it’s win win more per £ job more £ for staff and then while your out there more customers ring in both 1 off and regular 😁

Darran

Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Marc Stock

Re: Dont think i want these as a customer
« Reply #32 on: April 16, 2018, 06:37:54 pm »
Who cares how much it is it’s a 1 off surely you would only do it if you didn’t have the work

Not at all.

I have plenty of work, just not all of it is priced at £650 a day. This is.

Thing about this job is that as a result of it Im now selling a wedge of my regular work to be able to accommodate it, so not only will there be a cheque for £6,500 there'll also be a payment for the work Im selling, which'll be somewhere between 3-5K. Win win ;)

I take it that you have carried out your due dill on this job being such a high value one off clean. 50 percent deposit upfront.

If its a company, i would do a credit check on them too, or at least check them out on companies house. Anyone can promise a cheque, doesnt mean it will get paid. You can write a cheque, and wind a company up in the time it takes to clear.

Seems a bit risky to me. Id want £3000 BACS upfront. And selling off custom to accommodate a one off is also risky, but i guess you know what you want to achieve.

Slacky

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Re: Dont think i want these as a customer
« Reply #33 on: April 16, 2018, 07:27:42 pm »
Who cares how much it is it’s a 1 off surely you would only do it if you didn’t have the work

Not at all.

I have plenty of work, just not all of it is priced at £650 a day. This is.

Thing about this job is that as a result of it Im now selling a wedge of my regular work to be able to accommodate it, so not only will there be a cheque for £6,500 there'll also be a payment for the work Im selling, which'll be somewhere between 3-5K. Win win ;)
Won't that leave you with a hole though?

I understand what you are saying. And you may have a point, but Ive sold similar volumes of work in the past and have never struggled to fill those gaps. Im advertising on google Adwords for other cleaning services we've started offering, enquires are off the scale.

Stoots

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Re: Dont think i want these as a customer
« Reply #34 on: April 16, 2018, 07:39:22 pm »
Ive wasted so much time and money doing "one offs" disguised as a regular clean that someone being up front about it and me charging double would be a change for the books.

But no i dont take one offs if i know about it, whats the point, i only want regular.


John Mart

Re: Dont think i want these as a customer
« Reply #35 on: April 16, 2018, 07:41:11 pm »
Who cares how much it is it’s a 1 off surely you would only do it if you didn’t have the work

Not at all.

I have plenty of work, just not all of it is priced at £650 a day. This is.

Thing about this job is that as a result of it Im now selling a wedge of my regular work to be able to accommodate it, so not only will there be a cheque for £6,500 there'll also be a payment for the work Im selling, which'll be somewhere between 3-5K. Win win ;)
Won't that leave you with a hole though?

I understand what you are saying. And you may have a point, but Ive sold similar volumes of work in the past and have never struggled to fill those gaps. Im advertising on google Adwords for other cleaning services we've started offering, enquires are off the scale.
I like the security of knowing I’ve got the work. I don’t think I’d like the uncertainty, but it sounds like it works well for you.

Johnny B

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Re: Dont think i want these as a customer
« Reply #36 on: April 16, 2018, 08:07:38 pm »
I always assume tbat every new job I get is a one-off. If it turns into a regular; great. If not, it's ok too as I've still earned from it.

As it turns out, if they don't become actual regulars, most of them call me for occasional cleans, which I am happy to do.

John
Being diplomatic is being able to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip.

John Mart

Re: Dont think i want these as a customer
« Reply #37 on: April 16, 2018, 08:18:00 pm »
Ahhh, the underlying insults that those business that choose to make space for one off work are somehow scratching a living, desperate for work and are not really Quality cleaners,

The beauty of this forum is you can see there are many ways to have a cleaning business - your  like the local shop insisting that Tesco’s can’t sell tv’s because they are a supermarket for groceries or home delivery’s as it’s not cost effective

Schedules are there and planned (this why I know my workload everyday) to allow one off work to be slotted in - this type of work pays at least 50% over regular work and accounts between 25-35% of work carried out per month  - this is overtime for the guys ( that’s on top of full time hours) 
So it’s win win more per £ job more £ for staff and then while your out there more customers ring in both 1 off and regular 😁

Darran
I’m not sure there were any underlying insults. Certainly not from me. I just like the security of regular repeat customers. I do one offs, but I wouldn’t undertake a £6.5k job. There would be no benefit as it would just mean (all things being equal) that £6.5k regular domestic wouldn’t get done in the same period.

Smudger

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Re: Dont think i want these as a customer
« Reply #38 on: April 16, 2018, 09:03:38 pm »
Insinuations - was the word I was looking for iPhone decided differently !

John no names mentioned just my interpretation of the wild, widely sweeping statements made on here

Darran

Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

harv deek

Re: Dont think i want these as a customer
« Reply #39 on: April 16, 2018, 09:25:20 pm »
i try to  prolong the initial conver, to find out what it is they really want.   oh course they want the windows cleaned thats a given, but what of the future.   
  another thing i now do is when going to do the 1st clean i say  "im coming monday,have a look at your windows ,give price SEE IF ITS A GO-ER "
     when i get there  any sign of bother ,dog plop garden,a connie "wed like that cleaning every 3 or 4 cleans instead of upstairs windows " "spiders eggs need removing from in by the hinges " or other nonsense

 i say im sorry its not suitable for my ladders  you need one of the water pole guys .  asap i block them on my phone and on facebook  hopefully before they leave a sh/tty review